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SBR2017 - The Table

  • 02-01-2017 10:10am
    #1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Right, as requested, some wanted to move back to a table based format, with simplicity as the stated aim.

    1)So, simple as you like, quote the latest post, remove any commentary, update the table with your new totals, don't mess with formatting or anyone elses data, and repost.

    2)Make sure to quote the latest post, it will be a PITA to rearrange this if data gets lost, won't have the roll back features of the google sheet, but we'll figure it out.

    3)If there are any issues drop me a PM and i'll get things fixed up.

    4)Joe Bloggs has had a good start to the year, but it's useful to have an example entry there for people to copy, once we get some data in I'll remove Joe as i think his tri season is going to be very short this year, he's already PB'd on everything

    No monthly targets with this format, so if you want the old annual targets, they are:
    Bronze targets: Swim 100km/Bike 2000km/Run 800km
    Silver targets: Swim 200km/Bike 4000km/Run 1600km
    Gold targets: Swim 400km/Bike 8000km/Run 3000km

    Best of luck all!!

    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time
    Joe Bloggs|2.1|1:00|125.6|4:45|26.1|4:00
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭Kurt.Godel


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time
    Joe Bloggs|2.1|1:00|125.6|4:45|26.1|4:00
    Kurt Godel|3.05|1:00|75|3:00|-|-
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    Cheers Mossy, thanks for setting this up.

    Every year I debate whether or not its a good idea to join this SBR, as it logs and "rewards" distance. I'm competitive, and Sprint focussed, so junk milage is a concern. However having tracked it the past few years, the lads and lasses racing well- across all distances- have been the ones close to the top of the table. As Racoon Queen said elsewhere, its the extra incentive to get off your arse when someone "overtakes" you on the table, that is the main benefit.

    Best of luck all in 2017!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time
    Joe Bloggs|2.1|1:00|125.6|4:45|26.1|4:00
    Kurt Godel|3.05|1:00|75|3:00|-|-
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    See how long I keep updating for :)
    Back to the pool tomorrow for first time in nearly 2 weeks since stupid xmas opening hours just didn't work for me :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭zico10


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time
    Joe Bloggs|2.1|1:00|125.6|4:45|26.1|4:00
    Kurt Godel|3.05|1:00|75|3:00|-|-
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|2.7|1:00|109.71|4:00|17.37|1:20
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    Seeing as i was one of the ones agitating for this table, it's only manners to join in.

    FWIW; I think the thread should be unstickied. Let it stand on its own merits. If enough people want it, it'll stay on the first page of the forum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 708 ✭✭✭ray o


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time
    Joe Bloggs|2.1|1:00|125.6|4:45|26.1|4:00
    Kurt Godel|3.05|1:00|75|3:00|-|-
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|2.7|1:00|109.71|4:00|17.37|1:20
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
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    I agree with Zico. I think stickies can go unnoticed at the top of the forum. Having it pop up at the top of the recent threads might make more "clickable" so others might pop in for a look and maybe even stay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭EC1000


    ray o wrote: »
    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time
    Joe Bloggs|2.1|1:00|125.6|4:45|26.1|4:00
    Kurt Godel|3.05|1:00|75|3:00|-|-
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|2.7|1:00|109.71|4:00|17.37|1:20
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|-|-|-|-|12|1
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time
    shotgunmcos|0|0:00|0|0:00|10.1|0:59
    Kurt Godel|3.05|1:00|75|3:00|-|-
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|2.7|1:00|109.71|4:00|17.37|1:20
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|-|-|-|-|12|1
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    I'll play or prop up the table! Easily in the worst shape of my life at the moment (Nothing in the last 6 months and weight piled on) but since we have gone back to the original version of the SBR and manual stuff (May the force be with you Mossy!), I'll support it with my little numbers this year.


