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Presenters constantly using the present tense

  • 29-11-2016 8:31pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 560 ✭✭✭


    Its driving me mad and just wondering if its all in my head.

    In the couple of shows I listen to regularly the presenters constantly describe past events in the present tense.

    An example might be say they're asking a guy about what he saw yesterday: "so you're walking along and you're happy. Cars are driving past. The dogs are barking. What do you see?"

    They hardly ever use the past tense. Is it just me?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭maxwell smart


    sbs2010 wrote: »
    Its driving me mad and just wondering if its all in my head.

    In the couple of shows I listen to regularly the presenters constantly describe past events in the present tense.

    An example might be say they're asking a guy about what he saw yesterday: "so you're walking along and you're happy. Cars are driving past. The dogs are barking. What do you see?"

    They hardly ever use the past tense. Is it just me?

    Don't you mean 'was it just you'?


    I'm getting my coat....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 642 ✭✭✭real rocker


    sbs2010 wrote: »
    Its driving me mad and just wondering if its all in my head.

    In the couple of shows I listen to regularly the presenters constantly describe past events in the present tense.

    An example might be say they're asking a guy about what he saw yesterday: "so you're walking along and you're happy. Cars are driving past. The dogs are barking. What do you see?"

    They hardly ever use the past tense. Is it just me?

    Christmas is coming so PRESENT DAY ( or TENSE ) must be hanging about. Nearer the day I will talk of past times a la Dickens.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,404 ✭✭✭✭sKeith


    They are describing it in the re-living it sense. Picturing themselves back in the time (first person or third person) and describing what is going on around them at that (present) time.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 82 ✭✭Paddy Porter


    sKeith wrote: »
    They are describing it in the re-living it sense. Picturing themselves back in the time (first person or third person) and describing what is going on around them at that (present) time.

    Whats with this latest fad about answering every question with a sentence beginning with "SO" ?

    "What are you doing to protect on-line customers"?

    "So we are setting up a help line so freeking complicated and annoying that only the most obnoxious and obstinate valued customers actually get to be heard".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Yourself isit


    Using so isn't new at all.

    The historical present is also ok.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,407 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Presenters use the present tense.
    Pasters use the past tense.

    Simple.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,061 ✭✭✭nomdeboardie


    Whats with this latest fad about answering every question with a sentence beginning with "SO" ?

    "What are you doing to protect on-line customers"?

    "So we are setting up a help line so freeking complicated and annoying that only the most obnoxious and obstinate valued customers actually get to be heard".
    So I'm blaming Zuckerberg :mad:...
    Using so isn't new at all.

    The historical present is also ok.
    ...regardless


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 82 ✭✭Paddy Porter


    So I'm blaming Zuckerberg :mad:...


    ...regardless

    Using so isn't new ...but using it at the start of a reply is definitely the D4 equivelent to "lookit" in rural speak.

    Heard that uber culchie Willie O'Dea on radio the other evening and every reply..well nearly every reply ...was prefaced with a "Lookit".

    "Matchup" is the latest by the way......a key "Matchup" will be between ....

    I dunno ....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 201 ✭✭Howitzer the 5th


    Using so isn't new ...but using it at the start of a reply is definitely the D4 equivelent to "lookit" in rural speak.

    Heard that uber culchie Willie O'Dea on radio the other evening and every reply..well nearly every reply ...was prefaced with a "Lookit".

    "Matchup" is the latest by the way......a key "Matchup" will be between ....

    I dunno ....

    "uber culchie". Oh what a time to be alive! The era of the "uber culchie" has arrived.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,101 ✭✭✭Max Headroom


    "So, i'm like talkin to my actual mom, an she's like , omg you can not be serious"....its the way people tawk now...its Americish....... we've actually lost our actual identity..:)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,404 ✭✭✭✭sKeith


    "So, i'm like talkin to my actual mom, an she's like , omg you can not be serious"....its the way people tawk now...its Americish....... we've actually lost our actual identity..:)


    Your 'actual' mom is 8 years old? I hope you sent her to her room without supper.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Rumpy Pumpy


    Using so isn't new ...but using it at the start of a reply is definitely the D4 equivelent to "lookit" in rural speak.

