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Stranger giving kind advice - oh fcuk off

  • 13-11-2016 12:43pm
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    Site Banned Posts: 391 ✭✭


    This lady, who was by herself, came over uninvited and got talking to me and my mother and I one day outside a cafe. She came over uninvited and since my mother (who's early dementia) talked away to her, I said I'd leave it. She then started complementing me on my looks. She then went on to say that "he'll go far - he's the sort that doesn't need to brag". She then started complementing my mother acting like a psychic: "and you're not the kind who'd be arguing with people" etc.

    I then said "well it was nice meeting you" hoping she'd realise she was being told to go. She then went in for the hand shake to make a big deal out of the goodbye. I realised she didn't care whether I wanted her to leave or not. She gave me the fingers handshake and starting talking more. I eventually said "look, we'd like some time to ourselves" and she finally left.

    When I went in to pay she was at the bar. It was just me and her, and after a moment of silence I knew she'd have to say something. "You know, you'll go really far in life". I said to her "how to you know I haven't already?". "Because you're young, but don't worry it'll take time". "Really, and what makes you the expert?" I said to her. Without hesitation she said "oh I'm not claiming to be an expert... blah blah" didn't hear the end of it, but gee people like that annoy me.

    It'd be naive to think she's just some kind stranger. She was arrogant and didn't care that she was imposing.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,989 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    You kind of sound like a dick man, no need to get upset with random encounters like this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,519 ✭✭✭Flint Fredstone


    Giblet wrote: »
    You kind of sound like a dick man, no need to get upset with random encounters like this.
    Meh. Some people need to know their place and not impose on others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Lots of elderly people like that go up to people because theyre lonely. God, theres worse people to give out about than old ladies telling you youll go far in life

    Fair enough telling her you guys wanted some time alone. But when you met her again at the bar, it was you who was just flat out rude, completely unnecessary


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Advbrd


    Yeah, you should have nutted her. Fcuking cheek of her to have a chat and compliment you. Pure b1tch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,559 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    paralysed wrote: »
    This older lady, who was by herself, got talking to me and my mother and I one day outside a cafe. She came over uninvited and since my mother (who's early dementia) talked away to her, I said I'd leave it. She then started complementing me on my looks. She then went on to say that "he'll go far - he's the sort that doesn't need to brag". She then started complementing my mother acting like a psychic: "and you're not the kind who'd be arguing with people" etc.

    I then said "well it was nice meeting you" hoping she'd realise she was being told to go. She then went in for the hand shake to make a big deal out of the goodbye, which gave me the impression she wasn't leaving soon. She gave me the fingers handshake and starting talking more. I eventually said "look, we'd like some time to ourselves" and she fcuked off.

    When I went in to pay she was at the bar. It was just me and her, and after a moment of silence I new she'd have to say something. "You know, you'll go really far in life". I said to her "how to you know I haven't already?". "Because you're young, but don't worry it'll take time". "Really, and what makes you the expert?" I said to her. "oh I'm not claiming to be an expert... blah blah" as I took the change and walked off.

    Didn't hear the end of her retort, but gee people like that annoy me. It's be naive to think she's just some kind stranger. She was arrogant and didn't care that she was imposing. Wouldn't trust her as far as I'd throw her.

    You're some miserable arse


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 250 ✭✭Clarebelly


    paralysed wrote: »
    This older lady, who was by herself, got talking to me and my mother and I one day outside a cafe. She came over uninvited and since my mother (who's early dementia) talked away to her, I said I'd leave it. She then started complementing me on my looks. She then went on to say that "he'll go far - he's the sort that doesn't need to brag". She then started complementing my mother acting like a psychic: "and you're not the kind who'd be arguing with people" etc.

    I then said "well it was nice meeting you" hoping she'd realise she was being told to go. She then went in for the hand shake to make a big deal out of the goodbye, which gave me the impression she wasn't leaving soon. She gave me the fingers handshake and starting talking more. I eventually said "look, we'd like some time to ourselves" and she fcuked off.

