Ireland and sports

TallGlass · 19-11-2016 7:13pm #1

Is it me or do Ireland always get a raw dealfrom refs in Sporting events? Personally I think we are seen as soft touches by refs and sporting body's. There's always questionable decision by refs or teams in the back that if it was for example England it wouldn't happen. Can we do anything about it?

s4uv3 · 19-11-2016 7:15pm

I think you're biased.

Skylinehead · 19-11-2016 7:15pm

I've never noticed that. In football, all I can think of is the Henry handball, and England have Maradona to counter that.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 19-11-2016 7:18pm

Dunno but that #23 in the rugby can gimme a raw deal anytime he likes

TallGlass · 19-11-2016 7:20pm

Skylinehead wrote: »

I've never noticed that. In football, all I can think of is the Henry handball, and England have Maradona to counter that.

Well that, that lad in the boxing also. There's a few others. I'm not saying we would have one the games or event but it didn't help. Rugby today as one example, TMO clearly seen it touch the grass. Now unless he has 4D vision there is no way he could have. If that was New Zealand not a chance he would have been so quick to judge it. But soft touch Ireland no problem.

TallGlass · 19-11-2016 7:21pm

s4uv3 wrote: »

I think you're biased.

I'm from the US.

FortySeven · 19-11-2016 7:21pm

I'm Scottish so am often found lamenting the luck of the Irish.

I wouldn't say you get a raw deal.

TallGlass · 19-11-2016 7:27pm

FortySeven wrote: »

I'm Scottish so am often found lamenting the luck of the Irish.

I wouldn't say you get a raw deal.

Can I just clear one thing up, I mean on decisions not on outcomes of games. As I said we lose but the decisions that are questionable clearly replay in players heads.

gramar · 19-11-2016 7:34pm

The NZ try earlier comes to mind. Sexton got back and looked like he might have stopped the ball being grounded.
The ref asks the TV judge if he can clearly see the ball coming into contact with the ground. He says he could but in
none of the replays can you see this. Clearly part of the anti Irish conspiracy.

Topper Harley · 19-11-2016 7:44pm

Bad decisions happen all the time against all teams, I don't think too much of it. We made a big fuss about the Henry handball and got a big payout from FIFA. For the most part, these referees and players have to make decisions in the heat of the moment and they're only human so mistakes are inevitable. The hope is that they even each other out in the long run. That TMO today had no excuse though. I hope some serious questions are asked of him.

Temptamperu · 19-11-2016 7:48pm

I hate all sports and physical activity.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 19-11-2016 7:54pm

Skylinehead wrote: »

I've never noticed that. In football, all I can think of is the Henry handball, and England have Maradona to counter that.

Ireland got royally screwed by a Portuguese referee in the 1980s. Frank Stapleton had a perfect goal disallowed for reasons unknown.

Somebody help me out with the year and the qualifying tournament. It think it could have cost them qualification for a World Cup or Euros.

Minderbinder · 19-11-2016 8:28pm

Did Kevin Kilbane or some other Irish player almost get killed by a knife thrown from the crowd in Albania or Georgia or somewhere? Assuming it wasn't a dream I had, can you imagine if that had happened to a high profile player from England or Brazil or somewhere?

I think there is a definite difference in the way high profile and low profile nations are treated by governing bodies. Sometimes it favours us as it did when FIFA didn't notice the Easter rising commemoration on our jersey until the English fellow mentioned it.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 19-11-2016 8:46pm

Think that knife incident happened in Turkey when we played them in the playoffs for Euro 2000.

washman3 · 19-11-2016 8:53pm

We lost by 3 tries to none to a better team on the night.

GET OVER IT......!!!

Duckworth_Luas · 19-11-2016 8:59pm

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Ireland got royally screwed by a Portuguese referee in the 1980s. Frank Stapleton had a perfect goal disallowed for reasons unknown.

Somebody help me out with the year and the qualifying tournament. It think it could have cost them qualification for a World Cup or Euros.

Qualification for World Cup 1986. Ireland were in a group with eventual semi-finalists France and Belgium. On the brink of qualification, the ref disallowed that goal and awarded a dodgy one to Belgium. I don't remember it, have just read about it.

WildWater · 19-11-2016 9:01pm

Beaten too it.

Fr_Dougal · 19-11-2016 9:45pm

washman3 wrote: »

We lost by 3 tries to none to a better team on the night.

GET OVER IT......!!!

At least it was a proper sport and not that bog ball inbred crap.

TallGlass · 19-11-2016 10:32pm

washman3 wrote: »

We lost by 3 tries to none to a better team on the night.

GET OVER IT......!!!

Again if you bothered your arse to read my posts. It isn't games that I talk about.

Mr. FoggPatches · 19-11-2016 10:45pm

It was only a friendly. In a crap sport. Get over it.

osarusan · 19-11-2016 10:46pm

Limerick FC get raw deals from referees in all their LOI games.

Definitely an anti-Irish bias.

midnight city · 19-11-2016 10:54pm

That ref in the nz v ireland rugby game was def biased. Where was he from?

murpho999 · 19-11-2016 10:57pm

TallGlass wrote: »

Is it me or do Ireland always get a raw dealfrom refs in Sporting events? Personally I think we are seen as soft touches by refs and sporting body's. There's always questionable decision by refs or teams in the back that if it was for example England it wouldn't happen. Can we do anything about it?

