BE trailer test

Gilroy

Had test lined up for today with jeep and trailer. Got to test center after spending 85 on test and 200 on 3 lessons and 50 on learner permit plus diesel. Probably near 500.

Passed the oral and then the inspector checked my trailer lights.... they started flashing everywhere. Couldn't take me out and now have to repeat it. Put it down as faulting light's. Bad luck for me big time. Such a waste of time and money.

I'd say wire in plug will check out tomorrow. So annoyed now.

Oh and you have to have crvt disc in window. U can't have cert for testing jeep, u need the disc

Muckit

You could have a bad earth on the plug of jeep. That usually gets your trailer lights doing funny things.

Gilroy

Muckit wrote: »

You could have a bad earth on the plug of jeep. That usually gets your trailer lights doing funny things.

Will check it out. Bad earth somewhere. Strange because things start to go weird when indicators are turned on

Muckit

Don't worry about the test. These things happen. Best of luck next time

_Brian

Spray of wd40 is a good job in the light socket.

Gilroy

Found problem, junction box needed replacement and all white earth connections redone

mengele

Gilroy wrote: »

Had test lined up for today with jeep and trailer. Got to test center after spending 85 on test and 200 on 3 lessons and 50 on learner permit plus diesel. Probably near 500.

Passed the oral and then the inspector checked my trailer lights.... they started flashing everywhere. Couldn't take me out and now have to repeat it. Put it down as faulting light's. Bad luck for me big time. Such a waste of time and money.

I'd say wire in plug will check out tomorrow. So annoyed now.

Oh and you have to have crvt disc in window. U can't have cert for testing jeep, u need the disc

How long did you have to wait to do the test after booking it? Do you need to have items in the trailer or just empty? Must you do any specific things during the test?

davidk1394

mengele wrote: »

How long did you have to wait to do the test after booking it? Do you need to have items in the trailer or just empty? Must you do any specific things during the test?

Trailer is empty during the test. It's the same as a normal driving test so backing, progress, watching your mirrors and that

Grueller

davidk1394 wrote: »

Trailer is empty during the test. It's the same as a normal driving test so backing, progress, watching your mirrors and that

I did it two years ago and had to have 40 iirc 4" blocks in the trailer. Reverse around a corner, you have the option of right or left hand. No 3 point turn. Pretty much as David says.

davidk1394

Grueller wrote: »

I did it two years ago and had to have 40 iirc 4" blocks in the trailer. Reverse around a corner, you have the option of right or left hand. No 3 point turn. Pretty much as David says.

A friend did it a month ago with a horse box and it was empty. Would I be better off doing the rigid licence I wonder.

alps

davidk1394 wrote: »

A friend did it a month ago with a horse box and it was empty. Would I be better off doing the rigid licence I wonder.

Will a rigid licence qualify you to pull a trailer?

Night Nav

davidk1394 said:
A friend did it a month ago with a horse box and it was empty. Would I be better off doing the rigid licence I wonder.

A rigid truck won't get the trailer license but the artic license will.......Tried that one years ago

Grueller

Night Nav wrote: »

davidk1394 said:
A friend did it a month ago with a horse box and it was empty. Would I be better off doing the rigid licence I wonder.

A rigid truck won't get the trailer license but the artic license will.......Tried that one years ago

Or a rigid and drag

Grueller

davidk1394 wrote: »

A friend did it a month ago with a horse box and it was empty. Would I be better off doing the rigid licence I wonder.

Must have changed so. I used a 12 x 6 cow box and needed the blocks at the time

Muckit

Gilroy wrote: »

Found problem, junction box needed replacement and all white earth connections redone

How old is the trailer as a matter of interest? Wouldn't have expected wiring on trailer to be faulty? An IW with j box on the side? Were wires rusted? Too much powerwasher!

lakill Farm

Grueller wrote: »

Must have changed so. I used a 12 x 6 cow box and needed the blocks at the time

I did my testin May and hired the driving instructors box trailer for lessons and test. He has 40 x 4inch blocks on the floor of the trailer build in tidy

Saved me horsing blocks in and out of the cattle trailer here every lesson for the sake of €10 per lesson

Grueller

lakill Farm wrote: »

I did my testin May and hired the driving instructors box trailer for lessons and test. He has 40 x 4inch blocks on the floor of the trailer build in tidy

Saved me horsing blocks in and out of the cattle trailer here every lesson for the sake of €10 per lesson

I stacked them on a pallet an lifted them in and out with the pallet forks.

