Michael Creed and agriculture

f140

Was reading the Irish Examiner tonight at the table and was reading about Fine Gael looking to get rid of Enda Kenny before the summer. I personally think Enda is doing an alright job with the way the country is. Then we started discussing Michael Creed. He is hardly ever seen or heard of since becoming Minister of Agriculture. Is he much good? AT least Simon Coveney was seen out and about the whole time.

djmc

Its a bit soon to say but I think he might be better than coveney.
Coveney was all for agribusiness and didnt care too much about struggling small farmers waiting for their payments at the end of the year.
He spent too much time jetting to the us and elsewhere on trade missions that came to nothing for the farmer on the ground.

kk.man

djmc wrote: »

Its a bit soon to say but I think he might be better than coveney.
Coveney was all for agribusiness and didnt care too much about struggling small farmers waiting for their payments at the end of the year.
He spent too much time jetting to the us and elsewhere on trade missions that came to nothing for the farmer on the ground.

+1 ...Creed seems to be more on top of his brief. Enda is doing ok too..his two Princes appear to be egoistic at best.

ganmo

Was just saying similar last week.
Just after the election he was fairly vocal but after a few stupid announcements like the one saying we were going to double lamb output made look foolish. At the minute Andrew Doyle seems to be the face of the dept.

blue5000

kk.man wrote: »

+1 ...Creed seems to be more on top of his brief. Enda is doing ok too..his two Princes appear to be egoistic at best.

The two on RTE every second day? They must have a house together in Donnybrook. I'm surprised they weren't on the toyshow.

alps

f140 wrote: »

Was reading the Irish Examiner tonight at the table and was reading about Fine Gael looking to get rid of Enda Kenny before the summer. I personally think Enda is doing an alright job with the way the country is. Then we started discussing Michael Creed. He is hardly ever seen or heard of since becoming Minister of Agriculture. Is he much good? AT least Simon Coveney was seen out and about the whole time.

He tweets full time, and by that he seems to stay busy and get around, showing up on the ground directly to farmers in lots of cases..not hitting headlines on the papers though..

Coonagh

As someone who has met and lobbied both I can safely say Creed is an easier man to get a point across to. Coveney tended to lecture Creed listens and has a genuine interest and concern for farmers and agriculture.

White Clover

alps wrote: »

He tweets full time, and by that he seems to stay busy and get around, showing up on the ground directly to farmers in lots of cases..not hitting headlines on the papers though..

This is it here. The left leaning media of this country don't want to be drawing attention to any td/Minister actually getting on with the job.

Sam Kade

Enda is way better than Bertie. Imagine people want to bring him back and possibly make him Taoiseach again or maybe president, what planet are these people living on?

Bellview

djmc wrote:

Its a bit soon to say but I think he might be better than coveney. Coveney was all for agribusiness and didnt care too much about struggling small farmers waiting for their payments at the end of the year. He spent too much time jetting to the us and elsewhere on trade missions that came to nothing for the farmer on the ground.

When Coveney asked to help with slurry he told us bugger off. Creed is only in short time but has done more in a quiet way. I met coveney and he is super impressive talker but after watching him my view is that he is only a talker who takes whatever a civil servant says as gospel

Willfarman

Big improvement on the previous goof. But yes the lamb output statement was a tremendous gaffe and while the processers must of toasted it with brandy and cigars I don't think the aul sheep farmer is rushing to get a hip replaced so he can follow twice as many ewes!

The live cattle export is a welcome development. We just need it to be ramped up quickly.

The tillage boys don't seem to have got much of a hearing though.

MayoAreMagic

Sam Kade wrote: »

Enda is way better than Bertie. Imagine people want to bring him back and possibly make him Taoiseach again or maybe president, what planet are these people living on?

The reality is the Dubs want him back, and if not him then Varadkar. The same guys are the ones constantly on Kenny's back with noticeably personalised attacks on the guy, which are quite uncalled for. I think he has done a decent job and has tried to make hard calls for the good of the country. Im no Kenny fanboy or fine gael drone, but nobody gets everything right in any walk of life. What I do know is that if all our Taoisigh had had that same ethos down the years we would be better off now.

That is why I don't really get the whole 'clannish culchies' spiel that gets aimed at people from outside the pale - the dubs are the worst of the lot for wanting their own in.


Re creed, if he is doing his job and listening to farmers while doing so, then not being stuck in every photo is a good thing as far as Im concerned. Charisma is not a requirement of being a good minister, we forget that far too often.
I think he is shaping up better than Coveney, who, to my mind seemed to take quite a condescending attitude to farmers in general.

Hurling Hereford

f140 wrote: »

Was reading the Irish Examiner tonight at the table and was reading about Fine Gael looking to get rid of Enda Kenny before the summer. I personally think Enda is doing an alright job with the way the country is. Then we started discussing Michael Creed. He is hardly ever seen or heard of since becoming Minister of Agriculture. Is he much good? AT least Simon Coveney was seen out and about the whole time.

I have spotted Mick Creed at a few different farming events. He doesn't believe in bringing an entourage with him to these events unlike Simon C.

Speaking to one of the Mrs' friends who works in Ag House & she had nothing good things to say about Creed. He's less high profile than Coveney but works every bit as hard, if not harder than his predecessor