    And since I missed the Goal by Jan 1 thread. The goal is couch to sub 3 DCM this year. No big multi day races (Back to those in 2018) but some other fun events hopefully. Life has to take priority for a change

    EDIT: Oh and I agree with unsticking it..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭Shell to Run


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time
    shotgunmcos|0|0:00|0|0:00|10.1|0:59
    Kurt Godel|3.05|1:00|75|3:00|-|-
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|2.7|1:00|109.71|4:00|17.37|1:20
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
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    Thanks for organising. Putting my name in but will only update at month end.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭Kurt.Godel


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time
    shotgunmcos|0|0:00|0|0:00|10.1|0:59
    Kurt Godel|3.05|1:00|120|4:45|10.3|0.49
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|2.7|1:00|109.71|4:00|17.37|1:20
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|-|-|-|-|12|1
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭and still ricky villa


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time
    shotgunmcos|0|0:00|0|0:00|10.1|0:59
    Kurt Godel|3.05|1:00|120|4:45|10.3|0.49
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|2.7|1:00|109.71|4:00|17.37|1:20
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|-|-|-|-|12|1
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
    asrv|-|-|-|-|23.09|2:10
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    It'll be a lot of running for the time being. Though I'm already feeling guilty about my lack of turbo time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭EC1000


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time
    shotgunmcos|0|0:00|0|0:00|10.1|0:59
    Kurt Godel|3.05|1:00|120|4:45|10.3|0.49
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|2.7|1:00|109.71|4:00|17.37|1:20
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|-|-|-|-|19.2|1:40
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
    asrv|-|-|-|-|23.09|2:10
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭EC1000


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time
    shotgunmcos|0|0:00|0|0:00|10.1|0:59
    Kurt Godel|3.05|1:00|120|4:45|10.3|0.49
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|2.7|1:00|109.71|4:00|17.37|1:20
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|2.3|1:00|-|-|19.2|1:40
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
    asrv|-|-|-|-|23.09|2:10
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,830 ✭✭✭catweazle


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time
    shotgunmcos|0|0:00|0|0:00|10.1|0:59
    Kurt Godel|3.05|1:00|120|4:45|10.3|0.49
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|2.7|1:00|109.71|4:00|17.37|1:20
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|2.3|1:00|-|-|19.2|1:40
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
    asrv|-|-|-|-|23.09|2:10
    Catweazle|2.4|-|20|-|29|-
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    Ohh I havent done this table format in a long time, i remembered it being easier than this or I am just getting old - give me the google doc anyday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 226 ✭✭c07


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time
    shotgunmcos|0|0:00|0|0:00|10.1|0:59
    Kurt Godel|3.05|1:00|120|4:45|10.3|0.49
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|2.7|1:00|109.71|4:00|17.37|1:20
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|2.3|1:00|-|-|19.2|1:40
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
    asrv|-|-|-|-|23.09|2:10
    Catweazle|2.4|-|20|-|29|-
    c07|-|-|-|-|18.8|2:18
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    I tend to fail miserably in keeping logs. Starting with great intentions and then not logging, even whilst training continues. Will endeavour to keep this updated this year.
    I'm also a super slow runner, hence that's all I've done so far this year.. :eek:
    focussing on improving mostly in that area for 2017


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭RJM85


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time
    shotgunmcos|0|0:00|0|0:00|10.1|0:59
    Kurt Godel|3.05|1:00|120|4:45|10.3|0.49
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|2.7|1:00|109.71|4:00|17.37|1:20
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|2.3|1:00|-|-|19.2|1:40
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
    asrv|-|-|-|-|23.09|2:10
    Catweazle|2.4|-|20|-|29|-
    c07|-|-|-|-|18.8|2:18
    RJM85|6.5|2|50|1.6|30|3
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭EC1000


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time
    shotgunmcos|0|0:00|0|0:00|10.1|0:59
    Kurt Godel|3.05|1:00|120|4:45|10.3|0.49
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|2.7|1:00|109.71|4:00|17.37|1:20
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|2.3|1:00|-|-|29.5|2:30
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
    asrv|-|-|-|-|23.09|2:10
    Catweazle|2.4|-|20|-|29|-
    c07|-|-|-|-|18.8|2:18
    RJM85|6.5|2|50|1.6|30|3
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭zico10


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time
    shotgunmcos|0|0:00|0|0:00|10.1|0:59
    Kurt Godel|3.05|1:00|120|4:45|10.3|0.49
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|9.25|3:30|359.36|12:55|27.94|2:10
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|2.3|1:00|-|-|29.5|2:30
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
    asrv|-|-|-|-|23.09|2:10
    Catweazle|2.4|-|20|-|29|-
    c07|-|-|-|-|18.8|2:18
    RJM85|6.5|2|50|1.6|30|3
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    I'm taking a day off today, but apart from that it's been a busy start to the year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭EC1000


