Irish motorways - a live story

dan185

My missus is driving from the N4 on ramp of the m50 to the Arklow exit on the M11. Not very often I'm not driving and with my biggest frustration being the middle lane hoggers and undertakers, I'm gonna take note of how many can happen in one hour.

Incident 1 - silver BMW 11 plate merging from ballymount on ramp and straight to right hand lane

dan185

Starting to rain.

Incident 2 - Blue 08 VW Toureg undertaking everyone between Ballymount and Tallaght

dan185

Incident 3
Dirty dark 10Wx Avensis sitting in the right hand lane - both other lanes clear. Varying between 90/100 and tapping the breaks

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

dan185 wrote: »

Starting to rain.

Incident 2 - Blue 08 VW Toureg undertaking everyone between Ballymount and Tallaght

What's wrong with that?

dan185

Incident four

BMW drives up Sandyford exit lane where the m50 splits to 2 lanes, undertaking a line of cars. Merges in front of us with not much space to spare

dan185

Hailey Quaint Tangelo wrote: »

What's wrong with that?

Undertaking those in the middle lane whilst driving on the left?

pablo128

dan185 wrote: »

Starting to rain.

Incident 2 - Blue 08 VW Toureg undertaking everyone between Ballymount and Tallaght

And how was it possible for the toureg to undertake? Because the other moron drivers refuse to use the correct driving lane, unlike toureg guy. Fair play to him. I do the same.

dan185

pablo128 wrote: »

And how was it possible for the toureg to undertake? Because the other moron drivers refuse to use the correct driving lane, unlike toureg guy. Fair play to him. I do the same.

So my missus is driving in the middle lane having over taken a car that had just exited the motorway. Couldn't merge back left because the Toureg was driving faster than she was.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

dan185 wrote: »

Undertaking those in the middle lane whilst driving on the left?

Just passing slower vehicles like that is not undertaking. Undertaking would be leaving the middle to pass on the left and returning to the middle.

OldMrBrennan83

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ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

dan185 wrote: »

So my missus is driving in the middle lane having over taken a car that had just exited the motorway. Couldn't merge back left because the Toureg was driving faster than she was.

Not his fault if he just held his lane and speed.

corglass

pablo128 wrote: »

dan185 wrote: »

Starting to rain.

Incident 2 - Blue 08 VW Toureg undertaking everyone between Ballymount and Tallaght

And how was it possible for the toureg to undertake? Because the other moron drivers refuse to use the correct driving lane, unlike toureg guy. Fair play to him. I do the same.

The Toureg driver knows how to read the road. Good luck to him/her!

I salute the driver. People on here have a fascination that undertaking is worse than all other driving offences. It's not. Middle lane hogging is equally as bad.

I bet the undertaking felt GOOOOD!

pablo128

dan185 wrote: »

So my missus is driving in the middle lane having over taken a car that had just exited the motorway. Couldn't merge back left because the Toureg was driving faster than she was.

And that's your excuse. What about all the other drivers in lane 2 and 3?

pablo128

Patww79 wrote: »

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See Srameens post above yours. Perfectly legal.

OldMrBrennan83

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dan185

Hailey Quaint Tangelo wrote: »

Not his fault if he just held his lane and speed.

It very much is by my understanding of the rules of the road.

It's not even a 'sure someone else is at fault' arguement about middle lane hoggers. How do those in the middle lane merge left if he's driving faster than them?

Incident 5 - Jesus about 4 cars merged straight to the right where the roads join just before Bray. We had to hit the brakes to not hit them.

Neilw

I drive the M50 almost daily, I join and drive in the left lane with cruise control set too 100kph, if I pass people going slower in lane 2 and 3 so be it.

dan185

pablo128 wrote: »

And that's your excuse. What about all the other drivers in lane 2 and 3?

There's **** all on the road tonight, maybe 3 or 4 in front of us at that point. Who's to say they weren't all trying to merge left? (They weren't by the way - we had to over take them)

mattser

corglass wrote: »

The Toureg driver knows how to read the road. Good luck to him/her!

I salute the driver. People on here have a fascination that undertaking is worse than all other driving offences. It's not. Middle lane hogging is equally as bad.

I bet the undertaking felt GOOOOD!