Maybe you should right a strongly worded letter to the relevant sporting bodies.

Fratton Fred · 19-11-2016 11:01pm

TallGlass wrote: »

Is it me or do Ireland always get a raw dealfrom refs in Sporting events? Personally I think we are seen as soft touches by refs and sporting body's. There's always questionable decision by refs or teams in the back that if it was for example England it wouldn't happen. Can we do anything about it?

People tend to remember when they were on the wrong end of a dubious decision, but never when they are the benefactor.

Mr. FoggPatches · 20-11-2016 2:30am

midnight city wrote: »

That ref in the nz v ireland rugby game was def biased. Where was he from?

He was from the corner of dry your eyes and get over it.

Vital Transformation · 20-11-2016 3:38am

gramar wrote: »

The NZ try earlier comes to mind. Sexton got back and looked like he might have stopped the ball being grounded.
The ref asks the TV judge if he can clearly see the ball coming into contact with the ground. He says he could but in
none of the replays can you see this. Clearly part of the anti Irish conspiracy.

Sextons tackle was high. Would have been a penalty try even if not given because of the grounding.

sullivlo · 20-11-2016 6:16am

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Dunno but that #23 in the rugby can gimme a raw deal anytime he likes

He's officially too young for me under the rule of half my age plus 7.

Grandeeod · 20-11-2016 6:22am

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

Qualification for World Cup 1986. Ireland were in a group with eventual semi-finalists France and Belgium. On the brink of qualification, the ref disallowed that goal and awarded a dodgy one to Belgium. I don't remember it, have just read about it.

It was a qualifying group for the 1982 world cup.

Collie D · 20-11-2016 7:50am

Swings and roundabouts. All teams will get bad decisions going for and against them.

It was indeed Kevin Kilbane who had a knife thrown at him in Georgia but there's not much a referee can do about fan behaviour.

We've played Georgia a good few times since the turn of the century and if anything they have been hard done by in games against us. Including a penalty given in Croke Park for a foul that was clearly outside the box

DEFTLEFTHAND · 20-11-2016 8:33am

osarusan wrote: »

Limerick FC get raw deals from referees in all their LOI games.

Definitely an anti-Irish bias.

Myself and a number of college associates used to watch them down in Jackman Park. They went under the name of Limerick 37 in those days.

I wish them nothing but the best. They gave me greater times than watching Munster Rugby.

The_Kew_Tour · 20-11-2016 8:42am

Was in Paris the night of Henry handball and even I could see it from other end.

But the aftermath was cringe. I dont blame Henry, if Robbie had done same I'd shake his hand.

Ref was not shocking last night.NZ were just far more classy.

Even the Welsh friends I know would tell me Irish rugby fans are worst whingers they know even over England

Rothmans · 20-11-2016 8:51am

Mr. FoggPatches wrote: »

He was from the corner of dry your eyes and get over it.

Well he sounded South African to me.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 20-11-2016 8:53am

Ireland dominated the kiwis last evening. They had the majority of the ball all game.

They didn't use it though. The Kiwis showed flashes of brilliance three times and breached our line. They're at the end of a long season and are fatigued.

But yet they can still grind out a win against a 2nd tier nation when not playing well. Always the sign of a good team, play badly but still win.

That young outhalf is special though. I felt that they would find it hard to replace Carter, but no. This Barrett seems to be the real deal, he'll only get better with age.

washman3 · 20-11-2016 4:00pm

[QUOTE=DEFTLEFTHAND;
That young outhalf is special though. I felt that they would find it hard to replace Carter, but no. This Barrett seems to be the real deal, he'll only get better with age.[/QUOTE]

Many deluded people in Ireland were brainwashed by the rugby media (Thornley el al) that Sexton was better than Carter, therefore he the best out-half in the world. Barrett well and truly put that theory to bed..!!

Fratton Fred · 20-11-2016 5:41pm

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Ireland dominated the kiwis last evening. They had the majority of the ball all game.

They didn't use it though. The Kiwis showed flashes of brilliance three times and breached our line. They're at the end of a long season and are fatigued.

But yet they can still grind out a win against a 2nd tier nation when not playing well. Always the sign of a good team, play badly but still win.

That young outhalf is special though. I felt that they would find it hard to replace Carter, but no. This Barrett seems to be the real deal, he'll only get better with age.

The difference between a very good team and a great team.

The_Kew_Tour · 20-11-2016 8:20pm

I see few people on other social media complaining about third Try even though it was perfect.

The rugby fans have become such bad losers. I thought football and gaa was bad

washman3 · 20-11-2016 8:40pm

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I see few people on other social media complaining about third Try even though it was perfect.

The rugby fans have become such bad losers. I thought football and gaa was bad

Many, and indeed most, of the 'rugby fans' are not really fans at all. Just bandwagon supporters that will turn their attention to whatever is perceived to be cool at a particular time. How many of the 'fans' in Lansdowne Road last night attend AIL league games.? Very few, given the attendance numbers that are regularly published. You will find that these 'fans' are usually the sorest of losers as they have little or no concept of the game and will use any excuse under the rising sun to explain a defeat.
We didn't hear any criticism of the referee or TMO after the victory in Chicago.!
Contrast this to the gracious manner in which the Kiwi fans,players and management accepted that defeat.
By in large I find the vast majority of GAA fans to be good losers. Of course there are a few clowns in every county, but thankfully they are a tiny minority.

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