Getting Fitted For New Clubs

fred funk }{

Was strongly thinking of getting fitted for a new set of decent irons/driver. Does anyone recommend anywhere that aren't just out to sell you the dearest gear or gear they want to flog?

Maybe I'm being too harsh but don't fancy going into one on the main shops to get fitted. Don't mind spending a bit once it's in the right place. Thanks.

the lawman

Make an appointment with Foregolf and you cover all your doubts. Best in the business.

fred funk }{

the lawman wrote: »

Make an appointment with Foregolf and you cover all your doubts. Best in the business.

Really interested in hearing how much of a difference getting fitted made to your game and how much does it cost to get it done. Cheers

mighty magpie

Recently attempted to get fitted.

Couldn't bring myself to upgrade irons to the new ping G series for €600 (currently using a 6 year old set of clevelands).

I liked the feel of them, narrow dispersion and was getting good distance on the monitor but after bringing in my old set, I didn't see any difference that would merit €600. The salesman tried mentioned that the Ping 7 iron was 6 yards greater (on average) than the cleveland but when looking at the specs the ping was 2 degrees flatter which was the only factor causing the added distance.

I tried numerous shaft types but nothing that bettered my old set so I would encourage you to bring your current set for comparison.

ShivasIrons

the lawman wrote: »

Make an appointment with Foregolf and you cover all your doubts. Best in the business.

They are the best in the business at marketing. Great at getting people into gear they want to flog. Way too many coming out of there with very similar equipment. Shafts that are too light and too stiff in particular.

the lawman

fred funk }{ wrote: »

Really interested in hearing how much of a difference getting fitted made to your game and how much does it cost to get it done. Cheers

No problem. I have no affiliation to them other then the service I received.

I was fitted for a 60 minute session but went on for a bit longer as my fitter wasn't 100% happy with the shaft weight. We got it eventually. The fitting is €100 on top of the clubs and to me it was money well spent as you can walk away in confidence these clubs are built to your swing. You really cannot get that anywhere else.

There was no pressure to buy as you actually walk away with your specs and you contact them back to complete the payment if you want to go ahead with order. To back this up I had a driver fitting there 2 years ago and I hit my own driver better than anything in stock so I stayed where I was and they couldn't have been happier.

It's not really just the confidence though, it's also the whole process. These guys have been on tour and themselves are serious golfers so I picked up several tips the few times I've been there that I've brought into my game.

I'm not even mentioning the customer service you get as it's almost secondary but you are treated like the most important person in the building from start to finish.

I'm completely obsessed with my golf and I wouldn't dream of going anywhere else. Why take the risk?

benny79

the lawman wrote: »

No problem. I have no affiliation to them other then the service I received.

I was fitted for a 60 minute session but went on for a bit longer as my fitter wasn't 100% happy with the shaft weight. We got it eventually. The fitting is €100 on top of the clubs and to me it was money well spent as you can walk away in confidence these clubs are built to your swing. You really cannot get that anywhere else.

There was no pressure to buy as you actually walk away with your specs and you contact them back to complete the payment if you want to go ahead with order. To back this up I had a driver fitting there 2 years ago and I hit my own driver better than anything in stock so I stayed where I was and they couldn't have been happier.

It's not really just the confidence though, it's also the whole process. These guys have been on tour and themselves are serious golfers so I picked up several tips the few times I've been there that I've brought into my game.

I'm not even mentioning the customer service you get as it's almost secondary but you are treated like the most important person in the building from start to finish.

I'm completely obsessed with my golf and I wouldn't dream of going anywhere else. Why take the risk?

I second this I was always chopping and changing clubs went to them 2 years ago and still have all the clubs the recommended and my pro actually commented on how nice they were! Taught the first thing they would change was my driver (R11) was hitting it **** at the time and on the day, but they said they couldnt better it.. I got irons and a rescue my 3 wood they said was good for the time been... top service expensive but well worth it IMO

kyleman

ShivasIrons wrote: »

the lawman wrote: »

Make an appointment with Foregolf and you cover all your doubts. Best in the business.

They are the best in the business at marketing. Great at getting people into gear they want to flog. Way too many coming out of there with very similar equipment. Shafts that are too light and too stiff in particular.

