Haye vs Bellew

DylanAFC

Confirmed for March 4th in the O2 in London at heavyweight.

djhaxman

DylanAFC wrote: »

Confirmed for March 4th in the O2 in London at heavyweight.

I'm kinda looking forward to this, hopefully Haye shuts Bellew up for once.

Halloween Jack

pac_man wrote: »

Can't take this fight seriously. It just smells of a money grab. I await Bellew to exercise his new found hatred for David Haye, assisted by his recently acquired Hollywood acting skills that will put the WWE to shame. Expect plenty of people to lap it up and buy into this sh1te.

British fight 'bad blood' alert!!!

walshb

Give em a break, guys. It's all part of his plan to clean out the HW division...

Kerrydude1981

This time last year Haye was fighting on Dave

Its a battle of the big mouths

nacho libre

A joke of a fight, which the british public will lap up. Haye is only taking the fight because its low risk for a big reward. In what universe does Bellew think he can take Haye's power when he was cream crackered by a super middleweight. Haye when he wins this will go on to fight for a paper title.

ebbsy

I think Bellew can win. Haye has only fought tomato cans on his return and looks very slow.

9/2 looks tasty to me.

Frank Bullitt

Maybe they will show this on Comedy Central and not Dave this time.

ooter

Surely they won't have the balls to ask people to pay to watch this on tv?

djhaxman

ooter wrote: »

Surely they won't have the balls to ask people to pay to watch this on tv?

It's Sky, of course it's on box office.

walshb

ooter wrote: »

Surely they won't have the balls to ask people to pay to watch this on tv?

Kell Brook-Frankie Gavin...... say no more.

walshb

djhaxman wrote: »

I'm kinda looking forward to this, hopefully Haye shuts Bellew up for once.

Me too. I'll pay for the event...whether a demolition or not I am intrigued. It is PPV, not because it's worth it, but due to the name recognition and the already hyped sense about it...

megadodge

ebbsy wrote: »

I think Bellew can win. Haye has only fought tomato cans on his return and looks very slow.

9/2 looks tasty to me.

Save your money.

This fights ends the moment Haye decides to land. He's a better boxer, bigger man, faster, bigger puncher and Bellew has been floored and stopped by much smaller men who don't hit anyways as hard.

Even if this was Haye's first fight in a few years I'd very strongly fancy him.

I'm actually looking forward to watching Bellew get whupped.

walshb

If the fight is above-board Haye wins within a rd, unless Bellew can avoid getting hit. Stiff Haye jab may be enough.

Mantis Toboggan

Who knows how good Haye is currently he's only fought door men in recent years.

I'm sure he's had bigger fights available and the fact that he hasn't taken them on might say it all.

walshb

Tyson Fury wrote: »

Who knows how good Haye is currently he's only fought door men in recent years.

I'm sure he's had bigger fights available and the fact that he hasn't taken them on might say it all.

Doormen or not he still destroys Bellew.. Bellew will just be another doorman at HW!

Burial.

If the fight was at CW or at favourable catchweight it'd still be a joke of a fight. Bellew really cashing in here. Going to take a beating off Haye and off whoever he fights to lose his belt, if he actually plans on defending it against an actual decent opponent.

nacho libre

Tyson Fury wrote: »

Who knows how good Haye is currently he's only fought door men in recent years.

I'm sure he's had bigger fights available and the fact that he hasn't taken them on might say it all.

That would be going against past form. This move shows he is as ever an astute business man when it comes to Boxing at least. A big payday for an easy nights work.
This will be over in a round or two. Then it will be a fight for a paper title before he cashes out in a mega fight against Joshua or Klitschko later in 2017. I think he only came back to boxing because he was broke,not to prove he was the best. As much i dislike Haye, i still look forward to him putting Bellew in his place. We wont see sky referencing his demolition at the hands of stevenson in the build up to the fight.

badabing106

Apparently Haye turned down a WBA world title fight with briggs for this. Chasing the money rather than the glory

walshb

Great back and forth between the two on the Sky Sports app... Bellew's funny.

Littlehorny

A pair of pri*ks the British publi are worse for buying into it

walshb

Littlehorny wrote: »

A pair of pri*ks the British publi are worse for buying into it

Plenty of Irish will buy into it as well.

Frank Bullitt

Lovely chaps. Great stuff from Bellew, he is sharp with his mouth.

walshb

Gintonious wrote: »

Lovely chaps. Great stuff from Bellew, he is sharp with his mouth.

I enjoyed it. Didn't think I would. Yesterday I was rooting for Haye to destroy him. But I have a funny feeling come fight night (if indeed Bellew shows up) I may just be rooting for him...

