UFC 206: Holloway v Pettis (Interim Featherweight Title)

Paully D

Date: Saturday 10th December
Times: Fight Pass Prelims (11:30pm, Fight Pass), Prelims (1am, Fight Pass & BT Sport), Main Card (3am, BT Sport)
Venue: Toronto, Canada
Odds: Holloway (8/13) v Pettis (28/17)

* The winner of the main event fights Jose Aldo for the undisputed featherweight title

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StringerBell

Looking forward to this, shame it has been disrupted by injury so badly.

eurokev

Really looking forward to makdessi and vannata, has the potential to be a cracker. Vanatta against Ferguson recently was one of my favourite fights the last few years

Gamebred

Pettis via KO/TKO

Pettis never been finished so Max will be winning by decision here I think, I think Cowboy is going to absolutely ruin Brown finish him standing 2 years ago I'd of fancied Brown's chances but hes declining I think.

ricero

Pettis via KO/TKO

I really am looking forward to this card. Some exciting fighters on display but i am most looking forward to the korean superboy vs cub swanson. Reckon holloway wins by UD

Zero-Cool

Holloway via Submission

Can see Max going into beast mode and swarming on Anto, if Pettis can't last 5 rounds at 145, Max will get the tko win imo.

Also hope Brown smashes Cowboy and Vanatta puts on another wild show. Hope Val pulls off the win as well, she could do with one.

John_D80

Holloway via Submission

Main event should be a cracker here. Really think Holloway can get the finish on Pettis that no else has heretofore.

Fromvert

I'm hoping Holloway and Brown get some nice wins against Pettis/Cerrone.
Also on the Choi bandwagon and want Kennedy to beat Gastelum.

xtal191

Pettis via Decision

Cant wait for Choi Swanson, think Pettis will beat Holloway and really hope Brown kicks the **** out of Cerrone but I cant see that happening.

Not a bad looking card at all.

Mellor

Pettis via KO/TKO

I think Vannata is going to be a let down here. Can't possibly match that crazy debut

Richard Hillman

Why is this for the interim title? Considering Aldo was interim Champion and promoted to "Undisputed" when McGregor was stripped of his title?

Mellor

Pettis via KO/TKO

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Why is this for the interim title?

No reason tbh.
Just because...

Gamebred

Pettis via KO/TKO

To make more interest and try sell the ppv (it wont)

Wrongway1985

Pettis via KO/TKO

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Why is this for the interim title? Considering Aldo was interim Champion and promoted to "Undisputed" when McGregor was stripped of his title?

When there's a winner here Aldo be back to being very much disputed with the existence of another title holder in his weight class just like when Conor beat Chad. I just hope someone lays this info on to Bruce Buffer.

rob316

Main event will be good, but its a really poor card. I suppose its expected after the 205 super card.

Wrongway1985

Pettis via KO/TKO

Not a bad card by any means bout by bout I can't fault the match ups anyway theres just no spark to get it off the ground, even the last fight night seemed they were advertising 207 and Ronda's return with 2 title fights more than 206 which last I checked comes before 207, gave me an indication that its not the companies priority and they've even written it off themselves. Tonights card now thats a bad card!!

rob316

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

Not a bad card by any means bout by bout I can't fault the match ups anyway theres just no spark to get it off the ground, even the last fight night seemed they were advertising 207 and Ronda's return with 2 title fights more than 206 which last I checked comes before 207, gave me an indication that its not the companies priority and they've even written it off themselves. Tonights card now thats a bad card!!

Well ya there is some good fights there, but their is no star power, not a sprinkle of it.
207 does look good though.

Gamebred

Pettis via KO/TKO

https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/807238215065366528

Depp

Pettis via Decision

if he misses he cant win the interim belt can't he not? this is hilarious

Fromvert

Max is going to wash him

148lbs so much for the Interim belt :pac:

dashoonage

Can max decide not to fight now ? he would be a fool to fight a heavier pettis and risk a loss that could take him out of the title race.

id be sitting on my couch going Dana baby i showed up....now gimme aldo homie.

Zero-Cool

Holloway via Submission

Will it even still be for a belt since no one has it atm?

