Manchester marathon 2017

irfrm

I'm considering this as my next tour of duty on the 3hr mission. I have checked out flights from Dublin go out at 6:30 on the day of marathon getting in for 7:30, would it be possible to get to start line o and time?
Any other feed back would be great

RasTa

From going over to matches it would be possible via taxi alright. Public transport would be tight.

Van.Bosch

RasTa wrote: »

From going over to matches it would be possible via taxi alright. Public transport would be tight.

Agreed but the stress/worry would kill me!

nhunter100

irfrm wrote:

I'm considering this as my next tour of duty on the 3hr mission. I have checked out flights from Dublin go out at 6:30 on the day of marathon getting in for 7:30, would it be possible to get to start line o and time? Any other feed back would be great

Would it not be feasible to travel the day before? I have turned up to marathons here after a 2 hour drive but the stress of trying to get to the start line from the Airport would take away the fun for me. Just my 2 cents though.

Seanie_H

We're flying in the day before. Will try to get the United match in at 3pm (when in Rome) Sat. and then feet up for the evening. Central and comfortable hotel too... Close to the start, no need for a bag drop.

Going soft in my middle age. Stress free all the way. God bless the days when it was all about hostels and 6am flights to save a few quid.

rovers_runner

Would avoid this race like the plague.

They had a short course for three years in a row and never admitted to it until collared:
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/athletics/manchester-marathon-too-short-by-380m-for-three-years-as-24000-runners-have-times-invalidated-a6995681.html%3Famp?client=ms-android-zte

Also they messed up the baggage this year.


Better to do something like Limerick at home.

nhunter100

rovers_runner wrote:

They had a short course for three years in a row and never admitted to it until collared:

To be fair it was a contracted company that measured the course which has been rectified. The baggage was a terrible screw up but was they have promised to address the problem . I ran it this year and found it to be a great course with amazing support. Limerick is a good marathon but I certainly wouldn't place it above Manchester. My experience of Limerick was shin high traffic cones and a not so pleasant run through an industrial estate with partially open roads.

Jnealon

I'll be heading over again next year, I ran it in 2015 when it was short. They dont post out numbers so you'll have to get a friend to collect or use a uk address

irfrm

On the race website
RACE PACKS

Race packs which contain your number, timing chip and baggage label will be sent out in the post in March for those who entered before the end of January.

I just like the idea of staying in my own bed the night before, but I would be up at 5am anyway to get have breakfast, hoping on the plane and getting a taxi.
As for the marathon I presume that they will work on the issue with the bag drop and reading back on previous years threads the general feeling that it a good marathon to do.
And it's flat...

angelzoo

With the DCM hangover in full swing I'm seriously considering this as my next big one. What's the support like en route? Thanks

Jnealon

irfrm wrote: »

On the race website
RACE PACKS

Race packs which contain your number, timing chip and baggage label will be sent out in the post in March for those who entered before the end of January.

Best to check with the organisers. Numbers were not posted out in 2014-15 for overseas runners, these had to be picked up from the race village, it's mentioned on the website too

gucci

angelzoo wrote: »

With the DCM hangover in full swing I'm seriously considering this as my next big one. What's the support like en route? Thanks

Pretty good in fairness, not quitr as many as DCM but you go through a few villages similar to how Dublin route travels so you have plenty of good gathering points.
There are a few miles (I'm guessing from memory) in around 17-20 that are near Sale Rugby club that are a bit rural and quiet, but other than that you are rarely without a few helpful cheers or stewards.

Glencarraig

Jnealon wrote: »

Best to check with the organisers. Numbers were not posted out in 2014-15 for overseas runners, these had to be picked up from the race village, it's mentioned on the website too

According to the website overseas runners (thats us in Ireland too) must pick up their racepack on the Saturday and no numbers will be given out on raceday (Sunday)

Seanie_H

Glencarraig wrote: »

According to the website overseas runners (thats us in Ireland too) must pick up their racepack on the Saturday and no numbers will be given out on raceday (Sunday)

The FAQ page.

"Runners who have entered after the 14th March will need to collect their race numbers from the information centre on Saturday 1st April, between 10:00 and 16:00. The information centre will be at a city centre location to be confirmed.

There will be no race number collection on race day Sunday 2nd April.

International runners have the option of having their numbers posted out to them, for £7.50, provided you register before 10th January and request this service. Please ring the office on + 44 161 928 6795, Monday-Thursday, 09:00-14:00 to pay over the phone for this service. Alternatively, you may collect your number from the race village on Saturday 1st April. Again, there will be no race number collection on race day Sunday 2nd April."

http://www.greatermanchestermarathon.com/faq/

ThebitterLemon

irfrm wrote: »

On the race website
RACE PACKS

Race packs which contain your number, timing chip and baggage label will be sent out in the post in March for those who entered before the end of January.

I just like the idea of staying in my own bed the night before, but I would be up at 5am anyway to get have breakfast, hoping on the plane and getting a taxi.
As for the marathon I presume that they will work on the issue with the bag drop and reading back on previous years threads the general feeling that it a good marathon to do.
And it's flat...

What if the flight is delayed...

TbL

BeepBeep67

ThebitterLemon wrote: »

What if the flight is delayed...

