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Vat rates confusion

  • 04-11-2016 10:05am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1


    Hi can someone please help

    My mate is opening up a garage and is unsure what vat rates for what

    He paids 23% vat on car parts and tyres he buys for customer's but what rate is he to charge
    And also for labour what vat rate is that?

    Thanks


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    He would charge 23% for labour and the cost of parts to him. If he pays €123 inclusive of 23% vat on parts, he would only charge the customer €123 as the vat has already been paid. He would charge 23% on the labour. So if labour is €200, he would charge €246 which includes 23%.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 566 ✭✭✭hjr


    Take a look at this:

    http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vat/guide/supply-of-services.html

    13. Services taxable at the rate of goods (the two-thirds rule)

    Where the VAT-exclusive cost of goods to a supplier exceeds two-thirds of the VAT-exclusive price charged to a customer the supply is taxable as a supply of goods. Where the VAT-exclusive cost of goods to a supplier does not exceed two-thirds of the VAT-exclusive price charged to a customer the supply is taxable as a supply of services. This is known as ‘the two-thirds rule’.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,675 ✭✭✭exaisle


    L.Jenkins wrote: »
    He would charge 23% for labour and the cost of parts to him. If he pays €123 inclusive of 23% vat on parts, he would only charge the customer €123 as the vat has already been paid. He would charge 23% on the labour. So if labour is €200, he would charge €246 which includes 23%.

    hjr is correct in that the two-thirds rule applies.

    Just to clarify.....if he just buys and sells the parts over the counter, the rate is 23%.

    The rate of VAT on Motor repairs and servicing is 13.5% EXCEPT where the cost of parts (net of VAT) is more than two thirds of the total cost (net of VAT). (The two-thirds rule).

    So...in the above example....parts €100 (exclusive of VAT) plus labour €200....the cost of the parts is well below 2/3rds so the total invoice would be €300 plus VAT @ 13.5% = €340.50.

    There's an exception when it comes to tyres though:
    If he sells tyres and fits them to a customer's car, the rate will also be 23%, because the markup on tyres is small and the cost of the tyres compared to the amount charged to the customer (net of VAT) will be more than 2/3rds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 715 ✭✭✭ants09


    exaisle wrote: »
    hjr is correct in that the two-thirds rule applies.

    Just to clarify.....if he just buys and sells the parts over the counter, the rate is 23%.

    The rate of VAT on Motor repairs and servicing is 13.5% EXCEPT where the cost of parts (net of VAT) is more than two thirds of the total cost (net of VAT). (The two-thirds rule).

    So...in the above example....parts €100 (exclusive of VAT) plus labour €200....the cost of the parts is well below 2/3rds so the total invoice would be €300 plus VAT @ 13.5% = €340.50.

    There's an exception when it comes to tyres though:
    If he sells tyres and fits them to a customer's car, the rate will also be 23%, because the markup on tyres is small and the cost of the tyres compared to the amount charged to the customer (net of VAT) will be more than 2/3rds.

    The two thirds rule is not applicable.

    He would charge vat at 13.5% on all work done, irrespective off how much the parts or labour is.

    If he sells tyres he charges 23% vat

    If he sells the parts only he charges 23% vat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,675 ✭✭✭exaisle


    ants09 wrote: »
    The two thirds rule is not applicable.

    He would charge vat at 13.5% on all work done, irrespective off how much the parts or labour is.

    Yes. You are correct. There is a concession for bona-fide car repairs.

    http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vat/rates/decision-detail-04739.jsp


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