Burial.

Bellew has grown on me immensely in recent times. Actually don't mind him as a pundit too...maybe it's because Sky's punditry is @ss for the majority.

PeterTheNinth

Always liked David Haye, but I always felt he was just too small for Heavyweight. He might have been okay in Tyson's day, when Lennox Lewis towered over everybody. But all the recent heavyweight champions are huge now. When you see how small Haye looked against Klitschko, and how small Klitschko looked against Fury.

walshb

And Haye would still KO Fury early.

thierry14

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

Always liked David Haye, but I always felt he was just too small for Heavyweight. He might have been okay in Tyson's day, when Lennox Lewis towered over everybody. But all the recent heavyweight champions are huge now. When you see how small Haye looked against Klitschko, and how small Klitschko looked against Fury.

Don't agree

Haye is plenty big and can bang, he's just too afraid to get hit, even smaller champions like Holyfield, Tyson weren't

No phyiscal reason Haye couldn't be champ

6'7 guy vs 6'5 guy, Wlad didn't look small at all

Intimidated for some reason yes

thierry14

walshb wrote: »

If the fight is above-board Haye wins within a rd, unless Bellew can avoid getting hit. Stiff Haye jab may be enough.

It's will be embarrasing to watch, worse than Creed

Every shot Haye throws will hurt him.

Joke fight in all honestly

Haye will drag it out a few rounds, would be over in 30 seconds if it wasn't a big payday

nacho libre

walshb wrote: »

I enjoyed it. Didn't think I would. Yesterday I was rooting for Haye to destroy him. But I have a funny feeling come fight night (if indeed Bellew shows up) I may just be rooting for him...

I found it quite boring. Inane,childsh insults. Bellew going on about Haye being wobbled by super middleweights. He is the one talking nonsense coming out with that,considering he was hammered by a super middleweight. Haye is a bigger,stronger,faster fighter and a much more powerful puncher than any previous Bellew opponents. You will be wasting your time rooting for Bellew. Haye will dispatch Bellew quicker than he did Enzo.

nacho libre

walshb wrote: »

I enjoyed it. Didn't think I would. Yesterday I was rooting for Haye to destroy him. But I have a funny feeling come fight night (if indeed Bellew shows up) I may just be rooting for him...

I found it quite boring. Inane,childsh insults. Bellew going on about Haye being wobbled by super middleweights. He is the one talking nonsense coming out with that,considering he was hammered by a super middleweight. Haye is a bigger,stronger,faster fighter and a much more powerful puncher than any previous Bellew opponents. You will be wasting your time rooting for Bellew. Haye will dispatch Bellew quicker than he did Enzo.

walshb

I may be rooting for him, but in the same way I'd root for Paul Hession against Usain Bolt...

Really, I'all probably be wanting a clean KO win for Haye.

sxt

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

Always liked David Haye, but I always felt he was just too small for Heavyweight. He might have been okay in Tyson's day, when Lennox Lewis towered over everybody. But all the recent heavyweight champions are huge now. When you see how small Haye looked against Klitschko, and how small Klitschko looked against Fury.

Agreed. Haye was always too small to reign at heavyweight. His only good win was against valuev and that was an iffy win. Holy field was 46 and "beat" valuev. Haye went into complete survival mode against Klitschko. Big gulf

Zardoz

sxt wrote: »

Haye went into complete survival mode against Klitschko. Big gulf

But his toe was injured ,he couldn't get his Hayemaker going ,otherwise he'd have won easily :pac:

Mantis Toboggan

I'd love to see bellew knock him out so that Haye's pathetic excuse for a career would be over.

walshb

Tyson Fury wrote: »

I'd love to see bellew knock him out so that Haye's pathetic excuse for a career would be over.

Very unlikely that a fat CW knocks out a bulked up HW...

StringerBell

Double KO would be nice, though I doubt Bellew has anything to bother Haye at all, who on the other hand has got the power to spark Bellew pretty easily.

I don't think it will be a 1 round thing, but I do think Bellew will need to survive the early rounds to win and I don't think he is capable of avoiding getting hit clean for 4/5 rounds

Dick phelan

Joke fight a total cash out from Bellew, Bellew knows CW is fairly stacked atm and Bredis is his mandatory which he could well loose, Haye is and has always been about the money, his career is one big circus after another, from fighting Fraudley Harrison to the non performance against Klitschko, he has made a comeback because his wife left him and took a chunk of his money and he had some property deals in Cyprus that went tits up. Haye's a joke and Bellew is cashing out. Haye wins inside 3 rounds then the two hug and make up laughing all the way to the bank together. Anyone who buys this is fairly stupid but as long as there's people who buy into the Sky and Matchroom hype this will sell big numbers.

