Price for a round bale of silage

amacca

How much would ye charge for round bales of silage?

No DMD info on them....average quality I'd say, not the very best of stuff and not the worst either

also chopped make a difference?

+ some are last years made with stronger grass unchopped (more along the lines of haylage)

Don't want to do the lad...whatever a reasonable price so no ones nose is out of joint would be.

BENDYBINN

30 would be fair me thinks

Limestone Cowboy

BENDYBINN wrote: »

30 would be fair me thinks

30 would be a fair rob, 20-25 would be a lot more like it.

tractorporn

Limestone Cowboy wrote:

30 would be a fair rob, 20-25 would be a lot more like it.

A proper rob, buying bales currently for 22 euro

High bike

tractorporn wrote: »

A proper rob, buying bales currently for 22 euro

that sounds about right with the weather being so good

jimini0

I sold 10 of last years bales last week. They were good bales. I kinda knew the man so didn't want to rob him. He would give me a turn again. The bales cost me €13 to cut, bale and wrap. I added €2 for fert. So I charged him €20. He was delighted he even threw me €20 tip.

BENDYBINN

Given the cost of making a bale ,the cost of fertiliser the cost of land plus labour and transport storage ect no bale should be sold unde 30euro
25 pound minimum in uk

FarmerDougal

Wouldn't sell any here for less than 40€.

kk.man

I agree with most posters here about the price...you would need 25 euro for them however us in the southeast would do well to get 20 last year and this year is even going to be more tight....If you are in other areas or those that experienced bad weather you might be able to name your price.

amacca

Cheers gents, I have an idea of what a more than fair price is now. Don't want any hard feelings - something close to the 20mark will do me for this time

RedPeppers

The price of a bale should depend on quality. A neighbour here asked me to take 10 bales he had. They were pure muck wernt worth a fiver. On the other hand if they had been top quality I'd be happy to pay top price.

Username John

One thing which struck me here is the cost of how much bales cost to produce... and how much lads are willing to pay...

Often - we read comments in here about fair price, especially in the context of beef price... and as a primary producer, farmers are not getting a fair price...

But when it suits us - we're happy enough to forgot about a fair price...

hannible the cannible

It's about supply and demand , you can't charge 30 because you won't get it , everyone had a good year and made plenty fodder because 2012 is still fresh in the mind , there's a surplus of fodder in Ireland and it's a buyers market , I didn't bother making any this year and bought what I need , 25 a bale delivered to my yard , he's charging 20 if you collect yourself and he has plenty left as everyone has plenty because of the mild weather

Sam Kade

FarmerDougal wrote: »

Wouldn't sell any here for less than 40€.

I'd say your buyers would be few and far between

Username John

hannible the cannible wrote: »

It's about supply and demand , you can't charge 30 because you won't get it , everyone had a good year and made plenty fodder because 2012 is still fresh in the mind , there's a surplus of fodder in Ireland and it's a buyers market , I didn't bother making any this year and bought what I need , 25 a bale delivered to my yard , he's charging 20 if you collect yourself and he has plenty left as everyone has plenty because of the mild weather

Oh, I know...

But then when beef / lamb prices falls to ****, we blame Larry... supply and demand are then dirty words...

Just an observation is all

Welding Rod

tractorporn wrote: »

Limestone Cowboy wrote:

30 would be a fair rob, 20-25 would be a lot more like it.

A proper rob, buying bales currently for 22 euro

Highway robbery in my opinion. Seller getting mugged. Min cost of a bale of silage is €24 taking all inputs into account.
I'd let them rot in the stack before I'd sell below €28.
Nill illigitimus carborundum 💥

hannible the cannible

Maybe farmers are breeding too much beef and lamb , decrease supply and increase prices

Who2

hannible the cannible wrote: »

Maybe farmers are breeding too much beef and lamb , decrease supply and increase prices

And what then? Make bales of it?

Limestone Cowboy

Welding Rod wrote: »

Highway robbery in my opinion. Seller getting mugged. Min cost of a bale of silage is €24 taking all inputs into account.
I'd let them rot in the stack before I'd sell below €28.
Nill illigitimus carborundum 💥

No way is average quality strong silage worth more than 25e. The country is full of it for sale at that regardless of what it cost to make.

J.O. Farmer

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

No way is average quality strong silage worth more than 25e. The country is full of it for sale at that regardless of what it cost to make.

