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  • 25-11-2016 8:03am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭


    Hi folks have a wall prone to condensation I put the above stuff on which I have used before with wallpaper paste last night but semms to be oozing out just get the feeling its not going to dry or stick any clues should I have used a tile adhesive thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭torrevieja


    Anyone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    i would be better to solve the condensation problem rather than fix the sysmomts .

    proper ventilation
    proper heating
    dehumidifier
    insulation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭Dublin City Handyman


    As said above..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭torrevieja


    i would be better to solve the condensation problem rather than fix the sysmomts .

    proper ventilation as in leave the door open have a air vent on wall
    proper heating gas radiator
    dehumidifier i use this quite a bit
    insulation ??????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    torrevieja wrote: »
    i would be better to solve the condensation problem rather than fix the sysmomts .

    proper ventilation as in leave the door open have a air vent on wall
    proper heating gas radiator
    dehumidifier i use this quite a bit
    insulation ??????

    im generalising becasue i dont know your situation.

    most damp and mildew is caused by either lack of heat or lack of ventilation. sometimes cold bridges or rising damp.


    people dont open windows enough.
    make sure you have a proper vent in the wall and its open . not blocked with tissue . make sure there is actually a hole behind the vent cover:eek:

    what do you mean by gas radiator. have you a gas burner heating the central heating. or one of those yokes that you conect a gas bottle to.
    gas heating in a room is very bad for creating damp.

    have you used an industrial dehumidifier or a crapy little domestic one. hire in a proper one for a week or two to get on top of the problem. the small ones are only for a small leak not for a lot of constant damp.

    what temperature is the room when the dehumidifier is on. they only work at certain temperatures.

    if there is no inulation you will get the warm wet air condensing on the cold wall. the insulation will keep the cold away from the warm air


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    i read this is only on one wall.
    what is the location of the wall.
    is it upstairs
    is it north facing etc

    what is behind the wall.
    what kind of wall
    is it plastered, dashed etc and how old
    what kind of rooofing is above the wall and when was it last checked for leaks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭torrevieja


    Sorry Pen

    i have this hemudifier : http://www.dehumidifiersuk.com/delonghi-des14-14ltr-per-day-compact-portable-dehumidifier.html

    its an extension built about 20 years ago downstairs,
    its a wall which has two french doors in the middle and it seems to be half way down the wall

    its gas central heating
    its concrete its plastered

    its a flat roof with that silver top , facing east


    was a new roof put on about 7 years ago there is a part were there is a wooden box frame goes around the roof and i have noticed that the wood is looking a bit worn

    im not very well up in this Diy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    is the wall a cavity wall or solid

    is the cavity pumped and with what



    do you get condensation on the doors


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭torrevieja


    im nearly sure its cavity

    no its not pumped i did have that complete insulations out before and got the attic insulated with the foam

    they did the pump ( small beads) in the house outer walls but he could not do the extension hadn't got the channels

    i do get condensation on doors especially if cooking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    what do you mean they didnt have chanels
    have you an extractor fan in the kitchen


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭torrevieja


    what do you mean they didnt have chanels
    have you an extractor fan in the kitchen

    yes i have a fan in the kitchen

    thats what the guy told me he could not do the extension this is a room of 8x6


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    is this the same room you are talking about in the other thread.

    i can ony assume that there is no cavity for them to fill.
    check the wall temp and compare to the pumped walls


    you are probably looking at dry ling the interior walls


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭torrevieja


    is this the same room you are talking about in the other thread.


    no its definitely not ................................................ .....................

    i can ony assume that there is no cavity for them to fill.
    check the wall temp and compare to the pumped walls


    you are probably looking at dry ling the interior walls


    no its not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭torrevieja


    Hi again folks I'm trying to get an adhesive for insulation roll I seem to have a choice if 2 one is all purpose wall covering adhesive and one is multi purpose coving and tiling adhesive home base which should I get


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭M.T.D


    Insulation on rolls tends to be fairly impervious to water as well. So if your wall is damp already then water based adhesives, e.g. paste will take a very long time to dry if ever. If you use a waterproof adhesive that works on damp surfaces you will probably never be able to remove the insulation except by chipping the plaster off as well.
    If the wall is bare plaster and assuming it is just condensation, and not damp coming through the wall, get the wall well dried, no cooking, heating on, dehumidifier, windows open for ventilation etc. for several days and once wall is dry use the paste.
    If the wall is painted with a water impervious paint then paste will never dry and you would be better gluing insulated panels to the wall rather the insulation on a roll.


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