Dick phelan

Bellew got stopped down at LHW, his punching power is vastly overrated, Haye will spark him with the first clean punch he lands. I'm sick and tired of these stupid cash grab fights, Khan vs Canelo, Brook vs GGG and now this circus, i'm all for guys fighting the best and taking a risk but these are fights where they know they can't win and are only fighting for the payday, Bellew, Khan and Brook all knew they couldn't win they took these joke fights instead of fighting someone at their own weight and giving the fans decent fights.

walshb

But seriously, you have to hand the guys credit for taking the risk. They are at the best of times risking their lives every time they step in the ring, and in these examples they are taking even more risk it seems. If Bellew shows up and steps in the ring next March he deserves a ton of credit for having the balls to.

Dick phelan

walshb wrote: »

But seriously, you have to hand the guys credit for taking the risk. They are at the best of times risking their lives every time they step in the ring, and in these examples they are taking even more risk it seems. If Bellew shows up and steps in the ring next March he deserves a ton of credit for having the balls to.

I'm not joking when i say i would happily get KO'd by David Haye for 3 million pounds.

megadodge

Dick phelan wrote: »

I'm not joking when i say i would happily get KO'd by David Haye for 3 million pounds.

Yeah, but no amount of hype would put you into the position where somebody was prepared to pay you 3 million in the first place. That's the whole point.

Dick phelan

megadodge wrote: »

Yeah, but no amount of hype would put you into the position where somebody was prepared to pay you 3 million in the first place. That's the whole point.

Ye but that wasn't the point at all, the point is people are giving Bellew credit for taking this fight well i'm not giving him any, he's probably going to earn 10x what he could fighting Bredis who is also a dangerous fight, for 3 million quid of course he'd take this fight. I'm not going to give a bloke credit for taking a complete cash out fight, who the hell wouldn't fight someone if they were getting 10x what they could fighting someone else.

walshb

Dick phelan wrote: »

Ye but that wasn't the point at all, the point is people are giving Bellew credit for taking this fight well i'm not giving him any, he's probably going to earn 10x what he could fighting Bredis who is also a dangerous fight, for 3 million quid of course he'd take this fight. I'm not going to give a bloke credit for taking a complete cash out fight, who the hell wouldn't fight someone if they were getting 10x what they could fighting someone else.

You need to at least factor in the task and challenge in facing a CW to facing a hard hitting HW. Might not seem much, but Haye being circa 20 lbs above CW does change the whole situation.CWs have to make weight. HWs don't. He damn well deserves extra bob for risking it.

TheNap

I dont hate the idea . It will be an exciting build up . Exciting fight while it lasts . A bit like Brook GGG .

MisterAnarchy

nacho libre wrote: »

A joke of a fight, which the british public will lap up.

Tickets sold out quickly this morning.
The English public are pure mugs ,that Eddie Hearn guy really knows how to milk them.

walshb

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Tickets sold out quickly this morning.
The English public are pure mugs ,that Eddie Hearn guy really knows how to milk them.

This is not at all surprising. People need to realise that a lot of people go to an event. It's not necessarily who is the event, it's the event and occasion. Marketing and names and hyping is what sells these things very easily. Just look at the 1000s of "mugs" who pay to see soccer clubs play each other over and over again....This event is in the ha'penny place compared to that.

walshb

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Tickets sold out quickly this morning.
The English public are pure mugs ,that Eddie Hearn guy really knows how to milk them.

And who is to say the fight isn't a barnstormer for however long it lasts? You know, some of the best boxing events I have been at as a boxing fan where no name events with no name fighters. This is certainly a named event with two very well known names

Could this be a Hearns-Hagler war? It could be. It could be a long dull affair, a blowout in a rd, or a technical masterpiece or technical stinker. Just like many other fights through history that turned out good, bad and ugly.

You can never know until it happens.

Halloween Jack

walshb wrote: »

This is not at all surprising. People need to realise that a lot of people go to an event. It's not necessarily who is the event, it's the event and occasion. Marketing and names and hyping is what sells these things very easily. Just look at the 1000s of "mugs" who pay to see soccer clubs play each other over and over again....This event is in the ha'penny place compared to that.

On the Balance of probabilities....

Frank Bullitt

The presser went well so.

Danye

I'm bemused at the hate towards Hearn and the fact that people think the British people are mugs?

I also can't understand how some people think Haye / Bellew are just in this for the money?

I just don't get it?