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time
    shotgunmcos|0|0:00|0|0:00|10.1|0:59
    Kurt Godel|3.05|1:00|120|4:45|10.3|0.49
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|9.25|3:30|359.36|12:55|27.94|2:10
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|4.2|2:00|-|-|29.5|2:30
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
    asrv|-|-|-|-|23.09|2:10
    Catweazle|2.4|-|20|-|29|-
    c07|-|-|-|-|18.8|2:18
    RJM85|6.5|2|50|1.6|30|3
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭Kurt.Godel


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time
    shotgunmcos|0|0:00|0|0:00|10.1|0:59
    Kurt Godel|13.25||140||27.3|
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|9.25|3:30|359.36|12:55|27.94|2:10
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|4.2|2:00|-|-|29.5|2:30
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
    asrv|-|-|-|-|23.09|2:10
    Catweazle|2.4|-|20|-|29|-
    c07|-|-|-|-|18.8|2:18
    RJM85|6.5|2|50|1.6|30|3
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭and still ricky villa


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time
    shotgunmcos|0|0:00|0|0:00|10.1|0:59
    Kurt Godel|13.25||140||27.3|
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|9.25|3:30|359.36|12:55|27.94|2:10
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|4.2|2:00|-|-|29.5|2:30
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
    asrv|1|0:33|16.58|0:35|82.64|6:05
    Catweazle|2.4|-|20|-|29|-
    c07|-|-|-|-|18.8|2:18
    RJM85|6.5|2|50|1.6|30|3
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 595 ✭✭✭rooneyjm


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time
    shotgunmcos|0|0:00|0|0:00|10.1|0:59
    Kurt Godel|13.25||140||27.3|
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|9.25|3:30|359.36|12:55|27.94|2:10
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|4.2|2:00|-|-|29.5|2:30
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
    asrv|1|0:33|16.58|0:35|82.64|6:05
    Catweazle|2.4|-|20|-|29|-
    c07|-|-|-|-|18.8|2:18
    RJM85|6.5|2|50|1.6|30|3
    rooneyjm|8.15|3|123|4.5|36|4.5


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 226 ✭✭c07


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time
    shotgunmcos|0|0:00|0|0:00|10.1|0:59
    Kurt Godel|13.25||140||27.3|
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|9.25|3:30|359.36|12:55|27.94|2:10
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|4.2|2:00|-|-|29.5|2:30
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
    asrv|1|0:33|16.58|0:35|82.64|6:05
    Catweazle|2.4|-|20|-|29|-
    c07|-|-|34.6|1:30|43.4|5:19
    RJM85|6.5|2|50|1.6|30|3
    rooneyjm|8.15|3|123|4.5|36|4.5


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭zico10


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time
    shotgunmcos|0|0:00|0|0:00|10.1|0:59
    Kurt Godel|13.25||140||27.3|
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|24.26|8:55|426.86|15:10|85.79|6:25
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|4.2|2:00|-|-|29.5|2:30
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
    asrv|1|0:33|16.58|0:35|82.64|6:05
    Catweazle|2.4|-|20|-|29|-
    c07|-|-|34.6|1:30|43.4|5:19
    RJM85|6.5|2|50|1.6|30|3
    rooneyjm|8.15|3|123|4.5|36|4.5


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭El Caballo


    Kurt.Godel wrote: »

    Cheers Mossy, thanks for setting this up.

    Every year I debate whether or not its a good idea to join this SBR, as it logs and "rewards" distance. I'm competitive, and Sprint focussed, so junk milage is a concern. However having tracked it the past few years, the lads and lasses racing well- across all distances- have been the ones close to the top of the table. As Racoon Queen said elsewhere, its the extra incentive to get off your arse when someone "overtakes" you on the table, that is the main benefit.

    Best of luck all in 2017!