Farrell

Grueller wrote: »

Or a rigid and drag

Artic would be handier

raypallas

Farrell wrote:

Artic would be handier

Either or you are still talking serious money to get them done.

Farrell

raypallas wrote: »

Either or you are still talking serious money to get them done.

Does the BE not have a weight limit?
Also have been told (Pub) pulling a excavator with a tractor needs a ce license

Grueller

Farrell wrote: »

Does the BE not have a weight limit?
Also have been told (Pub) pulling a excavator with a tractor needs a ce license

Pub talk. It's all done on weights.

Western Pomise

Gilroy wrote: »

Had test lined up for today with jeep and trailer. Got to test center after spending 85 on test and 200 on 3 lessons and 50 on learner permit plus diesel. Probably near 500.

Passed the oral and then the inspector checked my trailer lights.... they started flashing everywhere. Couldn't take me out and now have to repeat it. Put it down as faulting light's. Bad luck for me big time. Such a waste of time and money.

I'd say wire in plug will check out tomorrow. So annoyed now.

Oh and you have to have crvt disc in window. U can't have cert for testing jeep, u need the disc

What is the 'crvt' disc?

Grueller

Western Pomise wrote: »

What is the 'crvt' disc?

DOE disc by its new name

Melodeon

Western Pomise wrote: »

What is the 'crvt' disc?

CVRT = Commercial Vehicle Roadworthiness Test:
http://www.cvrt.ie

Gilroy

Muckit wrote: »

How old is the trailer as a matter of interest? Wouldn't have expected wiring on trailer to be faulty? An IW with j box on the side? Were wires rusted? Too much powerwasher!

Yes connection box on side. Weather got in and corosion set in on connections.

Gilroy

Passed my test...... yeeee haaaa. It was tough enough but reversed it around that corner no prob's.

All seriousness it was the biggest waste of money ever spent to get that BE added to my license. But you need it incase you have accident or pulled over by garda.

Thrilled to pass and now have it. Artic next .... NOT

patsy_mccabe

Feck, must get mine done.
Will a small trailer do, or does it have to be a big twin axle type?
Would a builders trailer do?
Why does it need to have the weight in it?

Gilroy

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Feck, must get mine done.
Will a small trailer do, or does it have to be a big twin axle type?
Would a builders trailer do?
Why does it need to have the weight in it?

Box trailer and have 30 4 inch solid blocks in it for weight.

Ifor williams will do the job

Pkiernan

I thought that the BE license for farmers was modified slightly so that 12 year olds were tested pulling 14 tonne trailers at high speed through small villages at night using 400 hp tractors????? Additional points awarded for having no lights on either vehicle.....
Follow up test involves dawdling along in a 97 Pajero towing 30 head of cattle in the right lane of the motorway. ..Bonus points for having hand written paper number plate taped to rear.

;-)

Gilroy

Pkiernan wrote: »

I thought that the BE license for farmers was modified slightly so that 12 year olds were tested pulling 14 tonne trailers at high speed through small villages at night using 400 hp tractors????? Additional points awarded for having no lights on either vehicle.....
Follow up test involves dawdling along in a 97 Pajero towing 30 head of cattle in the right lane of the motorway. ..Bonus points for having hand written paper number plate taped to rear.

;-)

Haha so true

Western Pomise

Grueller wrote: »

DOE disc by its new name

So is that the NCT disc?

Never wrestle with pigs

I have a hr licence. I thought this covered the trailer licence?

Gilroy

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

I have a hr licence. I thought this covered the trailer licence?

Look at your license as see if car and trailer is stamped with date.

Never wrestle with pigs

Gilroy wrote: »

Look at your license as see if car and trailer is stamped with date.

I done it before all that came out.

parishsavings

Farrell wrote: »

Does the BE not have a weight limit?
Also have been told (Pub) pulling a excavator with a tractor needs a ce license

BE towing weight limit is 3500kg.

If you already have a BE licence by default there is no weight limit.
A person with BE by default will have a code 79.06 on a new licence which means Maximum authorised weight of trailer can exceed 3500kg

Grueller

parishsavings wrote: »

BE towing weight limit is 3500kg.

If you already have a BE licence by default there is no weight limit.
A person with BE by default will have a code 79.06 on a new licence which means Maximum authorised weight of trailer can exceed 3500kg

Realistically makes little difference as I know of no car/jeep trailer with a hitch rated above 3500kg. Very few jeeps with tow ratings of over 3500kg either.

alps

Grueller wrote: »

Realistically makes little difference as I know of no car/jeep trailer with a hitch rated above 3500kg. Very few jeeps with tow ratings of over 3500kg either.

