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Breaking news. the days are getting longer by a minute EVERY day now.

  • 02-01-2017 4:46pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,059 ✭✭✭✭


    I'm just sitting in the kitchen with a nice cup of coffee and cake.

    Looking out the window.... it is quarter to five and it is still bright. (ish)

    I absolutely love the days after 21/22 December (ongoing debate on the actual date lol). when the days get longer by 1 minute per day.

    Happy New Year. We are on the up now.

    The Winter darkness is so much shorter than the Summer light is IMV.

    But anyway. Onwards and upwards.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    There's a grand wee stretch in the evenings alright.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭The Raptor


    It's great isn't it. It's still cold though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Pity that App 'breakingnews' got shut down alright.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Just a minute a day??
    So, there are ~183 days between 21 Dec and 21 June..If the sun sets at 16:25 on 21 Dec, then it is to set at 19:28 on 21 June, right :confused::confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,435 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    I think sunset eh flatlined around December 16th, been slowly going back up again since.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    I love dark evenings so I'm sad that stretch has begun. Nothing I enjoy is enhanced by brighter evenings and it means an increase in antisocial behaviour where I live.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,435 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    snubbleste wrote: »
    Just a minute a day??
    So, there are ~183 days between 21 Dec and 21 June..If the sun sets at 16:25 on 21 Dec, then it is to set at 19:28 on 21 June, right :confused::confused:

    Its can be a minute or 2 everyday.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Its can be a minute or 2 everyday.
    But the OP sez "a minute"


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,393 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Christ - knew New Year's Eve was a second longer, but didn't realise it was part of a wider pattern.....


    :pac:


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    The sunset itself becomes later after around the 12th of December. The mornings become earlier from around the 30th of December. The net daylight duration increases after the 21st of December or whichever day the winter solstice is that year.
    snubbleste wrote: »
    Just a minute a day??
    So, there are ~183 days between 21 Dec and 21 June..If the sun sets at 16:25 on 21 Dec, then it is to set at 19:28 on 21 June, right :confused::confused:

    It's not a linear increase. The net daylight length starts off increasing by just a few seconds everyday and maxes out at over 4 mins a day around March. I think it gradually goes back down to a few seconds a day until the summer solstice. The sunset will be at around 22:00 by 21st of June.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Peregrine wrote: »
    ...
    It's not a linear increase. The net daylight length starts off increasing by just a few seconds everyday and maxes out at over 4 mins a day around March. I think it gradually goes back down to a few seconds a day until the summer solstice.
    But the OP saaaaaaid!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,059 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    snubbleste wrote: »
    But the OP saaaaaaid!

    Relax in your tracks right now love!

    The Weather app ( which to my mind has been SO accurate so far...) Has sunrise a minute later every day now. I HAVE been watching it!

    Does it matter anyway, as long as it is going in the right direction!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭Wesser


    Lovely moon from my window


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    Wesser wrote: »
    Lovely moon from my window

    Sorry about that..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,435 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    snubbleste wrote: »
    But the OP sez "a minute"

    OP be trippin'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,059 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    I think we should count it down now.

    By 31st Jan it will be sunset much later than now. Happy Days!

    Would someone else do the countdown for me please?

    But anyway it's all in the brightness direction!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,059 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    OP be trippin'

    WTF? lol.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    I think we should count it down now.
    By 31st Jan it will be sunset much later than now. Happy Days!
    ..
    Not if you're in the southern hemisphere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,059 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    snubbleste wrote: »
    Not if you're in the southern hemisphere.

    But we are not there. So what's your sunset point in Ireland now?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    snubbleste wrote: »
    But the OP sez "a minute"

    It's roughly 10 minutes per week. Until the hour changes of course.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,059 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    OH what did I start?

    It is getting brighter every day. Enjoy....

    LOL


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    OH what did I start?
    It is getting brighter every day. Enjoy....
    LOL
    That is offensive to the visually impaired!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Yourself isit


    I think sunset eh flatlined around December 16th, been slowly going back up again since.

    Yes. Around Dec 14th.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Yourself isit


    snubbleste wrote: »
    But the OP saaaaaaid!

    The op said it's a minute a day now but that speeds up around the equinox.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Yourself isit


    It's roughly 10 minutes per week. Until the hour changes of course.

    Its about 30 minutes a week in March.

    See here

    https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/ireland/dublin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,576 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    All praise to the sun God.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,059 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    The op said it's a minute a day now but that speeds up around the equinox.

    So when is the Equinox you mention, i.e. when everything speeds up?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Yourself isit


    So when is the Equinox you mention, i.e. when everything speeds up?

    I give up. March 21st.

    I should have said that the difference in the length of day from the previous day increases until the 21 March. Then the difference decreases but the days continue to get longer until the summer solstice. Then it reverses slowly then quickly.