    Maybe not a place to start this debate but what constitutes junk mileage?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 595 ✭✭✭rooneyjm


    Some light reading for you
    https://www.boards.ie/b/thread/2057410407


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time

    Kurt Godel|13.25||140||27.3|
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|24.26|8:55|426.86|15:10|85.79|6:25
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|4.2|2:00|-|-|29.5|2:30
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
    asrv|1|0:33|16.58|0:35|82.64|6:05
    Catweazle|2.4|-|20|-|29|-
    c07|-|-|34.6|1:30|43.4|5:19
    RJM85|6.5|2|50|1.6|30|3
    rooneyjm|8.15|3|123|4.5|36|4.5
    shotgunmcos|||||17.5|1:46


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭El Caballo


    rooneyjm wrote: »

    Personally and I know this is just an opinion, I don't believe there is such a thing for 90% of people. The reason I say that is because the vast majority of people don't ever train to the point where diminishing returns become a major problem imo. Even in events like the sprint triathlons, the major component in performance is aerobic in nature. Someone who hasn't reached that point of finding their personal sweetspot (which is the major majority) will still see major gains from volume at easy and aerobic efforts. Even at easy pace, volume pays dividends because time spent exercising has major benefits to the cells responsible for energy efficiency and in building new and more blood capillaries along with helping stroke volume just to name a few which are all highly relavant even when it comes to very short events lasting not long more than a couple of minutes nevermind events lasting an hour or two or even more.

    It's a rare thing to see someone not doing enough quality but extremely to see someone who is doing enough volume. That's where I disagree with Kurt and why I think these tables are so good, In a perfect world imo, getting in the volume first makes the intensity down the road have a better effect. The stronger you get aerobically, the more intense efforts you your body can recover from.

    Fair enough, the person doing the sprint triathlon won't have the same volume as someone doing an ironman but I think these tables as are supposed to help the community as a whole rather than just one person. Everyone likes to be win but the more people that get involved, the better it will be for the improvement of both the forum and the improvement of the triathletes involved.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭Kurt.Godel


    Junk miles= Distance>intensity, when intensity is the goal of the session.
    El Caballo wrote: »
    Even at easy pace, volume pays dividends because time spent exercising has major benefits to the cells responsible for energy efficiency and in building new and more blood capillaries along with helping stroke volume just to name a few which are all highly relavant even when it comes to very short events lasting not long more than a couple of minutes nevermind events lasting an hour or two or even more.

    I haven't a clue what the above means.
    Volume at easy pace in the pool is rarely productive. Took me a couple of years to figure that out, mainly because I came from a distance running background and figured what worked for one sport should work for another. Volume at easy pace in the pool would be a perfect example of what I'd consider junk miles.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭El Caballo


    Kurt.Godel wrote: »
    Junk miles= Distance>intensity, when intensity is the goal of the session.



    I haven't a clue what the above means.
    Volume at easy pace in the pool is rarely productive. Took me a couple of years to figure that out, mainly because I came from a distance running background and figured what worked for one sport should work for another. Volume at easy pace in the pool would be a perfect example of what I'd consider junk miles.

    I'll be honest, swimming isn't my thing and I know you are fairly well versed in that so I'll bow to your superior knowledge on that.

    I see where you are coming from on the definition of junk mileage but I don't think many people will drop the scheduled intensity of workouts in favour of distance to go higher up the tables. It's my opinion that most people value intensity over volume so I don't see that as being an issue. I think that it is more likely to encourage people to add an extra run, cycle or swim to their week or go for an extra bit of distance on the long ride or run. Basically, make more time for training and get a bit competitive and I don't think that's junk training, it will help.

    I may have picked you up wrong but when I read junk training, I interpretated as you looking at the small negatives that could arise rather than the bigger picture of positive competition as a whole.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭Kurt.Godel


    El Caballo wrote: »
    I may have picked you up wrong but when I read junk training, I interpretated as you looking at the small negatives that could arise rather than the bigger picture of positive competition as a whole.

    I only meant "junk milage" in my own personal context- previous years I'd got carried away with chasing numbers rather than the training program. A personal flaw! I did a run session earlier, main purpose was faster than race pace minute interval, but I extended the out-and-back and ended up doing a 16 min easy cooldown when a 5 minute would have done. I don't think there was much benefit in that extended cooldown and I'd class the extra as junk miles. However, I'm going to the pool tonight (when I'd prefer to skip the session as I'm tired after a busy week) purely because Zico is ahead of me in the swim table. That's a good example of "positive competition"!

    For the record I like the table, think its a great idea, and the more on it the merrier. Are you thinking of joining in yourself?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭zico10


    Kurt.Godel wrote: »
    I'm going to the pool tonight (when I'd prefer to skip the session as I'm tired after a busy week) purely because Zico is ahead of me in the swim table. That's a good example of "positive competition"!