I'll tell you what felt even better. The blue lights coming on behind a similar clown between Blanch and Finglas on the M50 recently. Nearly pi**ed myself when I saw his face.

fg1406

I used to commute in Dublin regularly along the Naas Road and M50 southbound in the mornings and if I'm in the left lane and doing 100km /h and I pass traffic going slower in lanes 2 and 3, that can hardly be illegal? Should I slow down and wave at them to go in front of me? Should I slow down indicate right and cross into lane 3 and overtake the car in lane 2 (if possible?)

Ferrari3600

dan185 wrote: »

Incident 5 - Jesus about 4 cars merged straight to the right where the roads join just before Bray. We had to hit the brakes to not hit them.

"We had to hit the brakes to not hit them."

Why?

magentis

fg1406 wrote: »

I used to commute in Dublin regularly along the Naas Road and M50 southbound in the mornings and if I'm in the left lane and doing 100km /h and I pass traffic going slower in lanes 2 and 3, that can hardly be illegal? Should I slow down and wave at them to go in front of me? Should I slow down indicate right and cross into lane 3 and overtake the car in lane 2 (if possible?)

Sadly you are put in that situation due to morons that drive in lane 2 at 50-80 leading to the 100 and no more morons driving in lane 3 and feeling it is their right to stay there.

magentis

Ferrari3600 wrote: »

"We had to hit the brakes to not hit them."

Why?

Poor anticipation.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

There is no offence of passing on the nearside. You may overtake on the nearside if traffic in the outside lane is moving slower than your lane.

corglass

mattser wrote: »

corglass wrote: »

The Toureg driver knows how to read the road. Good luck to him/her!

I salute the driver. People on here have a fascination that undertaking is worse than all other driving offences. It's not. Middle lane hogging is equally as bad.

I bet the undertaking felt GOOOOD!

I'll tell you what felt even better. The blue lights coming on behind a similar clown between Blanch and Finglas on the M50 recently. Nearly pi**ed myself when I saw his face.

You might want to get that checked

(By the way, how did you see his face?, Were you in the middle lane looking across???? Hmmmm)

magentis

Hailey Quaint Tangelo wrote: »

There is no offence of passing on the nearside. You may overtake on the nearside if traffic in the outside lane is moving slower than your lane.

Sadly not the case.Its an offence to pass on the inside unless you are in bumper to bumper <5kmh traffic,the car to you right is turning immediately right or you are turning immediately left.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

magentis wrote: »

Sadly not the case.Its an offence to pass on the inside unless you are in bumper to bumper <5kmh traffic,the car to you right is turning immediately right or you are turning immediately left.

What statute is that?

magentis

Hailey Quaint Tangelo wrote: »

What statute is that?

What s.i. says its ok to undertake at 100 kmh?

OldMrBrennan83

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ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

magentis wrote: »

What s.i. says its ok to undertake at 100 kmh?

You know rightly the law does not list what is permitted. What statute prohibits passing traffic on the nearside if you are still within the speed limit?

BnB

dan185 wrote: »

My missus is driving from the N4 on ramp of the m50 to the Arklow exit on the M11. Not very often I'm not driving and with my biggest frustration being the middle lane hoggers and undertakers, I'm gonna take note of how many can happen in one hour.

Incident 1 - silver BMW 11 plate merging from ballymount on ramp and straight to right hand lane

Leave down the phone and talk to your wife you sad git.

magentis

Yup.Well aware.But i'm asking under what s.i. undertaking is allowed.When it contradicts the very basics of driving.

corglass

BnB wrote: »

dan185 wrote: »

My missus is driving from the N4 on ramp of the m50 to the Arklow exit on the M11. Not very often I'm not driving and with my biggest frustration being the middle lane hoggers and undertakers, I'm gonna take note of how many can happen in one hour.

Incident 1 - silver BMW 11 plate merging from ballymount on ramp and straight to right hand lane

Leave down the phone and talk to your wife you sad git.

This popcorn show is escalating rather nicely...

mattser

corglass wrote: »

You might want to get that checked

(By the way, how did you see his face?, Were you in the middle lane looking across???? Hmmmm)

Ah no. I was looking straight ahead, as you can't look left or right while driving on a motorway.