Gamebred

Pettis via KO/TKO

Not a hope Max would turn the fight down, he will get 20% off Pettis money too although he could play hardball if he had wanted.

Gamebred

Pettis via KO/TKO

Gamebred wrote: »

Not a hope Max would turn the fight down, he will get 20% off Pettis money too although he could play hardball if he had wanted.

I saw Ariel tweeted, I wonder how far off making weight Petits is?

dashoonage

Gamebred wrote: »

Not a hope Max would turn the fight down, he will get 20% off Pettis money too although he could play hardball if he had wanted.

is 20% worth it though. If pettis wins max is out of the title picture.

Gamebred

Pettis via KO/TKO

The card is ruined if Holloway doesnt fight he would never get another shot for pulling, they will compensate him though I hope, Good to see Dana's plans backfire Pettis is 1-4 shouldnt be fighting for any belt as it is.

Zero-Cool

Holloway via Submission

Anto weighed in at 148. Looks like belt is off the table.

Depp

Pettis via Decision

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Anto weighed in at 148. Looks like belt is off the table.

hope he wins in devestating fashion now, just to further throw a wrench into the plans if nothing else

Gamebred

Pettis via KO/TKO

Looks like an Ethopian absolute scenes if he wins the boiled piss will be strong.

Fromvert

The new weigh in procedure is making a lot of guys miss weight. I think there was one missed weight in the first five months (old procedure), there's been 18 since May. Fighters are obviously struggling with the early weigh in.

Make that 19, Letourneau missed weight too.

Holloway v Pettis still on, Max can win the belt, Pettis can't.

rob316

I know Pettis cant win the interim spot but if he does win, what does that do for Holloways credibility as no 1 contender for Aldo.

This whole thing is an absolute mess.

Gamebred

Pettis via KO/TKO

Pettis wins who gets a shot? hes going straight back to 155 now Im guessing no way can they trust him to make it against Aldo.

ricero

Pettis via KO/TKO

I say dana is praying for a holloway win tomorrow and also a sensational korean superboy knock out. Can see him strapping a rocket to superboy if he wins well tomorrow

Depp

Pettis via Decision

ricero wrote: »

I say dana is praying for a holloway win tomorrow and also a sensational korean superboy knock out. Can see him strapping a rocket to superboy if he wins well tomorrow

whats his english like? chap has buckets of potential star-wise

Playboy

Think Pettis will take this. He always fights better off the back foot against fighters who come forward and are aggressive. Think it will go to a decision but I think Pettis experience of high pressure fights will pay off. Max is still young and probably a higher ceiling as a fighter but I think headlining an event and fighting someone of Pettis's caliber will too much just now. Definitely a future champion though!

Gamebred

Pettis via KO/TKO

Pettis was gassed after 2 rounds last time not a hope hes going 5 here and winning a decision he wont be winning 3 rounds imo he needs a finish imo.

Depp

Pettis via Decision

Gamebred wrote: »

Pettis was gassed after 2 rounds last time not a hope hes going 5 here and winning a decision he wont be winning 3 rounds imo he needs a finish imo.

wouldnt be surprised to see a pettis sub in this if hes not too tapped from the weigh in

Gamebred

Pettis via KO/TKO

Depp wrote: »

wouldnt be surprised to see a pettis sub in this if hes not too tapped from the weigh in

Yeah hes legit off his back alright great submission skills but I cant see Max wanting to grapple with him (hes no bad grappler himself lately) can see Pettis having early success his kicks are lethal but the pressure will be too much I reckon.

califano

Holloway via Submission

Why does it always seem to take the weigh in reader guy 15 extra seconds every time someone weighs over!.

Tigger

Pettis via Submission

so this i a fight for the interim belt but the interim belt isn't held by either and only 1 can win it?

mdwexford

So unprofessional, joke the amount of fighters that miss weight.

Glad Max doesn't miss out a chance to get a title.

wonderfullife

https://twitter.com/John_Kavanagh/status/807262087256870913


3 Observations:

1. No, Conor has never missed weight. And that's to his eternal credit and professionalism.

2. But has Conor ever had a fight camp where he wakes up at 4am in Straffan, looks outside his bedroom window to see all his cars burning to the ground and worried sick for the safety of his partner/child, wondering is someone downstairs?

