Hyundai i30 current model or new generation

Patman1

Considering buying a new petrol Hyundai i30 on a scrappage deal.I would appreciate any opinions regarding whether I should buy the current model or the new generation coming soon.Also any opinions on overall reliability, longevity etc.

Sue Pa Key Pa

Patman1 wrote: »

Considering buying a new petrol Hyundai i30 on a scrappage deal.I would appreciate any opinions regarding whether I should buy the current model or the new generation coming soon.Also any opinions on overall reliability, longevity etc.

I'm not a petrol head, but I love my 161 Hyundai i30. For various reasons, I've had to put 20k kms on it since Feb and it's as tight on the road as the 1st day. Plenty of room and electric & media system very good. I've the 1.4 petrol an overtaking acceleration is OK, but it easily cruises on the motorway at 140 kph, (probably )

colm_mcm

You may not get scrappage when the new model comes. The new one does look to be a decent step forward though.

Atlantic Dawn

I'd get the new model, the previous model will be least desireable at resale and you will have payed full whack for it.

colm_mcm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

and you will have payed full whack for it.

Except you get 5 grand off

Donkeygonads

There is €4,000 scrappage off the new model , earliest delivery is 1st week of Feb ish . The Deluxe model is now the standard version for the new model : Reverse camera, 5" touch screen plus the same spec from old deluxe. I don't believe there are any old model deluxe petrol models available....only diesels. The new petrol is a 1.0 litre - 120hp. Private message me if you want to place an order.

colm_mcm

That's good that they are doing scrappage on the new one.

Atlantic Dawn

colm_mcm wrote: »

Except you get 5 grand off

So 5 grand plus the scrappage or is no scrappage available on the new model? I'm confused.

Donkeygonads

The €5,000 scrappage only applies to old model Diesel versions !

colm_mcm

What's the pricing like for the new model donkeygonads?

OldMrBrennan83

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Donkeygonads

New i30 deluxe 1.0 petrol - on the road price is €22,995. Scrappageis €4,000 pff this price . So, €18,995 will get you a white one. - non metallic. Metallic paint is €575 extra.

listermint

Donkeygonads wrote: »

New i30 deluxe 1.0 petrol - on the road price is €22,995. Scrappageis €4,000 pff this price . So, €18,995 will get you a white one. - non metallic. Metallic paint is €575 extra.

1.0 Petrol in that size car sounds abysmal.

colm_mcm

So about €1k price increase like for like?
Not bad when you consider the patrol engine is more powerful now and you get more spec.
Ditching the classic spec is a definite attempt to shake off the budget buyers.

colm_mcm

listermint wrote: »

1.0 Petrol in that size car sounds abysmal.

120bhp and lots of torque is much better than most 1.4 NA engines.

listermint

colm_mcm wrote: »

120bhp and lots of torque is much better than most 1.4 NA engines.

120! really ??
Is it turbo

Donkeygonads

Thats the way modern petrol engines are made .... they are all turbocharged ! A 1.0 micra from 15 years ago was about 60 hp .... this new 1.0 is 120hp .....same hp a 2.0 petrol made 10 years ago !

Toyotafanboi

listermint wrote: »

1.0 Petrol in that size car sounds abysmal.

I'd say it's fine. It's almost commonplace now for manufacturers to be putting smaller, blown motors into C and D segment cars.

colm_mcm

Donkeygonads wrote: »

Thats the way modern petrol engines are made .... they are all turbocharged ! A 1.0 micra from 15 years ago was about 60 hp .... this new 1.0 is 120hp .....same hp a 2.0 petrol made 10 years ago !

A VW 2.0 petrol maybe.

Donkeygonads

Nissan petrol engines used in Juke, Pulsar and Qashqai 1.2 turbocharged - 115hp !

colm_mcm

Jaysus you're still fresh from the launch day presentation!

pa990

If it's a Hyundai i30 you want, then buy one.

But as someone who had racked up many many miles in i30's & i40's
I would recommend against.

Pure buckets of shiť.

Clutch, gearbox, electrics, suspension, locking mechanism.

And an ABS system that will scare the shiť out of you.

Believe Everything You Hear

Donkeygonads

The new i30 has a significant improvement in quality of fit and finish .... clunk factor when closing door etc More Germanicin its feel ....also a little more room in rear and boot.

colm_mcm

pa990 wrote: »

If it's a Hyundai i30 you want, then buy one.

But as someone who had racked up many many miles in i30's & i40's
I would recommend against.