Where would you recommend so Shivas?

ShivasIrons

kyleman wrote: »

Where would you recommend so Shivas?

Where is the golfer based?

fred funk }{

ShivasIrons wrote: »

Where is the golfer based?

I'm based in dublin/wicklow.

ShivasIrons

The best club builder in Ireland is Robert Cooke of Golf Ballistix in Lisburn

kyleman

ShivasIrons wrote: »

The best club builder in Ireland is Robert Cooke of Golf Ballistix in Lisburn

Thanks Shivas. Can you recommend any builder in 5 he Midlands?

BigChap1759

the lawman wrote: »

No problem. I have no affiliation to them other then the service I received.

I was fitted for a 60 minute session but went on for a bit longer as my fitter wasn't 100% happy with the shaft weight. We got it eventually. The fitting is €100 on top of the clubs and to me it was money well spent as you can walk away in confidence these clubs are built to your swing. You really cannot get that anywhere else.

There was no pressure to buy as you actually walk away with your specs and you contact them back to complete the payment if you want to go ahead with order. To back this up I had a driver fitting there 2 years ago and I hit my own driver better than anything in stock so I stayed where I was and they couldn't have been happier.

It's not really just the confidence though, it's also the whole process. These guys have been on tour and themselves are serious golfers so I picked up several tips the few times I've been there that I've brought into my game.

I'm not even mentioning the customer service you get as it's almost secondary but you are treated like the most important person in the building from start to finish.

I'm completely obsessed with my golf and I wouldn't dream of going anywhere else. Why take the risk?

Since when did Foregolf start giving you your specs to walk away with - never did this before??

the lawman

BigChap1759 wrote: »

Since when did Foregolf start giving you your specs to walk away with - never did this before??

What I'm talking about is your trackman numbers with old and with new

BigChap1759

the lawman wrote: »

What I'm talking about is your trackman numbers with old and with new

Thanks for clarifying - you said "There was no pressure to buy as you actually walk away with your specs" which is a very different thing from giving you the trackman numbers and is misleading, as they do not give you your specs to buy elsewhere, if you are going to Foregolf then you are buying the clubs from them after the fitting.

the lawman

Cool.

But I'm pretty sure the word 'specs' can mean more than club 'specs'. I did mean trackman specs in this instance and in no way was I being purposely misleading.

Not sure what your last point is trying to say at all but when you leave FG you are in no way definitely buying from them.

First Up

BigChap1759 wrote: »

Thanks for clarifying - you said "There was no pressure to buy as you actually walk away with your specs" which is a very different thing from giving you the trackman numbers and is misleading, as they do not give you your specs to buy elsewhere, if you are going to Foregolf then you are buying the clubs from them after the fitting.

Of course they will want you to buy the clubs from them but that doesn't mean they are only interested in selling clubs. I went through their whole analysis and at the end, they recommended I stay with what I have, as they still worked well and the improvement from a new spec would be marginal.

Dbu

First Up wrote: »

Of course they will want you to buy the clubs from them but that doesn't mean they are only interested in selling clubs. I went through their whole analysis and at the end, they recommended I stay with what I have, as they still worked well and the improvement from a new spec would be marginal.

I suppose they are still charging you €100 per hour anyway, so they make money whatever the result

Henry Ford III

What handicap are you OP?

Unless you have a swing that repeats frequently and accurately custom fitting will be a waste of time and money.

It's a marketing con imho.

charlieIRL

Henry Ford III wrote: »

What handicap are you OP?

Unless you have a swing that repeats frequently and accurately custom fitting will be a waste of time and money.

It's a marketing con imho.

I don't know about that, I got fitted and have to say it has greatly improved my game tee to green. Am still wasting / throwing away shots when close to the fringe or say 10m from the green but have been working on it but I have to say my game is in a better place than what it was before I got fitted.

Henry Ford III

charlieIRL wrote: »

I don't know about that, I got fitted and have to say it has greatly improved my game tee to green. Am still wasting / throwing away shots when close to the fringe or say 10m from the green but have been working on it but I have to say my game is in a better place than what it was before I got fitted.

It's as likely be down to better technique, or confidence as anything else.

