TB Test date change

Gilroy

Is it possible to change your annual Tb test date?

Mine is in June at the minute but looking to change to Feb.

How do you change?

Also if you had no cattle for example and then you bought 20 in Jan 2017... and They were all in test until Nov 2017. Would you still need to do an annual test if plan to sell these cattle in September???

Interested to know fact about doing a herd test if they already are in test

Count Mondego

They're gone very tough on this. I looked for a three week extension and jumped through hoops, lie like fook and claim the auld lad was sick and I was working abroad. Nearly didn't work. I'd say you've no hope of moving it six months.

Gilroy

Count Mondego wrote: »

They're gone very tough on this. I looked for a three week extension and jumped through hoops, lie like fook and claim the auld lad was sick and I was working abroad. Nearly didn't work. I'd say you've no hope of moving it six months.

Who did you change it with. Your veterinary department?

Count Mondego

Gilroy wrote: »

Who did you change it with. Your veterinary department?

Ya, DVO

orm0nd

I think OP wants to move test forward instead of back. might'nt such a big issue.

ask the dvo & explain your situation,

vets are usually flat out in feb. so might'nt suit them

patsy_mccabe

Funny, but I would have said back instead of forward, as in move from June BACK to Feb. I know people who have done this, so shouldn't be a problem. Agree that vets like to test in their quite season alright.

Gilroy

Also if you had no cattle for example and then you bought 20 in Jan 2017... and They were all in test until Nov 2017. Would you still need to do an annual test if i plan to sell these cattle in September???

tanko

Gilroy wrote: »

Also if you had no cattle for example and then you bought 20 in Jan 2017... and They were all in test until Nov 2017. Would you still need to do an annual test if i plan to sell these cattle in September???

If your annual test is due in February, you have to test all cattle on your farm then even if they were all tested in a previous herd a month earlier as far as i know.

tanko

If you know that you won't have any cattle on your farm in December, you could arrange your annual test for this month, when they send out the notification you send it back saying there's no cattle on your farm. Then you buy your cattle in January and sell them in September without having to test them on your farm.

This scenario seems too good to be true, I'd imagne there's some snag with it.

Gilroy

tanko wrote: »

If your annual test is due in February, you have to test all cattle on your farm then even if they were all tested in a previous herd a month earlier as far as i know.

OK that's fine. Needed to know if you had to do annual test even if all cattle was still in test.

Let's say I change annual herd test to Dec 2017 and sell all my cattle in Nov 2017. Assuming that all my cattle are still in test from previous herd owner. What then because there no cattle on the farm in Dec 2017

tanko

Gilroy wrote: »

OK that's fine. Needed to know if you had to do annual test even if all cattle was still in test.

Let's say I change annual herd test to Dec 2017 and sell all my cattle in Nov 2017. Assuming that all my cattle are still in test from previous herd owner. What then because there no cattle on the farm in Dec 2017

When you get the notification from the dept to do your test there an option on the form to say that you have no cattle at that time and just send it back to them.
If your asking whether you can arrange your annual herd test so that you can buy and sell cattle without ever having to test them in your herd, I don't know if this is possible. Like I said , it seems too good to be true.

Gilroy

Thanks tanko. I will be clearing out all cattle be Xmas this year and buying back in from Jan 2017.

I work part time of the farm so need the least amount of work, such as herd testing during the year.

Assuming that all my cattle are still in test from previous herd owner when i buy in Jan/Feb. Then i should be able to sell these around Septenber without having to do a herd test.

Thats if i move herd test to December time.

tanko

Gilroy wrote: »

Thanks tanko. I will be clearing out all cattle be Xmas this year and buying back in from Jan 2017.

I work part time of the farm so need the least amount of work, such as herd testing during the year.

Assuming that all my cattle are still in test from previous herd owner when i buy in Jan/Feb. Then i should be able to sell these around Septenber without having to do a herd test.

Thats if i move herd test to December time.

Best check that out with your vet, I'm not sure.

Gilroy

The vet will say talk to your local DVO office i'd say. You nominate your vet to test, the DVO looks after the test dates i think

J.O. Farmer

I think tanko is right it is too good to be true. I think when you send back the notification that you have no cattle that'll be fine but once you buy cattle you'll get another notification to test. Failure to have one herd test a year would probably see your herd number locked up or at least so you couldnt sell.
You best check with the DVO but I wouldn't advise identifying yourself as you try to find out if there's a loophole to get out of the annual round test.

Gilroy

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

I think tanko is right it is too good to be true. I think when you send back the notification that you have no cattle that'll be fine but once you buy cattle you'll get another notification to test. Failure to have one herd test a year would probably see your herd number locked up or at least so you couldnt sell.
You best check with the DVO but I wouldn't advise identifying yourself as you try to find out if there's a loophole to get out of the annual round test.

Honestly not looking to get out of testing, just normally buy cattle in test so limit the amount to test before I resell them. Thanks anyway.

Gilroy

Seen this,
There is no restriction on moving animals on after they have moved into your herd once the animal is still in test.

If, however, you move more than 100 animals in a 12-month period within 30 days of buying them, then you will be regarded as a cattle dealer under the terms of the relevant national legislation. 

Your local DVO will answer any questions you have about the process of being approved as a cattle dealer. "

reply from Dept on another website 

CallofGuti

Count Mondego wrote: »

Ya, DVO

I got it pulled it three weeks. Needed a good case but all grand.

Lizard_Moon

Hi OP
There is usually no problem moving your test earlier in the year. Your vet just had to apply to the DVO- we just fax a request in.
All animals present in the herd on the day of the test must be tested, regardless of when they were tested.
The only exception is calves under 6 weeks of age that were BORN IN THE HERD.
LM