Pure buckets of shiť.

Clutch, gearbox, electrics, suspension, locking mechanism.

And an ABS system that will scare the shiť out of you.

Believe Everything You Hear

Gard?

Patman1

The new model does seem to be well speced and looks very attractive from the pictures I've seen.I suppose reliability and mechanical issues are an unknown quantity at this stage.
I am also considering the Toyota Auris 1.3 Terra 19265 euro and Nissan Pulsar 1.2 17995 euro prices include scrappage.I don't know anyone who drives the Hyundai i30 so I appreciate the information and comments good and bad.

pa990

Patman1 wrote: »

The new model does seem to be well speced and looks very attractive from the pictures I've seen.I suppose reliability and mechanical issues are an unknown quantity at this stage.
I am also considering the Toyota Auris 1.3 Terra 19265 euro and Nissan Pulsar 1.2 17995 euro prices include scrappage.I don't know anyone who drives the Hyundai i30 so I appreciate the information and comments good and bad.

If you're not planning on doing high mileage, and changing it in 3yrs, then you'll probably be fine with an i30.

But it's not for me, I have serious concerns for it's reliability safety wise.

Just remember, it takes years for car manufacturers to admit that there are faults.
One example is opels/Vauxhalls catching fire

bazz26

Toyota Auris in Terra spec is depressing.

OP did you look at the new Renault Megane? Even the base 1.2 litre Expression comes with cruise control. RRP is 19,490 and 130bhp. 5 year warranty too.

Patman1

pa990 wrote: »

Patman1 wrote: »

The new model does seem to be well speced and looks very attractive from the pictures I've seen.I suppose reliability and mechanical issues are an unknown quantity at this stage.
I am also considering the Toyota Auris 1.3 Terra 19265 euro and Nissan Pulsar 1.2 17995 euro prices include scrappage.I don't know anyone who drives the Hyundai i30 so I appreciate the information and comments good and bad.

If you're not planning on doing high mileage, and changing it in 3yrs, then you'll probably be fine with an i30.

But it's not for me, I have serious concerns for it's reliability safety wise.

Just remember, it takes years for car manufacturers to admit that there are faults.
One example is opels/Vauxhalls catching fire

Now retired,so high milage is unlikely.I would hold on to it for as long as possible,so reliability would be paramount

colm_mcm

There is the argument that the 1.4 non turbo is around nearly 10 years and is proven to be reliable. The new engine is much more complex and unproven.

Patman1

bazz26 wrote: »

Toyota Auris in Terra spec is depressing.

OP did you look at the new Renault Megane? Even the base 1.2 litre Expression comes with cruise control. RRP is 19,490 and 130bhp. 5 year warranty too.

Thanks for that,No I haven't looked at the Renault but I will now ,sounds good and warranty is great.

Skommando

pa990 wrote: »

But it's not for me, I have serious concerns for it's reliability safety wise.

on what grounds ?

Patman1

colm_mcm wrote: »

There is the argument that the 1.4 non turbo is around nearly 10 years and is proven to be reliable. The new engine is much more complex and unproven.

That's a fact for sure.I guess the buyer takes the risk beyond the warranty period

JohnBoy26

Patman1 wrote: »

The new model does seem to be well speced and looks very attractive from the pictures I've seen.I suppose reliability and mechanical issues are an unknown quantity at this stage.
I am also considering the Toyota Auris 1.3 Terra 19265 euro and Nissan Pulsar 1.2 17995 euro prices include scrappage.I don't know anyone who drives the Hyundai i30 so I appreciate the information and comments good and bad.

Have a look at the facelift corolla if you are considering an auris. It's a better looking car than the auris imo but both are better to drive than the i30 and I'd put money on them being more reliable too. The 1.33 dual vvti is a well proven engine

Donkeygonads

Dont worry , any issues with a new engine will be well ironed out within 5 years - warranty term. Renault's dont wear miles great which reflects in resale values plus the electric's is their achilles heel.

colm_mcm

The last model Megane was a great car.

Skommando

Patman1 wrote: »

Considering buying a new petrol Hyundai i30 on a scrappage deal.I would appreciate any opinions regarding whether I should buy the current model or the new generation coming soon.Also any opinions on overall reliability, longevity etc.