SC024

dan185 wrote: »

My missus is driving from the N4 on ramp of the m50 to the Arklow exit on the M11. Not very often I'm not driving and with my biggest frustration being the middle lane hoggers and undertakers, I'm gonna take note of how many can happen in one hour.

Incident 1 - silver BMW 11 plate merging from ballymount on ramp and straight to right hand lane

Next time... Just bring a good book or have a snooze instead lol

magentis

Hailey Quaint Tangelo wrote: »

You know rightly the law does not list what is permitted. What statute prohibits passing traffic on the nearside if you are still within the speed limit?

294/1964

xabi

This is boring, can someone post something stupid so we can tell them they're wrong.

bear1

Op.. in which Lane are you in for this journey?

average_runner

dan185 wrote: »

It very much is by my understanding of the rules of the road.

It's not even a 'sure someone else is at fault' arguement about middle lane hoggers. How do those in the middle lane merge left if he's driving faster than them?

Incident 5 - Jesus about 4 cars merged straight to the right where the roads join just before Bray. We had to hit the brakes to not hit them.

You do know you should move out a lane when cars are merging and also should adjust your speed to allow cars to merge.

average_runner

magentis wrote: »

Sadly not the case.Its an offence to pass on the inside unless you are in bumper to bumper <5kmh traffic,the car to you right is turning immediately right or you are turning immediately left.

No its not. If you maintain your speed and the car in outside Lane slows down, you can undertake

xabi

average_runner wrote: »

You do know you should move out a lane when cars are merging and also should adjust your speed to allow cars to merge.

It courteous to do it but you're under no obligation to move or adjust your speed, its up to the merger to merge.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

magentis wrote: »

294/1964

SUB 19.C States a vehicle may overtake on the left when vehicles in the traffic lane on the driver's right are moving more slowly than the overtaking vehicle. As I said.

average_runner

xabi wrote: »

It courteous to do it but you're under no obligation to move, its up to the merger to merge.

TV add for safe driving has the driver moving out to allow the merge.

magentis

average_runner wrote: »

No its not. If you maintain your speed and the car in outside Lane slows down, you can undertake

Afraid not.
I wish it was the case,but its not.

xabi

average_runner wrote: »

TV add for safe driving has the driver moving out to allow the merge.

He's being courteous.

average_runner

magentis wrote: »

Afraid not.
I wish it was the case,but its not.

Yes it is once you don't switch Lane to do it.

dan185

Jaysus this escalated. Clear to see why there's such a poor level of motorway driving in this country. I do 60K km a year and my favourite part of driving is just after Newry where the number of southern reg cars reduces and people actually know how to use multi-lane roads.

Neilw wrote: »

I drive the M50 almost daily, I join and drive in the left lane with cruise control set too 100kph, if I pass people going slower in lane 2 and 3 so be it.

So let's say I'm in lane 1 driving at 100kph and you're 500 metres behind me. There's a middle lane hogger in lane 2 so I merge behind him and then across to lane 3 to overtake. Once past, I merge left to lane 2 and by the time I'm trying to merge left again I can't get in because you're in lane 1 at the same speed.

I'm driving by the rules of the road and you're breaking them, but it's alright because the lad in the middle's also breaking them?

average_runner

xabi wrote: »

He's being courteous.

They are promoting safe driving. Trying to show idiots how to behave on the road.

xabi

average_runner wrote: »

They are promoting safe driving. Trying to show idiots how to behave on the road.

I agree, but you said you MUST move out to let cars merge. Not the case.

average_runner

dan185 wrote: »

Jaysus this escalated. Clear to see why there's such a poor level of motorway driving in this country. I do 60K km a year and my favourite part of driving is just after Newry where the number of southern reg cars reduces and people actually know how to use multi-lane roads.



So let's say I'm in lane 1 driving at 100kph and you're 500 metres behind me. There's a middle lane hogger in lane 2 so I merge behind him and then across to lane 3 to overtake. Once past, I merge left to lane 2 and by the time I'm trying to merge left again I can't get in because you're in lane 1 at the same speed.

I'm driving by the rules of the road and you're breaking them, but it's alright because the lad in the middle's also breaking them?

Your having a laugh. The north are disgraceful drivers. Especially for speeding

dan185

BnB wrote: »

Leave down the phone and talk to your wife you sad git.

Haha I was in the back with the baby who was between screaming her head off and sleep!