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New Year's on a Different Date?

  • 31-12-2016 8:59pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭


    A bit of a daft question perhaps :D but I'll ask it anyway:

    Would New Year's be all that big a deal if it weren't close to Christmas and so a part of the wider Christmas-New Year holiday?
    i.e. if it were, say, the 1st of March, would it be a major occasion in the year marked by several days holiday from school/work etc, or would it be a relatively low-key affair, a bank holiday perhaps, nothing more?

    Opinions?


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hector Bellend


    Its all like calendars and sh1t


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,433 ✭✭✭sideswipe


    China says yes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hector Bellend


    ulster says no


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Down with that sorta thing


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    if it were, say, the 1st of March

    It was in the Roman calendar until 2000 years ago. At the time, their calendar had ten months from March to December. September, October, November, December — 7, 8, 9, 10. There was no Christmas back then (Christianity either didn't exist or its followers were persecuted at the time) and I'm fairly sure they celebrated New Year.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Careful now


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭judeboy101


    A billion Muslims and a billion chinamen would agree with you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,731 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Any excuse for a piss-up.

    But I would say yes, it would still be a big event, maybe even bigger than now as some people wouldn't be wrecked and broke from Christmas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,201 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Peregrine wrote: »
    It was in the Roman calendar until 2000 years ago. At the time, their calendar had ten months from March to December. September, October, November, December — 7, 8, 9, 10. There was no Christmas back then (Christianity either didn't exist or its followers were persecuted at the time) and I'm fairly sure they celebrated New Year.

    The two months the Romans added were July and August, in honour of Julius Caesar and Augustus Caesar. Their year began on January first, as did ours. The location of the new year is linked to the winter solstice in the northern hemisphere.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    The two months the Romans added were July and August, in honour of Julius Caesar and Augustus Caesar. Their year began on January first, as did ours. The location of the new year is linked to the winter solstice in the northern hemisphere.

    July and August were renamed from existing months — not added. January and February were added to a ten-month calendar. It may have been longer than 2000 years ago if July and August were renamed after that which could have only happened 2000 years ago.

    Edit: https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/roman-calendar.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,415 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    The two months the Romans added were July and August, in honour of Julius Caesar and Augustus Caesar. Their year began on January first, as did ours. The location of the new year is linked to the winter solstice in the northern hemisphere.

    January was named after the god of transition Janus who traditionally had two heads or faces - one looking back to the old year and the other forward to the next.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,159 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Thailands new year is in April...massive....a holiday is a holiday...eg. St Patrick's day


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 617 ✭✭✭Ferrari3600




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭scamalert


    osarusan wrote: »
    Any excuse for a piss-up.

    But I would say yes, it would still be a big event, maybe even bigger than now as some people wouldn't be wrecked and broke from Christmas.
    those who go overhead on spending should be at their own fault,hand made present or good gesture is as good as expensive item,some people are just spoiled in this generation to go into debt when surely a bit more attention and love would achieve the same satisfaction.

    That aside many countries Russian for one and many Asian countries celebrate at different dates which is usually few months past christian date,but that seems to make little impact here,but from what can be seen they put effort into celebrating like many other festivities thus really little difference when new years falls since they have their own traditions but more religious meaning to them then say western countries do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    New Year's on a Different Date?

    How about the 2nd of january :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,627 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    Peregrine wrote: »
    It was in the Roman calendar until 2000 years ago. At the time, their calendar had ten months from March to December. September, October, November, December — 7, 8, 9, 10. There was no Christmas back then (Christianity either didn't exist or its followers were persecuted at the time) and I'm fairly sure they celebrated New Year.

    More relevant for us, new year began on 25th March in the realms of England until the mid 18th century. If seems odd to us now; until about 10 years ago, one relic of this was our tax year beginning on 6 April (which was 25 March plus the 11 days transit from Julian to Gregorian calendar). The UK still has 6 April as beginning of income tax year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,591 ✭✭✭✭OwaynOTT


    Let's go back to a ten month calendar. Sure who likes March and April.


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