    Better stay in there for 2 hours then, I'm also going to the pool.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭El Caballo


    Kurt.Godel wrote: »
    I only meant "junk milage" in my own personal context- previous years I'd got carried away with chasing numbers rather than the training program. A personal flaw! I did a run session earlier, main purpose was faster than race pace minute interval, but I extended the out-and-back and ended up doing a 16 min easy cooldown when a 5 minute would have done. I don't think there was much benefit in that extended cooldown and I'd class the extra as junk miles. However, I'm going to the pool tonight (when I'd prefer to skip the session as I'm tired after a busy week) purely because Zico is ahead of me in the swim table. That's a good example of "positive competition"!

    For the record I like the table, think its a great idea, and the more on it the merrier. Are you thinking of joining in yourself?

    Fair enough, still think that 11 minutes would suprise you:p

    Nah, I'm not triathlete. I'm an indefinitely injured runner/cyclist with an identity crisis and too much time on his his hands at the minute:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭Kurt.Godel


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time

    Kurt Godel|25.75||240||42.3|
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|24.26|8:55|426.86|15:10|85.79|6:25
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|4.2|2:00|-|-|29.5|2:30
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
    asrv|1|0:33|16.58|0:35|82.64|6:05
    Catweazle|2.4|-|20|-|29|-
    c07|-|-|34.6|1:30|43.4|5:19
    RJM85|6.5|2|50|1.6|30|3
    rooneyjm|8.15|3|123|4.5|36|4.5
    shotgunmcos|||||17.5|1:46


    Just managed an hour zico, but it was a useful technical hour. More useful than sitting on my arse at home anyway!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 595 ✭✭✭rooneyjm


    It's probably not as black and white as junk or not junk. I could have done an easy run this morning before work, picked up a small bit of fitness and helped with losing a bit of weight, so you wouldn't call that junk on the face of it. I choose not to as Friday night swim is a key session for me and swimming is my weakest discipline. If I go to that session tired it's wasted and then you could call the run junk, took me a while to figure that one out.

    Had a reasonably good swim so justified in not running I think. Table or no table everyone has to manage their own training and don't be too concerned what others are doing.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    personally, i don't think anyone on these forums is doing enough mileage to consider anything junk miles. probably exception of enduro


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭zico10


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time

    Kurt Godel|25.75||240||42.3|
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|27.06|9:55|426.86|15:10|85.79|6:25
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|4.2|2:00|-|-|29.5|2:30
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
    asrv|1|0:33|16.58|0:35|82.64|6:05
    Catweazle|2.4|-|20|-|29|-
    c07|-|-|34.6|1:30|43.4|5:19
    RJM85|6.5|2|50|1.6|30|3
    rooneyjm|8.15|3|123|4.5|36|4.5
    shotgunmcos|||||17.5|1:46


    Kurt, I would have held off on updating, but just to encourage you into the water over the weekend I'll update now. I'm not due back in the pool until Monday evening, so plenty of time to pull away.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭and still ricky villa


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time

    Kurt Godel|25.75||240||42.3|
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|27.06|9:55|426.86|15:10|85.79|6:25
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|4.2|2:00|-|-|29.5|2:30
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
    asrv|4.4|2:10|41.44|1:30|164.68|12:20
    Catweazle|2.4|-|20|-|29|-
    c07|-|-|34.6|1:30|43.4|5:19
    RJM85|6.5|2|50|1.6|30|3
    rooneyjm|8.15|3|123|4.5|36|4.5
    shotgunmcos|||||17.5|1:46


    That should be it for the week unless I can convince the wife she needs an early night so I can get an hour on the turbo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 595 ✭✭✭rooneyjm


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time

    Kurt Godel|25.75||240||42.3|
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|27.06|9:55|426.86|15:10|85.79|6:25
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|4.2|2:00|-|-|29.5|2:30
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
    asrv|4.4|2:10|41.44|1:30|164.68|12:20
    Catweazle|2.4|-|20|-|29|-
    c07|-|-|34.6|1:30|43.4|5:19
    RJM85|6.5|2|50|1.6|30|3
    rooneyjm|12.2|5.15|230.2|8.45|77.2|8.05
    shotgunmcos|||||17.5|1:46