Above that price would it become more economical to feed meal and straw plus it'd be better feeding.

Who2

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

Above that price would it become more economical to feed meal and straw plus it'd be better feeding.

Silage in General is an uneconomical feed IMO. It's a maintanence diet at most and the sums don't add up. The only issue is they have to be fed something and I'm usually not organised enough to have other options arranged.

Welding Rod

Who2 wrote: »

hannible the cannible wrote: »

Maybe farmers are breeding too much beef and lamb , decrease supply and increase prices

And what then? Make bales of it?[/

Produce a lot less. Let Larry pay more. Making spare bales to sell at a loss to the fella that has too much stock is a mugs game.
What's the difference between getting mugged by Larry and getting mugged by another farmers.

Who2

Welding Rod wrote: »

Who2 wrote: »

And what then? Make bales of it?[/

Produce a lot less. Let Larry pay more. Making spare bales to sell at a loss to the fella that has too much stock is a mugs game.
What's the difference between getting mugged by Larry and getting mugged by another farmers.

There was a hint of sarcasm in that statement if you missed it.

Bass Reeves

Bought 20 bales 2nd cut fairly good stuff collected for 18/bale. Plenty around I know the cost of making it and did not bargain. Need to buy 50 -60 more. At over 25/bale I would be buying ration unless it was top quality silage

Timmaay

Buy in up to 1/2 my winter fodder here, paid anything from 15 to 25e for bales the last few years. Very few lucky bags either, haven't got stung with bad stuff yet. I just paid 25e for afew bales last week, I know they are good leafy bales and perfect for the milkers when myown leafy bales run out.

FarmerDougal

Cost of making
16€ per bale to mow rake bale wrap (light crop)
2€ Plastic
2€ haul to yard
15€ fertiliser p k offtake
5€ land charge, storage on slab
Total 40€

Cost of silage to buyer at 40€/bale
1000kg 35% dm
350kg dm 75dmd
11.4c/kgdm

Like I say, id be giving it away at that

welton john

FarmerDougal wrote: »

Cost of making
16€ per bale to mow rake bale wrap (light crop)
2€ Plastic
2€ haul to yard
15€ fertiliser p k offtake
5€ land charge, storage on slab
Total 40€

Cost of silage to buyer at 40€/bale
1000kg 35% dm
350kg dm 75dmd
11.4c/kgdm

Like I say, id be giving it away at that

At 16 a bale I be looking for a new contractor, most here would be €4 less at least and that is for 4/5 bale acre crops

FarmerDougal

welton john wrote: »

At 16 a bale I be looking for a new contractor, most here would be €4 less at least and that is for 4/5 bale acre crops

No, 1-2 bales per acre

barnaman

Should be €10 a bale to mow etc getting mine at €9.75, good bales going €15 to €18 a bale my area out of yard

Timmaay

FarmerDougal wrote: »

No, 1-2 bales per acre

I doubt you'll find anyone stupid enough to cut only 1 or 2 bales/ac if they know they are going to be just flogging them on ha!

FarmerDougal

Timmaay wrote: »

I doubt you'll find anyone stupid enough to cut only 1 or 2 bales/ac if they know they are going to be just flogging them on ha!

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Don't follow timaay, contractor bales here regardless.. rarely sell silage but just stating that's what I'd have to get to break even! Some lads think their making money selling silage

Timmaay

FarmerDougal wrote: »

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Don't follow timaay, contractor bales here regardless.. rarely sell silage but just stating that's what I'd have to get to break even! Some lads think their making money selling silage

Ah yeh fair enough if your keeping them, but as I said if you know your going to sell them you generally will cut for bulk.

_Brian

Probelm is there's damn all difference in the price of rubbish silage baled or good stuff baled..

Not pay a contractor and bale much use of silage under maybe €16-18 a bale.. Why would you sell below cost ??

Let stuff off a few years ago for €15 a bale but it was into its second winter and I reckoned it was that or it was wasted..

barnaman

What happens is lads bale more than they need on basis as might need it/flog for profit then when no/low demand it ends up selling for cost. Better to get a few euro a bale then be left with waste.

darragh_haven

Been selling bales here for 6 or 7 years. €30/bale for the last 5 years. Top quality stuff.. No haggling, no discounts. Sell approx 200/ year. If there happens to be a bale that went bad, we will replace it for free.
Never advertise! 4 or 5 repeat customers. Customers pay for the whole lot they order before the first bale is loaded. Most guys will put in an order for the next year as they are taking away their last load this winter.
Probably €32 next year.