    When I went in to pay she was at the bar. It was just me and her, and after a moment of silence I new she'd have to say something. "You know, you'll go really far in life". I said to her "how to you know I haven't already?". "Because you're young, but don't worry it'll take time". "Really, and what makes you the expert?" I said to her. "oh I'm not claiming to be an expert... blah blah" as I took the change and walked off.

    Didn't hear the end of her retort, but gee people like that annoy me. It's be naive to think she's just some kind stranger. She was arrogant and didn't care that she was imposing. Wouldn't trust her as far as I'd throw her.

    I'm sensing a pattern..........
    paralysed wrote: »
    After an incident that happened recently, I've realised that I must learn the art of not ending up seated next to the person you don't like.

    At a wedding last year, there was girl I clash with. The same person is incredibly rude and says nothing to me, but after a few drinks she'll all talk. It just seems so phony! Anyway, I was at another wedding this year, and after I sat down, she later sat in the seat next to me. I remember saying to myself "one in a hundred", as in 10 seats on both occasions, by 10 = 100

    There are a few tricks alright. For example I remember once, me and three other fellas were getting a taxi, and none of us wanted to sit in the middle. One fella took the initiative to get in first and got shotgun. Me and another fella arrived next, while the 4th guy was still coming out of the house. He got in first and slid over to the far side (ah ha you're thinking), then I got in next and what da ya know!

    Anyway, I've another bloody wedding in a few months, and I've a feeling that that girl will be there too. If she is, I'm telling ya, I will not sit until she does.

    You heard this one before OP?......

    "If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole." -Raylan Givens, Justified.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭newacc2015


    Giblet wrote: »
    You kind of sound like a dick man, no need to get upset with random encounters like this.

    I find Irish people really dont know when to **** off. You could be in a bar and having a private conversation, yet someone close to you will have to chime in. Or you could be having a private conservation on the phone and someone eavesdropping will give you their two cents while they are at it.

    At times you just want to have fun and chill with your friends/family, but people here just love to share their opinion that you havent asked for. I dont know any other nationality who those that. Dismissing politely doesnt make you rude or a "dick". Some old fart butting into your conversation in the first place is really rude


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    paralysed wrote: »
    This older lady, who was by herself, got talking to me and my mother and I one day outside a cafe...

    She may not have been looking for anything other than the sound of a voice, a chance to engage, even if she was a bit pushy. I'd have put up with it, even if it was not exactly rivetting conversation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭The Specialist


    You sound like the kind of guy who could start a fight with a monk OP. Was the elderly woman really such a threat to you with her kind words that you needed to react like that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,058 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    paralysed wrote: »
    
    
    Didn't hear the end of her retort, but gee people like that annoy me.

    That's not a nice way to speak about an old lady.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Elderly person gives compliments and is just looking to be nice. And you basically are a dick to her!???
    Sorry dude but you're a bit of a tool!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    I'm as anti social a person as you an get but I don't think I've ever been rude to anybody in my life.

    It's nice to be nice particularly to an old person who can often be quiet lonely and just want to talk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    I wonder how quickly OP would start a fight with somebody who was actually rude and not an old dear showering with them compliments


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Jimbob1977


    paralysed wrote: »
    This older lady, who was by herself, got talking to me and my mother and I one day outside a cafe. She came over uninvited and since my mother (who's early dementia) talked away to her, I said I'd leave it. She then started complementing me on my looks. She then went on to say that "he'll go far - he's the sort that doesn't need to brag". She then started complementing my mother acting like a psychic: "and you're not the kind who'd be arguing with people" etc.

    I then said "well it was nice meeting you" hoping she'd realise she was being told to go. She then went in for the hand shake to make a big deal out of the goodbye, which gave me the impression she manipulative. I realised she didn't care whether I wanted her to leave or not. She gave me the fingers handshake and starting talking more. I eventually said "look, we'd like some time to ourselves" and she fcuked off.

    When I went in to pay she was at the bar. It was just me and her, and after a moment of silence I new she'd have to say something. "You know, you'll go really far in life". I said to her "how to you know I haven't already?". "Because you're young, but don't worry it'll take time". "Really, and what makes you the expert?" I said to her. "oh I'm not claiming to be an expert... blah blah" as I took the change and walked off.