No one knows the reliability of any new model. Hyundai warranties are now better than most though, and their models/quality in recent years have been as reliable as any of the other mainstream manufactures, and they have gobbled up a sizable market share in recent years compared to what they had (when they were shyte). People have been moving to them in recent years, and their used values are now holding well compared to years ago. I would never have bought a hyundai years ago, but would have no qualms buying one now if I liked the car.

Best thing to do is take a few comparable models on a test drive, and then compare like with like in terms of warranty, price, spec. Every car is a compromise in some area. New/current models do tend to hold their value better than the older models.

Patman1

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Patman1 wrote: »

The new model does seem to be well speced and looks very attractive from the pictures I've seen.I suppose reliability and mechanical issues are an unknown quantity at this stage.
I am also considering the Toyota Auris 1.3 Terra 19265 euro and Nissan Pulsar 1.2 17995 euro prices include scrappage.I don't know anyone who drives the Hyundai i30 so I appreciate the information and comments good and bad.

Have a look at the facelift corolla if you are considering an auris. It's a better looking car than the auris imo but both are better to drive than the i30 and I'd put money on them being more reliable too. The 1.33 dual vvti is a well proven engine

Thanks,The Corolla and Auris are priced the same I think . I've generally gone with hatch backs for their versatility but I will check out the Corolla . Toyota definitely have a reputation for being reliable but a bit dull.Having said that I prefer dull reliability over exciting unreliability any day.

bazz26

Donkeygonads wrote: »

Dont worry , any issues with a new engine will be well ironed out within 5 years - warranty term. Renault's dont wear miles great which reflects in resale values plus the electric's is their achilles heel.

Your info is about 7 years out of date. Last generation Megane/Fluence are nearly as reliable as anything else out there in that class.

JohnBoy26

Patman1 wrote: »

Thanks,The Corolla and Auris are priced the same I think . I've generally gone with hatch backs for their versatility but I will check out the Corolla . Toyota definitely have a reputation for being reliable but a bit dull.Having said that I prefer dull reliability over exciting unreliability any day.

It's all comes down to personal preference really. I just find the corolla better looking, especially the facelift.

At least these are comfortable cars to be in and they are pleasant to drive even if a bit dull(most cars in this class are dull anyway). The hyundai is also dull but is also not very comfortable in my experience.

pa990

Skommando wrote: »

on what grounds ?

The ABS system. I've had incidents where it has failed.
Thankfully it only happened at low speeds.

And I know of others who have had similar experiences.

Toyotafanboi

pa990 wrote: »

The ABS system. I've had incidents where it has failed.
Thankfully it only happened at low speeds.

And I know of others who have had similar experiences.

Could happen to any car really. Hardy a Hyundai excusive.

JohnBoy26

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Could happen to any car really. Hardy a Hyundai excusive.

They had problems with the electric power steering too on the earlier models with regards to the moose test.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrPxXLj_7sI

.G.

How do these long term warranties work then? Is it dependent on having a service history with the dealer?

Toyotafanboi

superg wrote: »

How do these long term warranties work then? Is it dependent on having a service history with the dealer?

Hyundai service intervals are 30k 24mt, so theoretically you will only have to do 2 services inside your 5 year warranty if you dont do a huge mileage.

Any manufacturer warranty is service history dependent but it doesn't have to be main dealer.

AMKC

@ OP What about a Peugeot 308 they come with a 5 year warranty or a Ford Focus and Fords come with 7 year warrantys now which is really good. The Focus is a lovely car.

Toyotafanboi

Focus is 7 years or 120k which is actually fairly ****. Hyundais is 5 year unlimited kms.

bazz26

Focus is getting on in age too, current model has being around nearly 6 years now.

Toyotafanboi

Focus is nice ish to be in, the in laws have one on order for 171, titanium spec and doesn't even have auto lights. The spec below titanium was shocking basic.

Skommando

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

They had problems with the electric power steering too on the earlier models with regards to the moose test.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrPxXLj_7sI

Toyota and VAG have had plenty of failures and recalls in recent years as well

Skommando

AMKC wrote: »

@ OP What about a Peugeot 308 they come with a 5 year warranty or a Ford Focus and Fords come with 7 year warrantys now which is really good. The Focus is a lovely car.

When comparing warranties you have to compare a lot more than just the number of years. Some provide very different levels of cover and mileage.
e.g. For a while Vauxhall dealers in the UK and NI used to offer a lifetime warranty, but it was only up to 100k miles, and it was non transferable.

colm_mcm

Vauxhall went back to a 3 year 60,000 mile warranty 2 years ago. The lifetime warranty only worked for the first owner.