FarmerDougal

darragh_haven wrote: »

Been selling bales here for 6 or 7 years. €30/bale for the last 5 years. Top quality stuff.. No haggling, no discounts. Sell approx 200/ year. If there happens to be a bale that went bad, we will replace it for free.
Never advertise! 4 or 5 repeat customers. Customers pay for the whole lot they order before the first bale is loaded. Most guys will put in an order for the next year as they are taking away their last load this winter.
Probably €32 next year.

Sounds great value...no wonder they keep coming back!

barnaman

guess alot depends on part of country you are in. Did a quick search on done deal and looked see whats in South Tipp

https://www.donedeal.ie/farmproduce-for-sale/round-bales-of-silage/12976884

€17 a bale

https://www.donedeal.ie/farmproduce-for-sale/hay-for-sale/13599327

€22 a bale for hay

my own farm and neighbours if you have reseeded ground with plenty of slurry grass is almost a nuisance so plenty of bales floating around

darragh_haven

FarmerDougal wrote: »

Sounds great value...no wonder they keep coming back!

A fair price is what id call it. Was told fairly often that they were "fierce dear". I just respond with " you dont have to buy them" as the fcuk off

tanko

With a short winter it doesn't matter what it cost to make bales, they're only worth what someone is willing to pay for them.

Bass Reeves

tanko wrote: »

With a short winter it doesn't matter what it cost to make bales, they're only worth what someone is willing to pay for them.

Same as cattle too many of either causes a price drop.

Nobbies

We will see next may(along way of the 11th of december) wats left of harvest 2016 in ireland.cattle are hoovering up silage at the moment and there growing every day in size.

tanko

True, i should have said IF we get a short winter.
I always budget to have enough bales to do until May and buy them before Xmas if I'm short of this.

Sam Kade

darragh_haven wrote: »

A fair price is what id call it. Was told fairly often that they were "fierce dear". I just respond with " you dont have to buy them" as the fcuk off

Thing is if your price is high they will go elsewhere or buy alternative feed, what happens then with a yard full of bales?

Sam Kade

Welding Rod wrote: »

Highway robbery in my opinion. Seller getting mugged. Min cost of a bale of silage is €24 taking all inputs into account.
I'd let them rot in the stack before I'd sell below €28.
Nill illigitimus carborundum 💥

You'd let them rot in the stack? Nothing worse than a stack of dung wrapped in net and plastic, plenty work unwrapping them and making a heap of dung.

darragh_haven

Sam Kade wrote: »

Thing is if your price is high they will go elsewhere or buy alternative feed, what happens then with a yard full of bales?

We feed them ourselves.... pits silage is only used after bales are gone. We dont need to sell, but choose to sell. 4 repeat customers have no problem if the silage is quality. They were burnt before buying lucky bags.

BENDYBINN

Sam Kade wrote: »

You'd let them rot in the stack? Nothing worse than a stack of dung wrapped in net and plastic, plenty work unwrapping them and making a heap of dung.

Bad management if that happens
Bales if minded are good for two years. By using the older bales first each year this eliminates this problem

Green farmer

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Bales if minded are good for two years. By using the older bales first each year this eliminates this problem[/quote]


I do this but their never quiet as good the second year, and you'll have more waste in them. I'm usually relieved when I'm finished them and moved on to the fresh stuff. I always double wrap as well.

orm0nd

It's a kind of a catch 22 situation. Seller would need 25, purchaser would need to buy at about 20 for both to get value. With barley wheat hull mixes currently available at circa 200 blown in, I wouldn't give more than 22 for top quality wilted bales. Less if I had to draw any distance.

Sam Kade

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Bad management if that happens
Bales if minded are good for two years. By using the older bales first each year this eliminates this problem

Well he did say he'd let them rot in the stack if he didn't get top price.

Night Nav

Has anyone any prices for good quality chopped silage bales this year

Dunedin

Night Nav wrote: »

Has anyone any prices for good quality chopped silage bales this year

Paid €25 last week for 20 bales. To be honest, don’t know the quality but it seems ok.