HRI

mrcheez

I'm getting work done which will bring me past the minimum required expenditure to qualify for HRI (Home Renovation Incentive), but I'd also like to include work I got done by other builders.

The problem is that I'm having trouble getting in contact with them.

Can I register their details myself on ROS to avail of the 13.5% refund on the services they provided, or does it have to be done by the company themselves?

Calahonda52

Its a two part process that needs to be started before any work gets done so the answer is no.
Also while they may have invoiced you for 13.5% they may not have been Tax complaint to avail of the scheme, hence the radio silence

http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/it/reliefs/hri/online-admin-faqs.html

The HRI online icon in ROS will only be available to Contractors registered for both VAT and RCT.

The HRI Input Works and HRI Input Payments options will only be available to tax compliant Contractors.

For RCT Subcontractors, this means a zero or 20% RCT Rate. For RCT Principals, it means being tax compliant.

mrcheez

Tax compliant means just charging VAT, or is it something else like the way only certain tradesmen could offer work covered by the SEAI grant (I recall they had to pay an annual fee to be a member or something similar)?


I also heard about people claiming after the work was done, so perhaps some wiggling was done with the job dates as a result!

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Gumbo

mrcheez wrote: »

Tax compliant means just charging VAT, or is it something else like the way only certain tradesmen could offer work covered by the SEAI grant (I recall they had to pay an annual fee to be a member or something similar)?


I also heard about people claiming after the work was done, so perhaps some wiggling was done with the job dates as a result!

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You have to register the job before you start.
You have to enter the full price.
Each payment is entered onto the system at each stage of payment by the contractor and you then can log in and approve it/see it.
Then you apply for the rebate the following year.

It can't be done retrospectively.

mrcheez

kceire wrote: »

It can't be done retrospectively.

Fair enough, I'll have to ask the contractor I'm dealing with how the other guys went about it that managed to claim for work that was done a YEAR before.. purely from a curiosity point of view.

Incidentally the current job I'm doing was registered with HRI before work started and is showing on ROS for me, but I had other jobs done earlier in the year before I knew the HRI scheme existed hence me asking here if they could be included.

mrcheez

mrcheez wrote: »

I'm getting work done which will bring me past the minimum required expenditure to qualify for HRI (Home Renovation Incentive), but I'd also like to include work I got done by other builders.

Calahonda52 wrote: »

Its a two part process that needs to be started before any work gets done so the answer is no.

kceire wrote: »

You have to register the job before you start.
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It can't be done retrospectively.

I contacted Revenue about it and they said:

"As long as the work was carried out after 25th October 2013 you will be entitled to claim tax relief under the HRI. This relief can still be claimed online."

So yes you can claim retrospectively

Gumbo

mrcheez wrote: »

I contacted Revenue about it and they said:

"As long as the work was carried out after 25th October 2013 you will be entitled to claim tax relief under the HRI. This relief can still be claimed online."

So yes you can claim retrospectively

They must have amended the rules. Here's my info booklet on it
The dates you posted above are the dates the scheme commenced and the proposed end date so you better make sure you can claim retrospectively. Did you ask revenue that specific question?

Make sure to ask a contractor early on in the consultation process if they are registered for the HRI, as once a project is complete it is not possible to make the Vat claim retrospectively.

The project must be registered online before work begins, and each payment by the client will be logged by the contractor into the HRI system. Prior to beginning the work, you can ask the contractor to show you the logged details on HRI online.

mrcheez

Yep they've changed the rules, just as they've also extended the HRI scheme to 2018 despite literature saying it's ending this month

Calahonda52

mrcheez wrote: »

I contacted Revenue about it and they said:

"As long as the work was carried out after 25th October 2013 you will be entitled to claim tax relief under the HRI. This relief can still be claimed online."

So yes you can claim retrospectively

For those other readers of this post, I don't share the OP's assertion re here.

However as its not my money I don't in fact care.:D

mrcheez

Calahonda52 wrote: »

For those other readers of this post, I don't share the OP's assertion re here.

However as its not my money I don't in fact care.:D

For the other readers of this post Calahonda got it wrong and I got the answer direct from Revenue, so decide which assertion you would like to share

Gumbo

mrcheez wrote: »

Yep they've changed the rules, just as they've also extended the HRI scheme to 2018 despite literature saying it's ending this month

The scheme has been extended year on year since its implementation. That's nothing new, will most likely extend beyond 2018 also.

mrcheez wrote: »

For the other readers of this post Calahonda got it wrong and I got the answer direct from Revenue, so decide which assertion you would like to share

I also somewhat agree with Calahonda, did you ask the specific question if you can retrospectively apply the HRI Scheme?

I asked again today and was told no. Details have to be uploaded before works start. Nowhere online even states differently that I could find.

mrcheez

kceire wrote: »

The scheme has been extended year on year since its implementation. That's nothing new, will most likely extend beyond 2018 also.



I also somewhat agree with Calahonda, did you ask the specific question if you can retrospectively apply the HRI Scheme?

I asked again today and was told no. Details have to be uploaded before works start. Nowhere online even states differently that I could find.

Specific question was asked.. I might ask them to double check, although the builder I'm working with at the moment said they also retroactively added jobs for people that weren't aware they were eligible at the time.

macadam

The local revenue have contacted me regarding an inquiry they had from a person I done work for in 2014 they wanted me to input the details of the client and back date the payments. This is where the conversation went pear shaped as I never received final payment, and at the time of doing the works the client didn't want to put the works through the HRI, they were also employed by the revenue.

mrcheez

*don't look at me*

mrcheez

Calahonda52 wrote: »

The HRI online icon in ROS will only be available to Contractors registered for both VAT and RCT.

Just following up on this, I found another job I did on the house that will qualify.

I paid VAT on the job, so does that mean the contractor will also have registered for RCT or is that optional?

If they are not registered for RCT can I still claim for the job another way?

Gumbo

mrcheez wrote: »

Just following up on this, I found another job I did on the house that will qualify.

I paid VAT on the job, so does that mean the contractor will also have registered for RCT or is that optional?

If they are not registered for RCT can I still claim for the job another way?

You have to ask that specific contractor. He has to register the job on the website.

mrcheez

I guess I'm asking, is it implied that you are registered for RCT automatically when you register for VAT, or is it something else?

Second question: in what circumstances is it ok to be registered for VAT but not RCT?

thanks!