Just my own view.

Golfgorfield

Henry Ford III wrote: »

What handicap are you OP?

Unless you have a swing that repeats frequently and accurately custom fitting will be a waste of time and money.

It's a marketing con imho.

Is fitting your shoe size a marketing con?

CalamariFritti

Sorry Henry I don't buy that either.

Now it may not make as big a difference as some make you believe....especially when you already playing clubs that suit you pretty well.
But a lot of people start with hand me downs or stuff from adverts. Which can be too long short heavy light whippy stiff etc.

Basic fitting is really a must and shaft plays a huge role, too.
The analogy to shoe size is not off the mark.

d2ww

Henry Ford III wrote: »

What handicap are you OP?

Unless you have a swing that repeats frequently and accurately custom fitting will be a waste of time and money.

It's a marketing con imho.

Oh dear, you'll upset all the tech fanboys with that kind of talk

First Up

d2ww wrote: »

Oh dear, you'll upset all the tech fanboys with that kind of talk

If people I'm playing against want to use clubs that don't suit them, why should I worry?

Domo1982

Golfgorfield wrote: »

Is fitting your shoe size a marketing con?

I know you're trying to be facetious but really how is this the same? Think about it:rolleyes:

BraveDonut

I had a session for a driver fitting a week or so back with Foregolf.
(Club hasn't been delivered yet).

I thought the whole process was amazing. It was something that I did for myself as a treat.

I had a plan going in and I was upfront in telling them what I wanted:

1. My weak/bad shot with driver was losing it to a big, high fade.
2. I didn't like the feel off my current driver - even when I hit it well - and much preferred the feel/feedback off my 3 wood.
3. I wanted to walk out knowing that I had absolutely the right tool for the job in my hands.

I feel that I got what I needed. I felt great hitting drives by the end of the session and it gave me an amazing sense of confidence.

The negative was that I thought I could really just get a new shaft for what is a relatively modern driver, but they did sell me a whole new driver. However, they didn't try to sell me the most expensive brand they had.

fred funk }{

Henry Ford III wrote: »

What handicap are you OP?

Unless you have a swing that repeats frequently and accurately custom fitting will be a waste of time and money.

It's a marketing con imho.

6. I'm using off the shelf clubs and I'm looking to improve my game and wondering is getting properly fitted worth it.

Donal55

BraveDonut wrote: »

I had a session for a driver fitting a week or so back with Foregolf.
(Club hasn't been delivered yet).

I thought the whole process was amazing. It was something that I did for myself as a treat.

I had a plan going in and I was upfront in telling them what I wanted:

1. My weak/bad shot with driver was losing it to a big, high fade.
2. I didn't like the feel off my current driver - even when I hit it well - and much preferred the feel/feedback off my 3 wood.
3. I wanted to walk out knowing that I had absolutely the right tool for the job in my hands.

I feel that I got what I needed. I felt great hitting drives by the end of the session and it gave me an amazing sense of confidence.

The negative was that I thought I could really just get a new shaft for what is a relatively modern driver, but they did sell me a whole new driver. However, they didn't try to sell me the most expensive brand they had.

Could your problem with the driver be equally solved by €100 spent on some lessons?

Mantis Toboggan

I'd be hoping to get fitted for next season but the feedback here isn't exactly positive.

They way I'm looking at it is i need to get new clubs so might as well get clubs that suit me.

Why do people think it's a con?
Surely they know what they're doing?

Has anyone had negative experiences in foregolf?

the lawman

Tyson Fury wrote: »

I'd be hoping to get fitted for next season but the feedback here isn't exactly positive.

They way I'm looking at it is i need to get new clubs so might as well get clubs that suit me.

Why do people think it's a con?
Surely they know what they're doing?

Has anyone had negative experiences in foregolf?

The only one that will lose out if you don't go is yourself. You are in the best hands in the country with FG.

It's funny but you hear all these people saying it's a con etc but I've yet to see anyone that's actually been to FG say a bad word about them. It's all he said she said stuff.

I love golf and I love money. There is nobody I would trust more than these boys.

Golfgorfield

Domo1982 wrote: »

I know you're trying to be facetious but really how is this the same? Think about it:rolleyes:

Not exactly the same yes but i see it.