    Didn't hear the end of her retort, but gee people like that annoy me. It's be naive to think she's just some kind stranger. She was arrogant and didn't care that she was imposing. Wouldn't trust her as far as I'd throw her.

    One day, you could be old and lonely. Craving any kind of human interaction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 666 ✭✭✭sadie1502


    That woman elderly lady could be your mother. Jesus wept relax she could have been looking for a bit of company. Who's to know she may be in the early stages of dementia herself. Relax surly that sort of thing doesn't wind you up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Advbrd


    Clarebelly wrote: »
    I'm sensing a pattern..........



    You heard this one before OP?......

    "If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole." -Raylan Givens, Justified.

    Raylan Givens, class act. They really should not have cancelled Justified or Deadwood for that matter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Advbrd


    anewme wrote: »
    That's not a nice way to speak about an old lady.


    Just got that, I like gee people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donal55


    paralysed wrote: »
    This older lady, who was by herself, got talking to me and my mother and I one day outside a cafe. She came over uninvited and since my mother (who's early dementia) talked away to her, I said I'd leave it. She then started complementing me on my looks. She then went on to say that "he'll go far - he's the sort that doesn't need to brag". She then started complementing my mother acting like a psychic: "and you're not the kind who'd be arguing with people" etc.

    I then said "well it was nice meeting you" hoping she'd realise she was being told to go. She then went in for the hand shake to make a big deal out of the goodbye, which gave me the impression she manipulative. I realised she didn't care whether I wanted her to leave or not. She gave me the fingers handshake and starting talking more. I eventually said "look, we'd like some time to ourselves" and she fcuked off.

    When I went in to pay she was at the bar. It was just me and her, and after a moment of silence I new she'd have to say something. "You know, you'll go really far in life". I said to her "how to you know I haven't already?". "Because you're young, but don't worry it'll take time". "Really, and what makes you the expert?" I said to her. "oh I'm not claiming to be an expert... blah blah" as I took the change and walked off.

    Didn't hear the end of her retort, but gee people like that annoy me. It's be naive to think she's just some kind stranger. She was arrogant and didn't care that she was imposing. Wouldn't trust her as far as I'd throw her.

    What are '..gee people?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    Weird that your mother has early dementia but you're so readily rude to an elderly person that may well have been lonely or even suffering from it herself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭daithi7


    Ha, ha, the irony of it. Some angry guy posts 'Stranger giving me advice, oh fcuk off', while looking for the advice of strangers......:)

    You're hilarious, but I hope I never meet you.

    Right now, I'm fcuking off!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭whoopsadoodles


    Donal55 wrote: »
    What are '..gee people?

    Gee bags (female) and gee baguettes (male) obviously.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭Satriale


    Lonely old lady tried to compliment you. I bet she's sorry now she worked all her life to educate and give you and your compadres First world problems.
    You showed her!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 990 ✭✭✭Ted111


    paralysed wrote: »
    , got talking to me and my mother and I

    Are You, in fact the "old woman"
    Is she an alter-ego, tormentor, antagonist.

    Maybe both of you are projections from your mother's addled mind.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭Winterlong


    Bit harsh OP. She is just a chatty old woman. She has likely forgotten more about life than you will ever know. You can learn a lot by listening to the elderly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭clairewithani


    paralysed wrote: »
    This older lady, who was by herself, got talking to me and my mother and I one day outside a cafe. She came over uninvited and since my mother (who's early dementia) talked away to her, I said I'd leave it. She then started complementing me on my looks. She then went on to say that "he'll go far - he's the sort that doesn't need to brag". She then started complementing my mother acting like a psychic: "and you're not the kind who'd be arguing with people" etc.

    I then said "well it was nice meeting you" hoping she'd realise she was being told to go. She then went in for the hand shake to make a big deal out of the goodbye, which gave me the impression she manipulative. I realised she didn't care whether I wanted her to leave or not. She gave me the fingers handshake and starting talking more. I eventually said "look, we'd like some time to ourselves" and she fcuked off.

    When I went in to pay she was at the bar. It was just me and her, and after a moment of silence I new she'd have to say something. "You know, you'll go really far in life". I said to her "how to you know I haven't already?". "Because you're young, but don't worry it'll take time". "Really, and what makes you the expert?" I said to her. "oh I'm not claiming to be an expert... blah blah" as I took the change and walked off.

