In 50 years who will be the main players on the world stage?

steddyeddy

With Brexit and Trump having the potential to change the face of the world, how do you envisage the world stage in fifty years? Do you see the rise of nations like China and India or will the UK and US still retain their places in the world's top economies?

brevity

The cockroaches.

kfallon

Prob still The Rolling Stones.....

MeatTwoVeg

The Alpha Centurions.

Outlaw Pete

Leitrim will finally lift Sam with a team made up of... a great bunch of lads.

Fuzzytrooper

Patrick Stewart probably. I'm not sure if he is capable of death.

Cina

China, maybe.

India? Unlikely. Most of their population lives on $1 a day. The poverty there is simply astonishing.

Most likely, the US will continue to be the 'main player'.

And hopefully, Britain's EU exit will go so terribly that it'll show how important and powerful the EU is, the countries in it will further unify, and it'll become the 'superpower' it was destined to be.

Or.. WW3 will break out and we'll all be obliterated.

GBX

Kate Hopkins and Piers Morgan will be all over it!

Maximus Alexander

Meh, who cares. Unless we invent robot bodies I'll either be dead or old enough that it won't matter to me.

The flying mouse

In 50 years I be a 105,

Uk wont be united ,

Ireland will be , albit with some out breaks of violence from dissident loyalists.

Brazil & India will be major players on the world stage with Us,Russ,China,


Eu will also be a major force with England still having a lot of influence.


All the same in the middle east, different countries same problems with interference etc etc, All the countries will be much more stronger military with Israel leading the pack.

Africa, I just don't know.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Probably someone who either isn;t born yet or hasn't bothered to visit yet.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

If the growth of the Latin American middle class continues then countries like Brazil will certainly be richer and more influential but I'm not sure any will be world powers.

biko

I agree with OP about China and India, but probably more like 10 years, if even that.

Richard Hillman

South America is where it is at. And with the Islamist invasion of Europe taking place, it could be where our future lays.

There may be a war to retake Europe

Berserker

biko wrote: »

I agree with OP about China and India, but probably more like 10 years, if even that.

Agree with you and I would add Brazil but they won't be a super power. I think that Russia will still be big hitters, along with the USA but both will be well behind the two above. The UK and Japan will also be there or thereabouts.

The flying mouse wrote: »

Ireland will be , albit with some out breaks of violence from dissident loyalists.

Was waiting to see how long that would take. Can't see it happening but Gerry Adams will probably have been given the title of "Eternal President of SF" within the next 50 years and his remains will be on display in a mausoleum on the Falls Road.

Peregrinus

Countries change "their places in the world's top economies" quite frequently. If we look back 50 years, for example, India was in 10th place; now it's in 7th; having overtaken Italy and Canada. Brazil wasn't even in the top ten; now it's in ninth place. The Soviet Union was in 2nd place; it no longer exists but its principal successor, Russia, is not in the top 10 today. Japan has risen from 7th place to 3rd.

The pattern seems to be that "established" countries move down the ranks fairly slowly - in 50 years, German, the UK and France have all fallen by just one place, Canada by 2 places. Italy has bobbed up and down between 9th and 7th place but now, in 8th place, is one spot higher than in 1960. Countries going up are fewer in number, but they go up faster - China and Japan have both risen by 4 places.

My guess would be that in 50 years time the top 3 will still be US, EU, China, but with China probably in first place rather than third. There'll be a couple of new entrants - South Korea, maybe Russia on the way back up, maybe Mexico or Indonesia. Countries like Germany, the UK and France will have fallen back another spot or two, and maybe Canada or Italy will have fallen out of the top 10. Obviously that could be disrupted by as-yet-unforeseen events analogous to the break-up of the Soviet Union.

snotboogie

The CCP will fall within 50 years, the Chinese public don't have the stomach for the major recession that will, eventually, come. While the Chinese economy is, by developing nations standards, in order, it's political situation is a complete basket case, there are so many wounds from the Cultural Revolution to Tienanmen that are primed to be reopened,

The_Valeyard

Federal States of Europe (reborn EU)

Confederation of American Nations (South America far right democracy)

The African Dominion (directors of corporations for countries)

The Pan Asian Alliance (various Asian countries controlled by Monarchy China)

Unified States of America (Northern US States)

Independent Alliance of America (West coast US)

Southern Coalition of America (South US +Mexican territiory)

Russian Confederation (Eastern Europe, Southern Asia)

Australian Hegemony (States allied against China)

El Weirdo

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Federal States of Europe (reborn EU)

Confederation of American Nations (South America far right democracy)

The African Dominion (directors of corporations for countries)

The Pan Asian Alliance (various Asian countries controlled by Monarchy China)

Unified States of America (Northern US States)

Independent Alliance of America (West coast US)

Southern Coalition of America (South US +Mexican territiory)

Russian Confederation (Eastern Europe, Southern Asia)

Australian Hegemony (States allied against China)

Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia.

The_Valeyard

El Weirdo wrote: »

Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia.

We have always been at war with East Asia

A Little Pony

Hollywood will probably still be controlled by Jews. Trump will be seen as a great President.

