Returning to Ireland and JSB

Hi there. I have been living and working full time in the UK for over 3 years. My partner now has a job in Ireland (yay!) and we are moving back for it. I hope to find a job quickly but in the mean time I intend to sign on.

I understand from what I have read that I can transfer my PRSI [equivalent] with me by bringing my E104 and U1 forms to Ireland, and should be eligible for JSB.

My question is this: would I be paid the UK rate of JSB (which is absolutely terrible) or would it be the local, Irish rate I would get?

Either way I would be grateful for some extra cash but obviously given how high rents are in Dublin, the local rate would be far more favourable while I am jobseeking and this info would help me plan.

Any advice appreciated. And happy new year.

Hanwellian

The local rate.

infogiver

You can transfer your UK JSB to here as long as you have been on the JSB for at least one month. You will continue to get it here for 3 months.
You wil get it at the UK rate.
Beware. You have to organise all that before you leave the UK, they won't do anything for you here.

infogiver

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/employment/migrant_workers/coming_from_eu_to_work.html
Read this carefully

Thank you both - however I remain confused.

I do not intend to sign on in the UK. I am leaving my job here (end of contract) and coming directly to Ireland within days. I want to sign on for JSB in Ireland, not bring UK benefit with me.

Does anyone know what my entitlement is in this case?

cee_jay

You can transfer your credits here. However to qualify for JSB you will have to have worked at least a week here and paid a contribution for them to count towards your qualification for JSB

Redaing this whole page I seem to qualify.

This last bit at the end:

Contributions you have paid in other member states of the EU/EEA will be added to your Irish contributions. If you are applying for Jobseeker's Benefit and need the contributions paid in another EU/EEA country to help you qualify, then your last contribution must have been in Ireland.

Last contribution? What is that?

Edit: I understand based on the comment above.

cee_jay

cee_jay wrote: »

You can transfer your credits here. However to qualify for JSB you will have to have worked at least a week here and paid a contribution for them to count towards your qualification for JSB

A week in Ireland, ever? Or this year? I worked for many years in Ireland and paid many contributions. Does that count?

cee_jay

That one contribution has to be since your return (after finishing your job in UK)

cee_jay

cee_jay wrote: »

That one contribution has to be since your return (after finishing your job in UK)

That's clearly designed to prevent people who would otherwise be entitled to JSB based on EU contributions from getting it.

Great. We're fcuked so.

Stheno

Mystery Egg wrote: »

That's clearly designed to prevent people who would otherwise be entitled to JSB based on EU contributions from getting it.

Great. We're fcuked so.

You can still apply for JSA but that will be means tested against your ohs income

Stheno

Stheno wrote: »

You can still apply for JSA but that will be means tested against your ohs income

I doubt it will help. His salary is ok but we'll be dropping €1600 monthly on rent so there won't be much leftover. Let's just hope I find a job quickly.

infogiver

Mystery Egg wrote: »

Thank you both - however I remain confused.

I do not intend to sign on in the UK. I am leaving my job here (end of contract) and coming directly to Ireland within days. I want to sign on for JSB in Ireland, not bring UK benefit with me.

Does anyone know what my entitlement is in this case?

As you won't have the required PRSI paid and/or credited here in Irelandin the relevant tax year then you won't have any entitlement to JSB at all.
You can apply for JSA but will be :
A. Having to fulfill the Habitual Residence Condition first ( Google it) and
B. If you jump over that hurdle, means tested against your partners wages and any savings or capital you both have in excess of €20000

infogiver

Mystery Egg wrote: »

I doubt it will help. His salary is ok but we'll be dropping €1600 monthly on rent so there won't be much leftover. Let's just hope I find a job quickly.

Ah you'll get something now no bother, things are a lot better thank God

Thanks all for the advice.

njs030

Is there any way you could stay a few weeks and start the claim over there somehow?

I can't afford to pay a month's rent and not work. JSB is £72 a week here. Rent is £800 a month and I'm the only earner just now.

infogiver

Mystery Egg wrote: »

I can't afford to pay a month's rent and not work. JSB is £72 a week here. Rent is £800 a month and I'm the only earner just now.

Honestly things have picked up a lot here. I don't know what your line of work is but there seems to be a lot going on.
My niece has her masters in science and has got every job she applied for and she has no experience
Likewise yet another niece has her masters in tourism and has just got the first job she applied for and she has no experience either so it's all good

Bray Head

I am sorry for you on this one.

The logic of the system is for unemployed people to seek employment in another EU Member State and not lose their benefit entitlements when doing so. You are moving as a lifestyle choice rather than due to unemployment so the system will not help you out on this one. It would be the same if you were moving the other way.

Bray Head

Bray Head wrote: »

I am sorry for you on this one.

The logic of the system is for unemployed people to seek employment in another EU Member State and not lose their benefit entitlements when doing so. You are moving as a lifestyle choice rather than due to unemployment so the system will not help you out on this one. It would be the same if you were moving the other way.

I appreciate your comments, thanks. To be fair though, neither you, nor the state, know why I am moving home. A job in Ireland for my partner is the thing that is allowing us to move. My job here is ending.

I appreciate the encouragement here. I have started making applications. I'd just hoped to have a few weeks' grace, as I have always paid my PRSI and it would seem that with the ending of my work contract, I would be entitled to claim for a short period. Not so! Better that I know it on this end than find out the hard way in the dole queue.

Bray Head

All the best and don't forget to reclaim your UK tax once you have left - you may be entitled to a refund.
Also get your UK NI contributions transferred in case you need them in future - they will certainly be needed for pension contributions over time.

infogiver

Mystery Egg wrote: »

I appreciate your comments, thanks. To be fair though, neither you, nor the state, know why I am moving home. A job in Ireland for my partner is the thing that is allowing us to move. My job here is ending.

I appreciate the encouragement here. I have started making applications. I'd just hoped to have a few weeks' grace, as I have always paid my PRSI and it would seem that with the ending of my work contract, I would be entitled to claim for a short period. Not so! Better that I know it on this end than find out the hard way in the dole queue.

If you had the PRSI paid or credited here in Ireland in 2015 then you would get it no problem, you've just been gone too long. Are you bringing kids?

No, no kids yet.

infogiver

Mystery Egg wrote: »

No, no kids yet.

Ok.