I have a unique size/swing
I have a unique size foot

i buy shoes that fit
i buy golf clubs that fit

BraveDonut

Donal55 wrote: »

Could your problem with the driver be equally solved by €100 spent on some lessons?

Yes - and I have had lessons.
I am aware of the cause of the issue but it can appear in my game due to a lack of concentration or tiring.
I was more concerned about points 2 and 3 but every little helps.

Anyway - I REALLY enjoyed the session and was happy with the results.

jimjim12

Why all the negativity. Luddites, please don't knock something until you try it. If you tried it and it doesn't work for fine, then give an account of what you didn't like and why it didn't suit you.
I believe custom fitting works. You don't have to go to Foregolf, many golf pro's out there offering the service, but Foregolf are by far the best.
Inter county hurlers have their hurleys custom made to suit them. Different lengths, weight, shapes etc. Snooker players the same. Tennis, baseball the list goes on. Why would it not work for golf?

Domo1982

Golfgorfield wrote: »

Not exactly the same yes but i see it.


I have a unique size/swing
I have a unique size foot

i buy shoes that fit
i buy golf clubs that fit

Nope talking rubbish still:)

Sure a size 9 Nike runner is not unique in this context. Its off the shelf if anything, like most sets of clubs that are bought?

First Up

Domo1982 wrote:

Sure a size 9 Nike runner is not unique in this context. Its off the shelf if anything, like most sets of clubs that are bought?

Not if you are serious about your running, or covering long distances.

Domo1982

First Up wrote: »

Not if you are serious about your running, or covering long distances.

Agreed but pronation was not mentioned. Still not the same anyway.Vast majority of people have successful and enjoyable running careers without ever getting fitted for specialized footwear.

Fitting it not needed for 98% of the golfing population in my opinion

BigChap1759

Domo1982 wrote: »

Nope talking rubbish still:)

Sure a size 9 Nike runner is not unique in this context. Its off the shelf if anything, like most sets of clubs that are bought?

We get it - you don't believe in custom fitting, now, can you leave the thread to those that are interested and want to hear more about it, positive or negative and not just your own uninformed opinions?

Domo1982

BigChap1759 wrote: »

We get it - you don't believe in custom fitting, now, can you leave the thread to those that are interested and want to hear more about it, positive or negative and not just your own uninformed opinions?

lol - relax the pants there pal. I have been fitted for Irons actually and play off 1 so its hardly uninformed. At my level you're looking for .% of improvement. That where custom fitting can help or not. I've also done 27 marathons as a by the by.

At circa 7.5 and potentially plateauing you should be living by the chipping and putting green and not looking to make that 'big leap' via a custom fit.

Hope you're more comfortable with that feedback

charlieIRL

RELAX EVERYONE, thanks.

BigChap1759

Domo1982 wrote: »

lol - relax the pants there pal. I have been fitted for Irons actually and play off 1 so its hardly uninformed. At my level you're looking for .% of improvement. That where custom fitting can help or not. I've also done 27 marathons as a by the by.

At circa 7.5 and potentially plateauing you should be living by the chipping and putting green and not looking to make that 'big leap' via a custom fit.

Hope you're more comfortable with that feedback

Consider me impressed by your post :rolleyes:

Henry Ford III

A higher handicap will have grip, address, posture, and various swing faults which can and will vary day to day and sometimes hole to hole. Custom fitting such a player will not help at all when they make a swing materially different to the one displayed on the fitting day.

A low handicap player can and probably will benefit however as their action tends to repeat much better and their margins of error reduce. A really good player can hit fine shots with almost any kind of club. They just adjust.

p.s. Custom fitted clubs are valueless used, but that's a minor point.

First Up

Domo1982 wrote:

Agreed but pronation was not mentioned. Still not the same anyway.Vast majority of people have successful and enjoyable running careers without ever getting fitted for specialized footwear.

And a lot of runners get injured.

Domo1982 wrote:

Fitting it not needed for 98% of the golfing population in my opinion

So are you saying that all clubs are the same?

Domo1982

First Up wrote: »

And a lot of runners get injured.


So are you saying that all clubs are the same?