Didas

Richard Hillman wrote: »

South America is where it is at. And with the Islamist invasion of Europe taking place, it could be where our future lays.

There may be a war to retake Europe

Of course sure the last war to 'retake Europe' from a small religious minority with little influence went very well...

Wanderer78

A Little Pony wrote: »

Hollywood will probably still be controlled by Jews. Trump will be seen as a great President.

now that would be scary

Stonedpilot

Same as now,

THE ROTHSCHILDS (and of course their minions to do the bidding)

Wanderer78

Stonedpilot wrote: »

Same as now,

THE ROTHSCHILDS (and of course their minions to do the bidding)

ah the rothschilds are big players alright but our financial and banking systems are a lot more complicated than that. i do feel we have duplicated their private banking system model and turned it into a behemoth thats largely out of control

ScumLord

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Meh, who cares. Unless we invent robot bodies I'll either be dead or old enough that it won't matter to me.

Yeah, lets pollute the fup out of this bitch before we die. Whooot!!

China hasn't got a bright future and it knows it. That's why it's buying up resources left, right, and centre all over the world. First of all they depend on the rest of the world being rich enough to buy their stuff, that's changing but it's still a major part of their economy.

They've striped China bare. They've polluted on a scale that would put the west to shame and are find basics like clean water hard to come by in the future.

They played capitalism hard and are set to wake up with the mother of all hangover in the coming decades. They'll either fizzle out or come looking for our stuff.

America always has the potential to stay on top.

Europe is still pretty dynamic and our collaboration gives us an advantage but it's possible we'll have ripped ourselves apart by then, we'll be itching for a bit of war by then too.

Maybe computers will be sentient by then and they'll just take over. That's probably the best case scenario.

Winterlong

If my 6 year old bosses the world like he bosses me then he will be our grand master. All hail.

A Little Pony

ScumLord wrote: »

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Meh, who cares. Unless we invent robot bodies I'll either be dead or old enough that it won't matter to me.

Yeah, lets pollute the fup out of this bitch before we die. Whooot!!

China hasn't got a bright future and it knows it. That's why it's buying up resources left, right, and centre all over the world. First of all they depend on the rest of the world being rich enough to buy their stuff, that's changing but it's still a major part of their economy.

They've striped China bare. They've polluted on a scale that would put the west to shame and are find basics like clean water hard to come by in the future.

They played capitalism hard and are set to wake up with the mother of all hangover in the coming decades. They'll either fizzle out or come looking for our stuff.

America always has the potential to stay on top.

Europe is still pretty dynamic and our collaboration gives us an advantage but it's possible we'll have ripped ourselves apart by then, we'll be itching for a bit of war by then too.

Maybe computers will be sentient by then and they'll just take over. That's probably the best case scenario.

The planet will be fine. It has existed for billions of years, global warmists get carried away with themselves. The planet will be fine.

midnight city

Corporations, banks and a small cohort of super rich.

HenryHill

Irish people a minority in ireland

ScumLord

A Little Pony wrote: »

The planet will be fine. It has existed for billions of years, global warmists get carried away with themselves. The planet will be fine.

We won't though, we're a tropical ape, sure we can live in all sorts of environments but it's going to be a **** lifestyle for anyone that has to live through it. Life on earth survived an ice age that covered the entire planet in ice miles thick, so life will go on, humans will likely survive any catastrophe, but it won't be pleasant.

Mr. FoggPatches

Jim Corr's son will rule from his base on mont blanc. His insect armies will stamp down on lizard uprisings and popcorn will be illegal.

The_Valeyard

Mr. FoggPatches wrote: »

Jim Corr's son will rule from his base on mont blanc. His insect armies will stamp down on lizard uprisings and popcorn will be illegal.

But tinfoil will be free

A Little Pony

HenryHill wrote: »

Irish people a minority in ireland

Good call. With Islam around anything is possible.

A Little Pony

ScumLord wrote: »

A Little Pony wrote: »

The planet will be fine. It has existed for billions of years, global warmists get carried away with themselves. The planet will be fine.

We won't though, we're a tropical ape, sure we can live in all sorts of environments but it's going to be a **** lifestyle for anyone that has to live through it. Life on earth survived an ice age that covered the entire planet in ice miles thick, so life will go on, humans will likely survive any catastrophe, but it won't be pleasant.

Humans will adapt, as evolution shows us.

ZeroThreat

steddyeddy wrote: »

With Brexit and Trump having the potential to change the face of the world, how do you envisage the world stage in fifty years? Do you see the rise of nations like China and India or will the UK and US still retain their places in the world's top economies?

New Rome and the monks of the order of St. Leibowitz.

Either them or Eurasia (definitely not Oceania)

Wanderer78

A Little Pony wrote: »

Humans will adapt, as evolution shows us.

https://www.ipcc.ch/

enjoy

LirW

Probably some Corgi will rule the world with an army of mutant seagulls. And believe me, as someone who's very familiar with both, may anything save us from that scenario.

LordSutch

China,
Russia,
USA,
India,
Germany,
France,
Israel,
UK ???

hellyeah

The world will keep turning, only we'll end.