    Heard that uber culchie Willie O'Dea on radio the other evening and every reply..well nearly every reply ...was prefaced with a "Lookit".

    "Matchup" is the latest by the way......a key "Matchup" will be between ....

    I dunno ....

    You'll have to be keeping a keen ear on the opinion box for the utterances of "going forward". What the fruck does it mean, Paddy?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Yourself isit


    "So, i'm like talkin to my actual mom, an she's like , omg you can not be serious"....its the way people tawk now...its Americish....... we've actually lost our actual identity..:)

    No. it's Irish. We've been starting sentences with so for years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,962 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    No. it's Irish. We've been starting sentences with so for years.

    No, we have not.

    This is a newish phenomenon from the social media classes.

    No way was the use of 'so' to start sentences so prevelant in the past.

    It's like the 'done' phenomenon back in the day " are you guys done there?" " yeah we're done"

    Blame computers and the geeks who work with them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,275 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    Using so isn't new at all.

    The historical present is also ok.

    I thought it was a new phenomenon. When did we start using 'so' at the beginning of sentence in this way?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,962 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    bobbyss wrote: »
    I thought it was a new phenomenon. When did we start using 'so' at the beginning of sentence in this way?

    It is new, ignore anyone who says not.

    This has crept in over the last say five years,basically with dudes starting threads like:

    "So I spent €200 on drink last night.........

    " So reccomend me a good restaurant......


    That kind of rubbish then like 'going forward' the in crowd latched on to it

    "How do you see your company progressing........?


    "So we have done a root and branch......."


    Terribly annoying.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭me_right_one


    I'm with you OP. It drives me fcukin mental. They constantly use it in American documentaries on Sky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,275 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    It is new, ignore anyone who says not.

    This has crept in over the last say five years,basically with dudes starting threads like:

    "So I spent €200 on drink last night.........

    " So reccomend me a good restaurant......


    That kind of rubbish then like 'going forward' the in crowd latched on to it

    "How do you see your company progressing........?


    "So we have done a root and branch......."


    Terribly annoying.

    It's more than annoying. I also can't stand people who:

    begin sentences with 'Look... ' (Aiden O'Brien Horse Trainer and a lot of GAA folk)
    begin sentences with 'Listen... ' (Roy Keane former Capt Man United and all round thug)
    say 'everyting' (most GAA folk and a huge number of TDs)
    say 'dis and dat' (Bertie take a bow, a huge number of GAA folk and a lot of TDs)
    use rising intonation finishing in the interrogative? like US teenage comedy shows ? (Miriam O'Callaghan and a host of others. How come some adults are afflicted with this do you know?
    use the word random as in 'some random guy'. Again a teenage phenomenon. Depressingly, I know a few people in their thirties who use random in this fashion and my heart sinks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,962 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    bobbyss wrote: »
    It's more than annoying. I also can't stand people who:

    begin sentences with 'Look... ' (Aiden O'Brien Horse Trainer and a lot of GAA folk)
    begin sentences with 'Listen... ' (Roy Keane former Capt Man United and all round thug)
    say 'everyting' (most GAA folk and a huge number of TDs)
    say 'dis and dat' (Bertie take a bow, a huge number of GAA folk and a lot of TDs)
    use rising intonation finishing in the interrogative? like US teenage comedy shows ? (Miriam O'Callaghan and a host of others. How come some adults are afflicted with this do you know?
    use the word random as in 'some random guy'. Again a teenage phenomenon. Depressingly, I know a few people in their thirties who use random in this fashion and my heart sinks.

    I feel your pain Bobbser, yes I do.

    If I could be so bold as to add another, sorry, anuuther, pet hate!!

    Those people who pronounce 'o' as 'U' Such as 'companies' as in 'cuummpanies' etc

    Worst offenders, that one who does 'It says in the papers' Fiona Kelly I think, also Conor Brophy of RTE has a very bad case of it, Des Cahill is anuuther ( sic) one.