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭EC1000


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time

    Kurt Godel|25.75||240||42.3|
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|27.06|9:55|426.86|15:10|85.79|6:25
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|4.2|2:00|-|-|50.6|4:00
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
    asrv|4.4|2:10|41.44|1:30|164.68|12:20
    Catweazle|2.4|-|20|-|29|-
    c07|-|-|34.6|1:30|43.4|5:19
    RJM85|6.5|2|50|1.6|30|3
    rooneyjm|12.2|5.15|230.2|8.45|77.2|8.05
    shotgunmcos|||||17.5|1:46


    Missed all last week due to cold/flu.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time

    Kurt Godel|25.75||240||42.3|
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|27.06|9:55|426.86|15:10|85.79|6:25
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|4.2|2:00|-|-|50.6|4:00
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
    asrv|4.4|2:10|41.44|1:30|164.68|12:20
    Catweazle|2.4|-|20|-|29|-
    c07|-|-|34.6|1:30|43.4|5:19
    RJM85|6.5|2|50|1.6|30|3
    rooneyjm|12.2|5.15|230.2|8.45|77.2|8.05
    shotgunmcos|1.60|0:32|||28.81|2:51


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭Neady83


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time

    Kurt Godel|25.75||240||42.3|
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|27.06|9:55|426.86|15:10|85.79|6:25
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|4.2|2:00|-|-|50.6|4:00
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
    asrv|4.4|2:10|41.44|1:30|164.68|12:20
    Catweazle|2.4|-|20|-|29|-
    c07|-|-|34.6|1:30|43.4|5:19
    RJM85|6.5|2|50|1.6|30|3
    rooneyjm|12.2|5.15|230.2|8.45|77.2|8.05
    shotgunmcos|1.60|0:32|||28.81|2:51
    Neady|-|-|322|11:00|188.7|18:56


    I'm gonna join in the fun but only the BR part. Hope it keeps me motivated after March.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭EC1000


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time

    Kurt Godel|25.75||240||42.3|
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|27.06|9:55|426.86|15:10|85.79|6:25
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|6.3|3:00|-|-|61.8|4:40
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
    asrv|4.4|2:10|41.44|1:30|164.68|12:20
    Catweazle|2.4|-|20|-|29|-
    c07|-|-|34.6|1:30|43.4|5:19
    RJM85|6.5|2|50|1.6|30|3
    rooneyjm|12.2|5.15|230.2|8.45|77.2|8.05
    shotgunmcos|1.60|0:32|||28.81|2:51
    Neady|-|-|322|11:00|188.7|18:56


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭and still ricky villa


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time

    Kurt Godel|25.75||240||42.3|
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|27.06|9:55|426.86|15:10|85.79|6:25
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|6.3|3:00|-|-|61.8|4:40
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
    asrv|7.2|3.27|76|2:45|257.97|19:20
    Catweazle|2.4|-|20|-|29|-
    c07|-|-|34.6|1:30|43.4|5:19
    RJM85|6.5|2|50|1.6|30|3
    rooneyjm|12.2|5.15|230.2|8.45|77.2|8.05
    shotgunmcos|1.60|0:32|||28.81|2:51
    Neady|-|-|322|11:00|188.7|18:56


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭Neady83


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time

    Kurt Godel|25.75||240||42.3|
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|27.06|9:55|426.86|15:10|85.79|6:25
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|6.3|3:00|-|-|61.8|4:40
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
    asrv|7.2|3.27|76|2:45|257.97|19:20
    Catweazle|2.4|-|20|-|29|-
    c07|-|-|34.6|1:30|43.4|5:19
    RJM85|6.5|2|50|1.6|30|3
    rooneyjm|12.2|5.15|230.2|8.45|77.2|8.05
    shotgunmcos|1.60|0:32|||28.81|2:51
    Neady|-|-|390|13:17|232.4|23:27


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭EC1000


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time

    Kurt Godel|25.75||240||42.3|
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|27.06|9:55|426.86|15:10|85.79|6:25
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|8.4|4:00|-|-|75.3|5:40
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
    asrv|7.2|3.27|76|2:45|257.97|19:20
    Catweazle|2.4|-|20|-|29|-
    c07|-|-|34.6|1:30|43.4|5:19
    RJM85|6.5|2|50|1.6|30|3
    rooneyjm|12.2|5.15|230.2|8.45|77.2|8.05
    shotgunmcos|1.60|0:32|||28.81|2:51
    Neady|-|-|390|13:17|232.4|23:27