    It's in the link. Above.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    I just greet every dry and bright day as one day less that winter can have. If we keep this up it'll all be over without having started really.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    Its getting brighter in the evenings is it?

    Fcuk sake


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,059 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    I give up

    Ah don't give up. It is just banter. AFTER HOURS after all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Its about 30 minutes a week in March.

    See here

    https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/ireland/dublin

    And perhaps you should look at it again. The stretch in the evening maxs out at 14 minutes per week in March.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,059 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    I give up. March 21st.

    I should have said that the difference in the length of day from the previous day increases until the 21 March. Then the difference decreases but the days continue to get longer until the summer solstice. Then it reverses slowly then quickly.

    It's in the link. Above.

    LOL,

    It is what we see and observe from our own windows really.

    Seems to me that the Winter darkness is so much shorter than the Summer sunlight. But anyway I stand to be corrected on that. But TBH there is much more daylight after the Winter Solstice, so there.

    And it is so much more uplifting than the Winter solstice, if there is such a thing, but you know what I mean, dark days and nights when the clocks go back for ages.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Yourself isit


    And perhaps you should look at it again. The stretch in the evening maxs out at 14 minutes per week in March.

    That's not what we were talking about. You said the days increase by 10 minutes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    That's not what we were talking about. You said the days increase by 10 minutes.

    Who's this we paleface. ;)

    Cross purposes.

    I was replying to comments on the stretch in the evening, not the overall length of day. But no big deal.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Yourself isit


    LOL,

    It is what we see and observe from our own windows really.

    There's a science to this too.
    Seems to me that the Winter darkness is so much shorter than the Summer sunlight. But anyway I stand to be corrected on that. But TBH there is much more daylight after the Winter Solstice, so there.

    And it is so much more uplifting than the Winter solstice, if there is such a thing, but you know what I mean, dark days and nights when the clocks go back for ages.

    Yes there is a reason to think that the days are longer than they seem in summer. Twilight is longer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Yourself isit


    Who's this we paleface. ;)

    Cross purposes.

    I was replying to comments on the stretch in the evening, not the overall length of day. But no big deal.

    Except the stretch in the evenings isn't 10 minutes a week at the moment. It's five.

    I personally wouldn't notice this stretch - except that I did metrology as part of a science degree - until the end of Jan. It does depend on the weather though. Sometime in late Jan or early Feb on a sunny day every year I notice that its bright enough to not turn lights on the bike at 5pm. For a few minutes at least.

    Fun fact. In June and July Ireland never leaves twlight. It's never night time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,059 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    So. Leaving aside the scientific versions is it fair to say that it is great that sunset is one minute (open to debate lol) later every day since the Winter Solstice.

    Well I can see it every day.

    And I love it too. Moreso than the other downwinding to darkness at 4pm at around Halloween anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Except the stretch in the evenings isn't 10 minutes a week at the moment. It's five.

    I personally wouldn't notice this stretch - except that I did metrology as part of a science degree - until the end of Jan. It does depend on the weather though. Sometime in late Jan or early Feb on a sunny day every year I notice that its bright enough to not turn lights on the bike at 5pm. For a few minutes at least.

    Fun fact. In June and July Ireland never leaves twlight. It's never night time.
    Oh sweet Lord, let me out of here.

    2nd Jan 16.19
    9th Jan 16.28


    I'm done. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,895 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Pretty sure there are 24 hours in everyday and that they are not getting longer by a minute each day.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭longshanks


    Have a look @theauldsthretch on Twitter.
    Todays stretch was 12 minutes and 20 seconds apparently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,435 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    Oh sweet Lord, let me out of here.

    2nd Jan 16.19
    9th Jan 16.28


    I'm done. :rolleyes:

    *drops mic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,217 ✭✭✭jiltloop


    Mint Sauce wrote: »
    There's a grand wee stretch in the evenings alright.

    I would downgrade that to a grand wee stretch in the afternoon for the moment I think. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭dd972


    No sh*t OP!? Guess what, tomorrows going to be a Tuesday, welcome to planet Earth. :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 603 ✭✭✭_Jamie_


    The beauty of the inevitable changing of seasons never ceases to fascinate me, year on year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭runnerholic


    Can't we just agree that it's not getting late as early as it was.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    I've a large panoramic convex reflector across the back of the SW facing garden, so when the sun's out it's actually 161.8%(c) more sun for all those extra minutes.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    TBH the brightness in the evenings has more to do with clouds than anything. A cloudless night will give you a good half hour of brightness more.

    It's not just the length of the day. The equation of time is used to tell the how much the day itself shifts during the year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,887 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    TBH the brightness in the evenings has more to do with clouds than anything. A cloudless night will give you a good half hour of brightness more.

    It's not just the length of the day. The equation of time is used to tell the how much the day itself shifts during the year.

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