Op may be referring that the combined weight of the trailer and towing vehicle is 3500kg

rangler1

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

I done it before all that came out.

I done it long ago as well and my license has the car and trailer is stamped and dated.....your license should have all your classes specified if you got it in the last ten years
Is heavy rigid an english license, i never heard of it here.

djmc

Its a bit complected but you need to know what your car or jeep is rated to carry what the trailer
is rated to carry and what your hitch is rated to carry and then what your licence allows you to carry to work it all out.
Your b licence doesnt limit you to just towing 750kgs and it might even be possable to tow as much weight with a b licence as a be licence depending what you are driving.
A B licence doesnt limit you to a single axel trailer either.
A w licence has weight limits too but there is no such thing as a we licence.

Clear as mud.

Never wrestle with pigs

rangler1 wrote: »

I done it long ago as well and my license has the car and trailer is stamped and dated.....your license should have all your classes specified if you got it in the last ten years
Is heavy rigid an english license, i never heard of it here.

It's Australian. Got it about eight years ago. Its for a vehicle that has 3 or more axles and a gross vehicle mass greater than 8 tonnes. Surely that will let me pull a cow box or is the country gone to the dogs all together?

Grueller

alps wrote: »

Op may be referring that the combined weight of the trailer and towing vehicle is 3500kg

No. Can tow up to 3500kg including the weight of the trailer on the current incarnation of the BE.

Grueller

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

It's Australian. Got it about eight years ago. Its for a vehicle that has 3 or more axles and a gross vehicle mass greater than 8 tonnes. Surely that will let me pull a cow box or is the country gone to the dogs all together?

If it is for a rigid type vehicle it won't unfortunately. It will have to be an articulated vehicle licence.

rangler1

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

It's Australian. Got it about eight years ago. Its for a vehicle that has 3 or more axles and a gross vehicle mass greater than 8 tonnes. Surely that will let me pull a cow box or is the country gone to the dogs all together?

A neighbour that drives a readymix lorry has to do the trailer test, so the country is going to dogs,
It's your insurance you should be worrying about if you own property, you should check with your broker, most won't cover you if a trailer isn't specified on your license.

parishsavings

djmc wrote: »

Its a bit complected but you need to know what your car or jeep is rated to carry what the trailer
is rated to carry and what your hitch is rated to carry and then what your licence allows you to carry to work it all out.
Your b licence doesnt limit you to just towing 750kgs and it might even be possable to tow as much weight with a b licence as a be licence depending what you are driving.
A B licence doesnt limit you to a single axel trailer either.
A w licence has weight limits too but there is no such thing as a we licence.

Clear as mud.

What are the weight limits for a W licence? Never heard of any!

Bigbird1

Is this licence required for a tractor pulling a trailer?

djmc

parishsavings wrote: »

What are the weight limits for a W licence? Never heard of any!

It's more of weight limits on the tractor pulling depends on tractor weight and if there are brakes on trailer.
The new rules came in the start of 2016 and are on RSA website.
Eg. I think the max a small tractor can pull is around 5 ton with an unbraked trailor

http://www.rsa.ie/en/RSA/Your-Vehicle/Vehicle-Standards/Agricultural-Vehicles/Weights-and-Dimensions/

djmc

Bigbird1 wrote: »

Is this licence required for a tractor pulling a trailer?

W is the license for an agricultural vehicle it covers tractors loaders JCB diggers etc.
It also covers agricultural trailers.

mengele

so an empty double axle trailer will do now. No need for the blocks? Is it ok to tow the trailer with a car (once weights are ok) or does it need to be a jeep?

Grueller

mengele wrote: »

so an empty double axle trailer will do now. No need for the blocks? Is it ok to tow the trailer with a car (once weights are ok) or does it need to be a jeep?

Must be a box type body to block view from the rear view mirror.

9935452

mengele wrote: »

so an empty double axle trailer will do now. No need for the blocks? Is it ok to tow the trailer with a car (once weights are ok) or does it need to be a jeep?

If you go onto the rsa website they say you need 30 4 Inch blocks.
I did the test 2 years ago and the tester checked for the blocks.
I did the test with a jeep and cattle box.
For reversing it's handier with a jeep because it's got bigger mirrors. You could also select the low box of needed.
The car will probably have a better lock though.