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭zico10


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time

    Kurt Godel|25.75||240||42.3|
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|41.06|15:00|656.14|22:30|178.65|13:00
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|8.4|4:00|-|-|75.3|5:40
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
    asrv|7.2|3.27|76|2:45|257.97|19:20
    Catweazle|2.4|-|20|-|29|-
    c07|-|-|34.6|1:30|43.4|5:19
    RJM85|6.5|2|50|1.6|30|3
    rooneyjm|12.2|5.15|230.2|8.45|77.2|8.05
    shotgunmcos|1.60|0:32|||28.81|2:51
    Neady|-|-|390|13:17|232.4|23:27


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 595 ✭✭✭rooneyjm


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time

    Kurt Godel|25.75||240||42.3|
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|41.06|15:00|656.14|22:30|178.65|13:00
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|8.4|4:00|-|-|75.3|5:40
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
    asrv|7.2|3.27|76|2:45|257.97|19:20
    Catweazle|2.4|-|20|-|29|-
    c07|-|-|34.6|1:30|43.4|5:19
    RJM85|6.5|2|50|1.6|30|3
    rooneyjm|17.45|7.30|296.2|11.15|111.75|11.0
    shotgunmcos|1.60|0:32|||28.81|2:51
    Neady|-|-|390|13:17|232.4|23:27


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭RJM85


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time

    Kurt Godel|25.75||240||42.3|
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|41.06|15:00|656.14|22:30|178.65|13:00
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|8.4|4:00|-|-|75.3|5:40
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
    asrv|7.2|3.27|76|2:45|257.97|19:20
    Catweazle|2.4|-|20|-|29|-
    c07|-|-|34.6|1:30|43.4|5:19
    RJM85|21.4|6|562|22.5|131|13
    rooneyjm|17.45|7.30|296.2|11.15|111.75|11.0
    shotgunmcos|1.60|0:32|||28.81|2:51
    Neady|-|-|390|13:17|232.4|23:27


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time

    Kurt Godel|25.75||240||42.3|
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|41.06|15:00|656.14|22:30|178.65|13:00
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|8.4|4:00|-|-|75.3|5:40
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
    asrv|7.2|3.27|76|2:45|257.97|19:20
    Catweazle|2.4|-|20|-|29|-
    c07|-|-|34.6|1:30|43.4|5:19
    RJM85|21.4|6|562|22.5|131|13
    rooneyjm|17.45|7.30|296.2|11.15|111.75|11.0
    shotgunmcos|3.40|1:07|-|-|58.43|5:37
    Neady|-|-|390|13:17|232.4|23:27


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭EC1000


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time

    Kurt Godel|25.75||240||42.3|
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|41.06|15:00|656.14|22:30|178.65|13:00
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|8.4|4:00|-|-|99.4|7:40
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
    asrv|7.2|3.27|76|2:45|257.97|19:20
    Catweazle|2.4|-|20|-|29|-
    c07|-|-|34.6|1:30|43.4|5:19
    RJM85|21.4|6|562|22.5|131|13
    rooneyjm|17.45|7.30|296.2|11.15|111.75|11.0
    shotgunmcos|3.40|1:07|-|-|58.43|5:37
    Neady|-|-|390|13:17|232.4|23:27


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭EC1000


    Name|Swim distance (Km)|Swim Time|Bike Distance (Km)|Bike Time|Run distance (Km)|Run Time

    Kurt Godel|25.75||240||42.3|
    RQ|-|-|25|1:00|27|2:30
    Zico|41.06|15:00|656.14|22:30|178.65|13:00
    ray o|4|1:30|-|-|-|-
    EC1000|10.2|5:00|-|-|113.7|8:40
    Shell to Run |-|-|-|-|16|-
    asrv|7.2|3.27|76|2:45|257.97|19:20
    Catweazle|2.4|-|20|-|29|-
    c07|-|-|34.6|1:30|43.4|5:19
    RJM85|21.4|6|562|22.5|131|13
    rooneyjm|17.45|7.30|296.2|11.15|111.75|11.0
    shotgunmcos|3.40|1:07|-|-|58.43|5:37
    Neady|-|-|390|13:17|232.4|23:27


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