No? Well that's exactly what Pettis went through in this camp.

Sure, he could have pulled out if the stress and worry of a repeat arson attack was too high.

On the other hand, he pushed through the mental adversity and did his best to show up and compete.

3. John Phillips recently missed weight by 13.2lbs and over recent weeks nearly everyone in SBG has been harrassing the UFC on Twitter to get him signed. Sinead Kavanagh and Richie Smullen also missed weight on the BAMMA 26 card.


My point?

It's all well and good pointing to Conor's professionalism and kicking Pettis when he's down. Why you'd want to do that, I've no idea.

But it comes across very hypocritical when Phillips, who talks just as big a game as Pettis, misses by a full stone and you're trying to lobby for his signature.

I really don't understand what he gets out of this. Pettis is a decent fella, by most accounts. He had a really tough camp. Any of us here would have trouble sleeping at night if someone burned our cars to the ground while we are asleep.

How could Pettis truly relax going to the gym? How could he truly focus? If he's in any way human, he'd have a nagging worry if his wife and child are ok at home while he's in the gym sparring.

Maybe he should have pulled out of the fight and anyone saying that, I've no problem agreeing with. It's a testament to his character that he at least tried to make the weight and show up to fight.

Just don't understand the point in kicking a man when he's down. He should be praised for his determination not taken the p1ss out of.

These sort of Tweets are exactly the reason John is getting a bad reputation among other Elite Coaches and fighters. Chael Sonnen said as much on his podcast.

Gamebred

Pettis via KO/TKO

You look into these things too seriously Wonder, its a tongue in cheek comment hes not abusing him or anything for missing weight just a general comment he has every right to post anyone who doesnt like it can click unfollow you cant analyze every single thing he posts so literally relax and ignore it you hold him to these high standards for some reason, you must realise he doesnt have to behave to yours or anybodys.

wonderfullife

Gamebred wrote: »

You look into these things too seriously Wonder, its a tongue in cheek comment hes not abusing him or anything for missing weight just a general comment he has every right to post anyone who doesnt like it can click unfollow you cant analyze every single thing he posts so literally relax and ignore it you hold him to these high standards for some reason, you must realise he doesnt have to behave to yours or anybodys.

He tweeted it just after Pettis missed weight. And in the thread said his point is simple "Conor makes the weight every time". I.e. Pettis didn't.

It's a snide, snarky put-down of another athlete while praising his own athlete, Conor. Notice he didn't tweet sarcastic BS when 3 of SBG missed weight at BAMMA 26.

He can behave whatever way he wants, I'm allowed an opinion on it.

I can now relate to how Dana White feels. One minute accused of being a nuthugger and the next implied a hater.

EoineyM

Was just watching the embedded videos earlier and it showed Pettis and his team eating out in some local restaurant, "treating themselves" because everything was on point. Very poor judgement by all.

wonderfullife

EoineyM wrote: »

Was just watching the embedded videos earlier and it showed Pettis and his team eating out in some local restaurant, "treating themselves" because everything was on point. Very poor judgement by all.

Pettis weighed 154lbs on Wednesday according to his team. Which should be a very easy cut down to 145lbs. Obviously, for whatever reason, he couldn't sweat it out.

That steak he had for dinner, which incidentally was 6 days ago, might well have been the only substantial meal he had that day.

I don't get why everyone is on his case. He had the hardest camp of his life in so many ways and it's his 2nd attempt at the new weight class. He made weight the first time!! It's not as if he has a history of screwing up. Give him a break.

moneyman

wonderfullife wrote: »

https://twitter.com/John_Kavanagh/status/807262087256870913


3 Observations:

1. No, Conor has never missed weight. And that's to his eternal credit and professionalism.

2. But has Conor ever had a fight camp where he wakes up at 4am in Straffan, looks outside his bedroom window to see all his cars burning to the ground and worried sick for the safety of his partner/child, wondering is someone downstairs?

No? Well that's exactly what Pettis went through in this camp.

Sure, he could have pulled out if the stress and worry of a repeat arson attack was too high.

On the other hand, he pushed through the mental adversity and did his best to show up and compete.