    Didn't hear the end of her retort, but gee people like that annoy me. It's be naive to think she's just some kind stranger. She was arrogant and didn't care that she was imposing. Wouldn't trust her as far as I'd throw her.

    Fascinating, can't wait for the film.


  • Site Banned Posts: 391 ✭✭paralysed


    Clarebelly wrote: »
    I'm sensing a pattern..........

    You heard this one before OP?......

    "If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole." -Raylan Givens, Justified.
    You must be spending too much time on boards if you recognised my username and remembered that post. Not to mention it's unfair to use it against me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    I'm the biggest loner going and avoid pointless social interactions if at all possible. I hate situations like this where you end up chatting with a stranger. But I'm not so precious that I can't deal with a bit of silly chit chat with an old lady for the sake of not being ignorant and rude. And what about your mother? Is she not entitled to engage in conversation as she chooses without you stepping in to control things? You sound like a very difficult personality OP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Advbrd


    paralysed wrote: »
    You must be spending too much time on boards if you recognised my username and remembered that post. Not to mention it's unfair to use it against me.

    Boo Hoo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    When I read this it reminded me a lot of that short film 'Caca Milis' . Granted ,old Brendan gleason is annoying af in it but doesn't make the young woman any less of a rude gee bag aka you in similar sounding situation.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭R P McMurphy


    paralysed wrote: »
    You must be spending too much time on boards if you recognised my username and remembered that post. Not to mention it's unfair to use it against me.

    What happened with the taxi?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,058 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Was on a train once, working on a PowerPoint presentation for some crappy meeting and got cornered by what I would deem "a mad owlad" up for a chat.

    Well after ten minutes I realised no PowerPoint would get done so I put it away. He told me how he left Ireland, for America where he met his wife (now deceased) and all about his life and what corporate life was like back in his day. Back living in Ireland when his wife passed away.

    Lovely, lovely man, well read, intelligent, well travelled, great sense of humour and sharp as a tack.

    That was a couple of years back- I can't remember what the PowerPoint presentation or meeting was about, but I remember that conversation with that lovely man.

    Learned more from him than any PowerPoint presentation.

    She was right about one thing Op, you might go far one day, but you've clearly a long way to go.


  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So an old lady got the better of you OP and you thought you'd receive tea and sympathy here in AH? :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    paralysed wrote: »
    You must be spending too much time on boards if you recognised my username and remembered that post. Not to mention it's unfair to use it against me.

    In fairness even I, who regularly forgets most things, remembered your innate anti social comments on that earlier one.

    That old woman was harmless and probably in early dementia herself but you treat her like a pariah. You really need to put life in context and learn the art of polite conversation.


  • Site Banned Posts: 391 ✭✭paralysed


    You sound like the kind of guy who could start a fight with a monk OP. Was the elderly woman really such a threat to you with her kind words that you needed to react like that?
    I said she older. She wasn't exactly a 80 either. You should know that anyone that arrogant in the first place can handle feisty person. I pointed out some fair questions to highlight the assumptions she was making. I'll do her no harm.


  • Site Banned Posts: 391 ✭✭paralysed


    What happened with the taxi?
    Wha? Did I have a thread about a taxi?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,058 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    What happened with the taxi?

    Yeah I kind of did not get the jist of that one. It was a bizarre tale.

    Is there some reason why a person should come up with a complex strategy to avoid sitting in the middle.?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    paralysed wrote: »
    I said she older. She wasn't exactly a 80 either. You should know that anyone that arrogant in the first place can handle feisty person. I pointed out some fair questions to highlight the assumptions she was making. I'll do her no harm.

    That makes no sense whatsoever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    paralysed wrote: »
    Not to mention it's unfair to use it against me.

    Don't you just hate it when people have the audacity to use your own words against you.

    Now, stop being a stain of a human being.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 250 ✭✭Clarebelly


    paralysed wrote: »
    You must be spending too much time on boards if you recognised my username and remembered that post.