Things getting mixed up a little now. Clubs are of course not all the same. The point is majority of golfers will play to top of their ability with off the shelf clubs i believe.

With regards runners getting injured - That's true for sure but are you saying that off the shelf clubs are more likely to injure a player than a custom fitted set?

Domo1982

Henry Ford III wrote: »

A higher handicap will have grip, address, posture, and various swing faults which can and will vary day to day and sometimes hole to hole. Custom fitting such a player will not help at all when they make a swing materially different to the one displayed on the fitting day.

A low handicap player can and probably will benefit however as their action tends to repeat much better and their margins of error reduce. A really good player can hit fine shots with almost any kind of club. They just adjust.

p.s. Custom fitted clubs are valueless used, but that's a minor point.

Sensible post Henry:)

Domo1982

BigChap1759 wrote: »

Consider me impressed by your post :rolleyes:

Appreciate it - PM me if you want to go for a beer sometime

First Up

Domo1982 wrote:

With regards runners getting injured - That's true for sure but are you saying that off the shelf clubs are more likely to injure a player than a custom fitted set?

No; nor am I saying that that you will shoot a lower score in properly fitted footwear.

ShivasIrons

For those who think there is no need for fitted clubs, this means that using any club will allow any player to play to the best of their ability.

So an average 15 handicap golfer using Rory McIlroy's clubs will still play to a 15 handicap? Unlikely. Their performance will suffer and scores will go up.

However the corollary isn't true, Rory McIlroy using the average 15 handicapper's club will perform close to his peak. The higher your skill level the easier it is to use any club, the skilled player will figure a way to make the clubs work.

The average golfer doesn't have the skill to do this and needs clubs that suit more than the better player. The interesting thing is the better player sees the value in fitted clubs more than the average player.

Clubs can be easily retro fitted too, getting a fitting doesn't mean a whole new set of clubs. 90%-95% of golfers will need an alteration in some form to off the rack clubs. save yourself time and don't bother with them in the first place.

Golfgorfield

ShivasIrons wrote: »

For those who think there is no need for fitted clubs, this means that using any club will allow any player to play to the best of their ability.

So an average 15 handicap golfer using Rory McIlroy's clubs will still play to a 15 handicap? Unlikely. Their performance will suffer and scores will go up.

However the corollary isn't true, Rory McIlroy using the average 15 handicapper's club will perform close to his peak. The higher your skill level the easier it is to use any club, the skilled player will figure a way to make the clubs work.

The average golfer doesn't have the skill to do this and needs clubs that suit more than the better player. The interesting thing is the better player sees the value in fitted clubs more than the average player.

Clubs can be easily retro fitted too, getting a fitting doesn't mean a whole new set of clubs. 90%-95% of golfers will need an alteration in some form to off the rack clubs. save yourself time and don't bother with them in the first place.

Absolute crazy stuff, im a low hcap, and have used rentals socially on holidays, an absolute nightmare. Someone like Rory whos gear is finely tuned would have zero distance control, zero dispersion control and immediately lose confidence in his clubs. rendering him nowhere near his peak.

So Nico Rosberg could drive close to his peak in a sunday banger racing car?
Come off it.

ShivasIrons

Golfgorfield wrote: »

Absolute crazy stuff, im a low hcap, and have used rentals socially on holidays, an absolute nightmare. Someone like Rory whos gear is finely tuned would have zero distance control, zero dispersion control and immediately lose confidence in his clubs. rendering him nowhere near his peak.

So Nico Rosberg could drive close to his peak in a sunday banger racing car?
Come off it.

You don't think you could break par with a set of regular shafted irons and woods? I know I can, I won't play to my best but I'll still play pretty well

Hoof Hearted2

Golfgorfield wrote: »

Absolute crazy stuff, im a low hcap, and have used rentals socially on holidays, an absolute nightmare. Someone like Rory whos gear is finely tuned would have zero distance control, zero dispersion control and immediately lose confidence in his clubs. rendering him nowhere near his peak.

So Nico Rosberg could drive close to his peak in a sunday banger racing car?
Come off it.

No Nico Rosberg wouldn't, but Lewis Hamilton or Michael Schumacher in his prime would.