3. John Phillips recently missed weight by 13.2lbs and over recent weeks nearly everyone in SBG has been harrassing the UFC on Twitter to get him signed. Sinead Kavanagh and Richie Smullen also missed weight on the BAMMA 26 card.


My point?

It's all well and good pointing to Conor's professionalism and kicking Pettis when he's down. Why you'd want to do that, I've no idea.

But it comes across very hypocritical when Phillips, who talks just as big a game as Pettis, misses by a full stone and you're trying to lobby for his signature.

I really don't understand what he gets out of this. Pettis is a decent fella, by most accounts. He had a really tough camp. Any of us here would have trouble sleeping at night if someone burned our cars to the ground while we are asleep.

How could Pettis truly relax going to the gym? How could he truly focus? If he's in any way human, he'd have a nagging worry if his wife and child are ok at home while he's in the gym sparring.

Maybe he should have pulled out of the fight and anyone saying that, I've no problem agreeing with. It's a testament to his character that he at least tried to make the weight and show up to fight.

Just don't understand the point in kicking a man when he's down. He should be praised for his determination not taken the p1ss out of.

These sort of Tweets are exactly the reason John is getting a bad reputation among other Elite Coaches and fighters. Chael Sonnen said as much on his podcast.

You're not afraid to criticise your best friends, I'll give you that.

Gamebred

Pettis via KO/TKO

wonderfullife wrote: »

He tweeted it just after Pettis missed weight. And in the thread said his point is simple "Conor makes the weight every time". I.e. Pettis didn't.

It's a snide, snarky put-down of another athlete while praising his own athlete, Conor. Notice he didn't tweet sarcastic BS when 3 of SBG missed weight at BAMMA 26.

He can behave whatever way he wants, I'm allowed an opinion on it.

I can now relate to how Dana White feels. One minute accused of being a nuthugger and the next implied a hater.

Didnt accuse you of being a hater, I just said you cant hold JK to your standards or anybody else's hes his own man he cant tweet what he wants if you dont like it dont follow,

Dont know why you care for the tweet so much you seem to be offended on behalf of Pettis from my reading of your original post.

EoineyM

wonderfullife wrote: »

Pettis weighed 154lbs on Wednesday according to his team. Which should be a very easy cut down to 145lbs. Obviously, for whatever reason, he couldn't sweat it out.

That steak he had for dinner, which incidentally was 6 days ago, might well have been the only substantial meal he had that day.

I don't get why everyone is on his case. He had the hardest camp of his life in so many ways and it's his 2nd attempt at the new weight class. He made weight the first time!! It's not as if he has a history of screwing up. Give him a break.

it was some sized steak all the same! Plus an egg on top!

wonderfullife

moneyman wrote: »

You're not afraid to criticise your best friends, I'll give you that.

Some people think being a fan of something means you have to be a sycophant.

I love Radiohead but if they release a sh1t album, I'm gonna say it's sh1t lol.

I've a ton of respect for Conor and John - and praise/defend them on this forum almost non-stop.

But when it comes to mocking other athletes or mentally ill people who send STUPID messages to your inbox, then yeah I'll be critical. Just as I was critical of that time he said they couldn't afford tracksuits for the IMMAF worlds. Or when Luka needed a shorts sponsor etc.

And of course.....

TOM EGAN. lol. Poor Tom. :pac:

finglashoop

wonderfullife wrote: »

Pettis weighed 154lbs on Wednesday according to his team. Which should be a very easy cut down to 145lbs. Obviously, for whatever reason, he couldn't sweat it out.

That steak he had for dinner, which incidentally was 6 days ago, might well have been the only substantial meal he had that day.

I don't get why everyone is on his case. He had the hardest camp of his life in so many ways and it's his 2nd attempt at the new weight class. He made weight the first time!! It's not as if he has a history of screwing up. Give him a break.

Title on the line. If max loses it makes the weight an even bigger sh1tshow. I agree with the comment about kavanagh is hypocritical ( i doubt any camp has never missed weight, open to correction ) but hes entitled to say what he wants and pettis probably talked about a mcgregor fight at some point and hes messed up big time here.

He obviously wasnt on point when he had that steak.

I also agee about the mental toughness with regard to car incondent. How long ago did that happen?