Richard Hillman

tonygun wrote: »

Of course sure the last war to 'retake Europe' from a small religious minority with little influence went very well...

You think they will still be a small minority in 50 years time?

Even if they are still a technical minority in 50 years time, with our democracies so fragmented, it would only need a voting block of around 30-40% to form a government. And that is being generous, as a lot of countries are moving towards a bonus system for the leading party

Maximus Alexander

hellyeah wrote: »

The world will keep turning, only we'll end.

Does it matter if the world keeps turning if we end? There'll be nobody to care.

Capt'n Midnight

Richard Hillman wrote: »

You think they will still be a small minority in 50 years time?

Even if they are still a technical minority in 50 years time, with our democracies so fragmented, it would only need a voting block of around 30-40% to form a government. And that is being generous, as a lot of countries are moving towards a bonus system for the leading party

With first past the post you only need a majority in just over half the constituencies. If people vote for a third party then you don't even need 25% of the voters. Given an election turnout of 50% then you'd only need about 13% of the electorate , so maybe only be 10% of the population.

Mr Gerry Mander knows more about this.

Like Daniel Bryan, the UK is a B plus player.

Iwasfrozen

The EU will have fragmented further and become largely irrelevant as an institution. European countries will continue to fall in power and prosperity relative to the rest of the world.

Russia will similarly fall in power due to its self imposed isolation. Possibly splitting apart along historic ethnic lines.

China will become more belligerent, stay totalitarian. India will be richer but not powerful.

The US I think will actually increase in power relative to the world and if Trump has his way will have a deep isolationist tint.

I could see Brazil being a big player if they exploit the full agricultural potential of the Amazon basin but that would take more than 50 years and would cause major environmental damage.

jmayo

If things keep going the way they are, the real power will be with corporations and their mega rich owners.
And if the trend of last 40/50 years is anything to go by, it will be very few corporations at that.

Wealth will be totally concentrated.

Where there were once dozens of car, aircraft and computer manufacturers there is now just a few in each.

In Western world jobless numbers will be staggering due to advances in automation and that added to aging population will mean they are more bit part players.
Africa may probably be what parts of Asia and China are today, sweatshops.

There will be wars over water, both who has access to freshwater and who gets to avoid rising sea levels.

On a happier note in GAA circles Mayo will rightly be going for another 5 wins in a row.

Maximus Alexander

jmayo wrote: »

If things keep going the way they are, the real power will be with corporations and their mega rich owners.
And if the trend of last 40/50 years is anything to go by, it will be very few corporations at that.

Wealth will be totally concentrated.

Where there were once dozens of car, aircraft and computer manufacturers there is now just a few in each.

In Western world jobless numbers will be staggering due to advances in automation and that added to aging population will mean they are more bit part players.
Africa may probably be what parts of Asia and China are today, sweatshops.

There will be wars over water, both who has access to freshwater and who gets to avoid rising sea levels.

On a happier note in GAA circles Mayo will rightly be going for another 5 wins in a row.

Which movie was this?

ZeroThreat

jmayo wrote: »

If things keep going the way they are, the real power will be with corporations and their mega rich owners.
And if the trend of last 40/50 years is anything to go by, it will be very few corporations at that.

Wealth will be totally concentrated.

Where there were once dozens of car, aircraft and computer manufacturers there is now just a few in each.

In Western world jobless numbers will be staggering due to advances in automation and that added to aging population will mean they are more bit part players.
Africa may probably be what parts of Asia and China are today, sweatshops.

There will be wars over water, both who has access to freshwater and who gets to avoid rising sea levels.

On a happier note in GAA circles Mayo will rightly be going for another 5 wins in a row.

Hopefully we'll live in the capitol, & not one of the districts. :rolleyes:

Billy86

Fuzzytrooper wrote: »

Patrick Stewart probably. I'm not sure if he is capable of death.

Nah, he just pulled a crafty trick by ageing into his 70s during his 30s and then waiting for time to catch up.

ZeroThreat

Billy86 wrote: »

Nah, he just pulled a crafty trick by ageing into his 70s during his 30s and then waiting for time to catch up.

he looks basically the same in John Boorman's 1981 film Excalibur as today.

Capt'n Midnight

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

The EU will have fragmented further and become largely irrelevant as an institution. European countries will continue to fall in power and prosperity relative to the rest of the world.

Russia will similarly fall in power due to its self imposed isolation. Possibly splitting apart along historic ethnic lines.

China will become more belligerent, stay totalitarian. India will be richer but not powerful.

The US I think will actually increase in power relative to the world and if Trump has his way will have a deep isolationist tint.

EU will get stronger. With the exception of the UK all you need to do is point at what's happening in Turkey , Russia and the central Asian states to convince everyone they are better off inside. And Russia already had that split.

China will continue to play the long game , it's better for business to gradually sneak up.

I could see Brazil being a big player if they exploit the full agricultural potential of the Amazon basin but that would take more than 50 years and would cause major environmental damage.

Much of the Amazon has been deforested already for cattle farms which has led to drying up of the western side, because most of the rain in the Amazon is recycled from the transpiration of trees. So to recap, the land isn't good enough for crops and water is going to be a huge problem.