Leasing from northern ireland

gonphishin

I live in Dublin and am employed with a company based in the uk and have a lease hire company car. I travel to the uk mainland regularly and also cover ROI and NI.
My current car is leased with a company based in dublin but is due to for renewal in the next few months.
With the current sterling exchange rate - there are far better deals on cars in the uk rather than ROI.
My question is whether it is possible to lease a car from a company in NI while living in ROI and if anyone has any experience of doing this. Thanks!

vintagevrs

UK company can register to them and you can drive it down here. I know of someone in lives in ROI driving a UK car as it's a company car all above board. Think they even got a letter from revenue to prevent hassle with customs.

gonphishin

norbert741 wrote:

I attend at the assement centre in Belfast.I was the only one who was not a native speaker, and who came from ROI. All the process what tipp man runnig wrotte, was the same. Except the beginning: We had to stand up, and start the abc from the back. Whoever missed, had to sit. Later we had a Guess who game. All the other task was exactly the same. It was a week ago. Now I am sitting and waiting to their answer. One thing I cant understand: How do they gonna make a selection? We will see. A week just gone, so hopefully they gonna answer me soon.

vintagevrs wrote:

UK company can register to them and you can drive it down here. I know of someone in lives in ROI driving a UK car as it's a company car all above board. Think they even got a letter from revenue to prevent hassle with customs.

Do you know if they have to go by the uk rules for company cars? Emissions etc. The ROI system just goes on distance traveled in a year.

vintagevrs

I would imagine so yes, the car is not on any Irish system. They are paid in sterling BTW, basically working in NI living in ROI but the principle could be applied to your situation?

R.O.R

gonphishin wrote: »

I live in Dublin and am employed with a company based in the uk and have a lease hire company car. I travel to the uk mainland regularly and also cover ROI and NI.
My current car is leased with a company based in dublin but is due to for renewal in the next few months.
With the current sterling exchange rate - there are far better deals on cars in the uk rather than ROI.
My question is whether it is possible to lease a car from a company in NI while living in ROI and if anyone has any experience of doing this. Thanks!

Do you work predominantly in Northern Ireland?

gonphishin

I cover the whole of Ireland. Can be in cork one day - Belfast the next. Its 50/50 really while in ireland. Then its an average of 4-6 months in England, Scotland and Wales.

Atlantic Dawn

I was under the impression that unless it was a van or other works vehicle the basis where you were allowed drive the car here was 100% based on your residency, if you live in ROI you can not have a leased car from outside the state.

pablo128

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

I was under the impression that unless it was a van or other works vehicle the basis where you were allowed drive the car here was 100% based on your residency, if you live in ROI you can not have a leased car from outside the state.

The company would be leasing the car, not the driver.

It is possible to live in the south and work for a UK company and have a UK registered company vehicle. Company vehicles(both cars and vans) are mostly leased nowadays.

Atlantic Dawn

pablo128 wrote: »

The company would be leasing the car, not the driver.

It is possible to live in the south and work for a UK company and have a UK registered company vehicle. Company vehicles(both cars and vans) are mostly leased nowadays.

But I've seen cars seized where ROI residents were driving their family members UK car over here, pretty much the very same thing.

pablo128

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

But I've seen cars seized where ROI residents were driving their family members UK car over here, pretty much the very same thing.

It's not the same. Business use is different.

10. Can a State resident drive a foreign registered vehicle for business use?
A State resident can not normally drive a foreign registered vehicle for business use. However, there are a number of exceptional circumstances in which this rule does not apply. Those exceptional circumstances are:-

A State resident who is employed by an employer established in another Member State may, on application to the Revenue Commissioners, be approved to use a Category A vehicle or a motor-cycle registered in another Member State (either owned or leased by the employer) for business/private use in the State provided
the vehicle is provided as part of the contract of the employment, and
it is used principally for business use outside the State.
Application forms for this temporary exemption are available from any Revenue Office.

A State resident who is employed by an employer established in another Member State is eligible to use Category B & C vehicles registered in another Member State (either owned or leased by the employer) for business/private use in the State.
A State resident who is an employee of a car-hire firm established outside the State is allowed to drive a vehicle for the purpose of returning it to the firm after the vehicle was left in the State on expiry of a hire contract.
In other circumstances where authorised in writing by the Revenue Commissioners.

R.O.R

Used principally outside the state is the important line in the above legislation.

It's not as simple as as just leasing a UK car and if you are stopped saying you mainly use it outside of Ireland. An exemption has to be applied for and carried around in the UK registered vehicle at all times. Much like VRT, revenue don't hand out exemptions willy nilly, so there are very few people legally and correctly doing this. Majority of those who do live in border towns and work full time in NI, so someone covering all the country isn't going to qualify for the exemption.

gonphishin

R.O.R wrote:

It's not as simple as as just leasing a UK car and if you are stopped saying you mainly use it outside of Ireland. An exemption has to be applied for and carried around in the UK registered vehicle at all times. Much like VRT, revenue don't hand out exemptions willy nilly, so there are very few people legally and correctly doing this. Majority of those who do live in border towns and work full time in NI, so someone covering all the country isn't going to qualify for the exemption.

Many thanks for all the responses. Looking at that excerpt from the revenue commissioner - it seems that the requirements for a category B vehicle are less rigid than for a category A one. Or am i reading it wrong? I think the next thing to think about now then is wether brexit will affect this. I guess it will as the uk will no longer be a fellow member state.