Another Ryanair to UK Id thread

shugy

Been searching the net looking information on photo I'd to UK but can't find no recent threads. Know of people who've turned up at airport and been refused entry onto flight with licence as ID. Is this still the case? I know other airlines let you travel with a licence but has Ryanair changed their policy and let this happen now or is it still the same

edeldonlon

It's still the same, passport or EU ID card

shugy

edeldonlon wrote: »

It's still the same, passport or EU ID card

Very silly of them to still have this in place while flybe, arelingus etc.. allows it.

AndyBoBandy

shugy wrote: »

Very silly of them to still have this in place while flybe, arelingus etc.. allows it.

Maybe so, but that's their policy, and when you check in online, it gives you the option to use a passport or passport card (Irish citizens), so you know when you check in what form of ID is required.

If someone checks in with a passport or passport card and doesn't bring said document to the airport it's their fault, not Ryanair's

OldMrBrennan83

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shugy

Patww79 wrote: »

Really they should all require a passport as you need one for every other country, though it's strange there's not consistency between the airlines at least.

The UK and Ireland have a common travel agreement going back years. If the rest don't need a passport then IMO, Ryanair are the ones who need to change. It'll mean more business from people like myself without a passport because now I'll have to use theyre competition instead. N a business sense, that's as daft as it comes!

OldMrBrennan83

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shugy

Patww79 wrote: »

If you travel for business then not having a passport is a bit strange.

Why?

OldMrBrennan83

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LXFlyer

OP at the end of the day Ryanair is a private company and is entitled to impose whatever ID requirements it chooses.

No one is forcing you to use them - there are other airlines that you can use and indeed shipping companies.

Ryanair apply the exact same policy across the Schengen zone - I think you have to accept that it's up to them what their ID requirements are.

pajor

I do think it is not the most convenient policy of Ryanair's, but not the end of the world. Sure I think I even had to do it before when flying Cork-Dublin when Ryanair did that. Just got to live with it.

To go slightly off topic.. I was surprised when checking in online the other day for an Aer Lingus European flight (not to Spain), that I had to fill out passport details. It was a new one for me.

Nomis21

pajor wrote: »

I do think it is not the most convenient policy of Ryanair's, but not the end of the world. Sure I think I even had to do it before when flying Cork-Dublin when Ryanair did that. Just got to live with it.

To go slightly off topic.. I was surprised when checking in online the other day for an Aer Lingus European flight (not to Spain), that I had to fill out passport details. It was a new one for me.

This is advance travel information for security reasons.

Nomis21

Ryanair demand passports because they expect you to be a more useful customer by booking flights to more exotic destinations at a later date.

Fred Swanson

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Avada

pajor wrote: »

I do think it is not the most convenient policy of Ryanair's, but not the end of the world. Sure I think I even had to do it before when flying Cork-Dublin when Ryanair did that. Just got to live with it.

To go slightly off topic.. I was surprised when checking in online the other day for an Aer Lingus European flight (not to Spain), that I had to fill out passport details. It was a new one for me.

Its most likely down to a new EU Directive on Passenger Name Record (PNR). The Directive basically legislates to allow EU countries to collect and store Advance Passenger Information and PNR data and to require airlines to provide it in advance of passengers travelling.

Slightly off topic, but if you are travelling from outside the Island of Ireland, when you arrive into Dublin Airport, you have to go through Passport control. What happens if you have no passport? Does other ID you used accepted?

Fred Swanson

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afatbollix

You would have to prove you have a right of entry to Ireland. That might involve a garda interview or it could mean saying to the officer 'Ara do I really have to show my passport again bud' While wearing a dubs jersey & tracksuit. He was waved through.

Fred Swanson

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Avada

Fred Swanson wrote: »

There is absolutely no law that requires an Irish Citizen to present a passport to enter Ireland.

If you present a driving licence or other ID you will be questioned as to where you come from and will be asked to produce a boarding pass. It is up to the officer on duty to make a decision there and then.

Not directly. But under the Immigration Act of 2004, the officer must be satisfied that you are not a non-national. The easiest way to do that is with photo id.

schemingbohemia

afatbollix wrote: »

You would have to prove you have a right of entry to Ireland. That might involve a garda interview or it could mean saying to the officer 'Ara do I really have to show my passport again bud' While wearing a dubs jersey & tracksuit. He was waved through.

I'm calling shenanigans on this, no Dub would say ARA!

redcup342

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Slightly off topic, but if you are travelling from outside the Island of Ireland, when you arrive into Dublin Airport, you have to go through Passport control. What happens if you have no passport? Does other ID you used accepted?

That would only happen if you managed to lose your Passport/ID Card somewhere between the terminal in the originating airport and the Irish airport.

You need a Passport/ID card to enter the Non-Schengen area of the terminal in Schengen airports anyway, they wouldn't let you leave unless you had a valid form of Identification (Passport/ID/Emergency Travel Document)

JCX BXC

redcup342 wrote: »

That would only happen if you managed to lose your Passport/ID Card somewhere between the terminal in the originating airport and the Irish airport.

You need a Passport/ID card to enter the Non-Schengen area of the terminal in Schengen airports anyway, they wouldn't let you leave unless you had a valid form of Identification (Passport/ID/Emergency Travel Document)

Flew Aer Lingus from Newcastle 2 days ago, only place I took my passport out of my bag was in Dublin. Travelling party couldn't find their passport for the life of them upon arriving in Dublin, so we just gave up and made our passport control, luckily it seemed to drop out of mid-air (their jacket!), but if we had not had out passports, what would the protocol be?

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goingnowhere

Simplest solution here would be for the Irish Government to tell Ryanair that unless it accepts passengers who meet the CTA requirements it can say good bye to its air operators certificate

The Italian Government told Ryanair to get with the program for internal flights, you don't need a passport for internal flights in Italy

https://www.ryanair.com/gb/en/useful-info/help-centre/faq-overview/Travel-documentation/Are-driving-licenses-accepted-as-a-travel-document-on-Ryanair-flights

Valid passport
Valid National ID card*see issuing countries below
Any valid driving licence with photo
Nautical licence
Pension Card/Book
Heating Installation licence
Firearm licence
ID card/badges with photo, issued and stamped by the Administration.
Identification cards issued to civil servants and army soldiers.
AT/BT Card.

BA, Aer Lingus, Fly Be, CityJet have no problems with the CTA ID rules.

You won't need a passport for Belfast London on Ryanair, again local rules enforced for the passengers benefit

JCX BXC

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Neither of us had an alternate photo ID

Fred Swanson

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munchkin_utd

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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ach, you wouldn't even need that (to establish you are an irish citizen and entitled to be in the country) if you had a reasonable grasp of irish facts and figures and an irish accent, and irish head on you.

I once got basically interrogated by a paranoid fervent republican when looking for a flat in Belfast (he believed the brits were after him and only ever took in overseas flat mates), and that experience going down to identifying the locations of breakers yards in Cavan was an education in how someone can place who you are with a certain level of certainty and throw curve balls to make sure your story is consistent.