    Don't flatter yourself, honey.
    Twas a simple search.

    paralysed wrote: »
    Not to mention it's unfair to use it against me.

    Yeah........... I suppose I should have showed some compassion.....


  • Site Banned Posts: 391 ✭✭paralysed


    anewme wrote: »
    She was right about one thing Op, you might go far one day, but you've clearly a long way to go.
    She didn't use the word "might". And if I haven't gone far, then there's no more reason that I will, than would be anyone else. She presumed I needed encouragement and that I was naive enough to believe her insight... typical cliches.

    Do you know what I learned from her? How not to just sit there and let her wear my ears out. Would James Bond let someone wear his ears out? No, nothing sexy about doing that.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭R P McMurphy


    paralysed wrote: »
    Wha? Did I have a thread about a taxi?

    The post about sitting in the middle. I couldn't follow it. Did you sit in the middle or what? Why would someone avoid sitting in the middle and sit in the passenger seat instead ? These are troubling questions


  • Site Banned Posts: 391 ✭✭paralysed


    So an old lady got the better of you OP and you thought you'd receive tea and sympathy here in AH? :D
    She tried to? but I got rid of her, didn't I?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    paralysed wrote: »
    Would James Bond let someone wear his ears out?

    James Bond would have smashed the smug disrespectful git's face into the bar counter.

    Are you sure she didn't say you'd go far on the next bus?


  • Site Banned Posts: 391 ✭✭paralysed


    In fairness even I, who regularly forgets most things, remembered your innate anti social comments on that earlier one.

    That old woman was harmless and probably in early dementia herself but you treat her like a pariah. You really need to put life in context and learn the art of polite conversation.
    I didn't say she was old. I said older! I'm 26


  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    paralysed wrote: »
    She tried to? but I got rid of her, didn't I?

    A badge of honour you can wear with pride- you'll go far :pac:


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    paralysed wrote: »
    She didn't use the word "might". And if I haven't gone far, then there's no more reason that I will, than would be anyone else. She presumed I needed encouragement and that I was naive enough to believe her insight... typical cliches.

    Do you know what I learned from her? How not to just sit there and let her wear my ears out. Would James Bond let someone wear his ears out? No, nothing sexy about doing that.

    You deserve some praise for your honesty. A friend of mine updated his FB status recently with a "spoke to an old person today, he was very interesting, so everyone be nice to old people" and I thought "oh fcuk off".

    But it's just about consideration. And taking a little time to be nice. Your mum could be alone one day, and impinge on someone's else's space, and I'm sure you would hope she would get nothing but kindness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    paralysed wrote: »
    She didn't use the word "might". And if I haven't gone far, then there's no more reason that I will, than would be anyone else. She presumed I needed encouragement and that I was naive enough to believe her insight... typical cliches.

    Do you know what I learned from her? How not to just sit there and let her wear my ears out. Would James Bond let someone wear his ears out? No, nothing sexy about doing that.

    Wow you really see the worst in people don't you? You take a seemingly innocent compliment and warp it into some strange kind of personalised insult , I don't think this lady was nearly as calculated and scheming as you believe her to be

    Like seriously, 'youll go far' is quite a nice thing to say to somebody, most people would take it for what it is and appreciate it. But you look at it from a completely different aspect and assume by that compliment that she's implying you're not going for right now? She obviously said it because you're young, and young people don't have their lives sorted out. You are about as cynical as they come


  • Site Banned Posts: 391 ✭✭paralysed


    anewme wrote: »
    Yeah I kind of did not get the jist of that one. It was a bizarre tale.

    Is there some reason why a person should come up with a complex strategy to avoid sitting in the middle.?
    Oh yes, I remember the taxi now? Anyone would know that was a piss take.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭Satriale


    wakka12 wrote: »
    When I read this it reminded me a lot of that short film 'Caca Milis' . Granted ,old Brendan gleason is annoying af in it but doesn't make the young woman any less of a rude gee bag aka you in similar sounding situation.


    http://www.thisisirishfilm.ie/shorts/caca-milis


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    paralysed wrote: »
    Oh yes, I remember the taxi now? Anyone would know that was a piss take.

    At least, whatever career she thought you were going to go far in, we know it wasn't comedienne.


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