    Where did that horrible accent spring from?

    Dalkey DL area I suspect.


    Terrible stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,275 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    I feel your pain Bobbser, yes I do.

    If I could be so bold as to add another, sorry, anuuther, pet hate!!

    Those people who pronounce 'o' as 'U' Such as 'companies' as in 'cuummpanies' etc

    Worst offenders, that one who does 'It says in the papers' Fiona Kelly I think, also Conor Brophy of RTE has a very bad case of it, Des Cahill is anuuther ( sic) one.

    Where did that horrible accent spring from?

    Dalkey DL area I suspect.


    Terrible stuff.

    Brendan, Brendan, Brendan

    There is a sports presenter on RTE, I don't know her name, she also does a sports quiz on TV as well. She particularly likes harse racing.. She may be from down the country.

    How about TDs, usually from the country as well, who hope to be government ministers wan day.

    Speaking of Mark Killilea . Former MEP (unless I am mistaken). He was from down the country as well. I do not know how much of a European outlook he had or what his contribution to European affairs was either but on his first day in Strasbourg he met a French MEP who said 'Bon Jour'. To which Mark replied: Howya Bon, I'm Markeen.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,962 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    bobbyss wrote: »
    Brendan, Brendan, Brendan

    There is a sports presenter on RTE, I don't know her name, she also does a sports quiz on TV as well. She particularly likes harse racing.. She may be from down the country.

    How about TDs, usually from the country as well, who hope to be government ministers wan day.

    Speaking of Mark Killilea . Former MEP (unless I am mistaken). He was from down the country as well. I do not know how much of a European outlook he had or what his contribution to European affairs was either but on his first day in Strasbourg he met a French MEP who said 'Bon Jour'. To which Mark replied: Howya Bon, I'm Markeen.

    Has to be our Jackie?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 dxman105


    bobbyss wrote: »
    It is new, ignore anyone who says not.
    begin sentences with   'Look... '  (Aiden O'Brien Horse Trainer and a lot of GAA folk)
    begin sentences with 'Listen... ' (Roy Keane former Capt Man United and all round thug)
    say 'everyting' (most GAA folk and a huge number of TDs)
    say 'dis and dat' (Bertie take a bow, a huge number of GAA folk and a lot of TDs)
    David Cameron used to very often reply to a question with the word "Look" such as:
    "Look, we've put together a package of measures to ensure that this doesn't happen again...."
    He also promised to stay on as PM even if the UK voted out of the EU, and trigger Article 50 the next morning. Both those statements turned out to be lies.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭me_right_one


    I feel your pain Bobbser, yes I do.

    If I could be so bold as to add another, sorry, anuuther, pet hate!!

    Those people who pronounce 'o' as 'U' Such as 'companies' as in 'cuummpanies' etc

    Worst offenders, that one who does 'It says in the papers' Fiona Kelly I think, also Conor Brophy of RTE has a very bad case of it, Des Cahill is anuuther ( sic) one.

    Where did that horrible accent spring from?

    Dalkey DL area I suspect.


    Terrible stuff.


    Cunnur Hunte, URR-T-E news


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,962 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Cunnur Hunte, URR-T-E news

    Spot on Right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,839 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Whats with this latest fad about answering every question with a sentence beginning with "SO" ?

    "What are you doing to protect on-line customers"?

    "So we are setting up a help line so freeking complicated and annoying that only the most obnoxious and obstinate valued customers actually get to be heard".

    I think it became popular when channels started showing repeats of 'Friends' on a daily basis.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 82 ✭✭Paddy Porter


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    I think it became popular when channels started showing repeats of 'Friends' on a daily basis.

    Mmm not so sure ...seems to very much D4 IFSC type of lingo..professional thirty somethings are the biggest offenders and mainly female.

    But...you could very well be correct....


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭me_right_one


    There should be some sort of elocution exam before being allowed to be on TV or radio. Mattie McGrath is the only famous person in the media with a genuinely neutral Irish accent.


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