TbL

• Aer Lingus flight today arrived at 07:40
• Off the plane with no fuss and sitting in taxi by 08:00
• Direct route to the cricket ground takes 15 mins, assume you would be potentially dropped half a mile away from the cricket ground.
• At the bag drop at 8:25, queuing.
• Bag drop is efficient, out of there by 8:40.
• 10min walk to the start.
• 10min warm up - no bother

P.S. I wouldn't try this

irfrm

Have listen to the advice and am now going out on the Saturday as OH is tagging along for the trip. Must get booking.
The club have 5 signed up with 3 of us somewhere around the 3 hour mark. I will be followng the P&D55-70 plan as I followed P&D55 for DC 12 and am hoping to up the mileage. Just did 3:08 in DCM16 so hoping to improve a bit on this.

nhunter100

irfrm wrote:

Have listen to the advice and am now going out on the Saturday as OH is tagging along for the trip. Must get booking. The club have 5 signed up with 3 of us somewhere around the 3 hour mark. I will be followng the P&D55-70 plan as I followed P&D55 for DC 12 and am hoping to up the mileage. Just did 3:08 in DCM16 so hoping to improve a bit on this.

Good decision. You should have no problem improving on DCM, Manchester is alot faster.

Glencarraig

irfrm wrote: »

Have listen to the advice and am now going out on the Saturday as OH is tagging along for the trip. Must get booking.
The club have 5 signed up with 3 of us somewhere around the 3 hour mark. I will be followng the P&D55-70 plan as I followed P&D55 for DC 12 and am hoping to up the mileage. Just did 3:08 in DCM16 so hoping to improve a bit on this.

Just booked flights and hotel for Manchester myself. Hotel and early flight prices on Saturday 1st are very high. United and Liverpool are both playing at home. Just remember that overseas numbers must be collected on Saturday and collection closes at 16.00. I didn't realise this when booking flights and have only left myself 70 minutes to get from airport to wherever the collection is.

Macy0161

Have this down as my first marathon. Didn't see Saturday collection cut off until booking flights, but within the 24 hours, so didn't have to pay extra (bar the additional flight costs) and now I see I could've just paid extra to have the number sent! Not really starting off the best...

Will probably pay for the number to be sent to be honest, just to avoid any stress of flight delays on the weekend.

EDIT - That bit about International Runners being able to pay extra to have them posted doesn't seem to be on the FAQ's now, back to plan A!

Seanie_H

Glencarraig wrote:

Just booked flights and hotel for Manchester myself. Hotel and early flight prices on Saturday 1st are very high. United and Liverpool are both playing at home. Just remember that overseas numbers must be collected on Saturday and collection closes at 16.00. I didn't realise this when booking flights and have only left myself 70 minutes to get from airport to wherever the collection is.

Glencarraig wrote:

Just booked flights and hotel for Manchester myself. Hotel and early flight prices on Saturday 1st are very high. United and Liverpool are both playing at home. Just remember that overseas numbers must be collected on Saturday and collection closes at 16.00. I didn't realise this when booking flights and have only left myself 70 minutes to get from airport to wherever the collection is.

You can arrange for your number to be posted.

Glencarraig

Seanie_H wrote: »

You can arrange for your number to be posted.

This is an email I sent to the Manchester Marathon event organisers yesterday and the reply I received.

"Is there any facility for overseas entrants to have their number posted before the event. It may not be possible to make the collection venue before 16.00 on Sat 1st"

Reply:
Thanks for your email. Unfortunately, we can only allow international race packs to be picked up from HOME First Street at 9:00 - 16:00.

Kind Regards,

Matt Urey
Xtra Mile Events
0161 928 6795

Office address: 292 Hale Road, Hale Barns, Altrincham, WA15 8SP.

Seanie_H

Glencarraig wrote: »

This is an email I sent to the Manchester Marathon event organisers yesterday and the reply I received.

"Is there any facility for overseas entrants to have their number posted before the event. It may not be possible to make the collection venue before 16.00 on Sat 1st"

Reply:
Thanks for your email. Unfortunately, we can only allow international race packs to be picked up from HOME First Street at 9:00 - 16:00.

Kind Regards,

Matt Urey
Xtra Mile Events
0161 928 6795

Office address: 292 Hale Road, Hale Barns, Altrincham, WA15 8SP.

Cheers for that. Xtra Mile will be getting a phone call tomorrow! I'll let you know if I have any joy. Sure I booked flights on the basis of what was stated on their website.

andrew1977

I signed up this morning, my second marathon to complete all going well.

Flying out Saturday morning early flight, coming back Monday lunchtime.

Looking forward to doing it now , it means I have no excuse to start the proper training again from first week in January, gives me something to aim for early April.

TFBubendorfer

andrew1977 wrote: »

Looking forward to doing it now , it means I have no excuse to start the proper training again from first week in January, gives me something to aim for early April.

Do yourself a favour and start training first week in December instead.

andrew1977

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

Do yourself a favour and start training first week in December instead.

Nursing a bit of an inury at the moment, giving the body a chance to settle down and recover. Have only been down couple of 10km a week after a 2 week break after the Dublin city marathon.
From January will be upping the frequency of training and the miles.

gucci

andrew1977 wrote: »

Nursing a bit of an inury at the moment, giving the body a chance to settle down and recover. Have only been down couple of 10km a week after a 2 week break after the Dublin city marathon.
From January will be upping the frequency of training and the miles.

If you have the DCM and training under your belt then you have a good base there to bolt your next block of training onto.
Mind that injury and make sure you get it right and you will be flying it in no time I am sure.

Still considering joining in for Manchester. Its quite convenient for me to do, but I would prefer to do a different run this year.

ISOP

just signed up, using it as a training run for London 3 weeks later

Glencarraig

Just a gentle reminder that the 16 week programme for Manchester starts..........next Monday 12/12:)

andrew1977

Glencarraig wrote: »

Just a gentle reminder that the 16 week programme for Manchester starts..........next Monday 12/12:)

Hi,
What plan is this? Would you have a link please?
I am doing Manchester (2nd marathon) and want to see if I can train better/different than before.
Thanks for your help.

Glencarraig

It's the Asics 16 week sub 3.00 plan.

http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/news/images/asics/ASICS_TRAININGPLANS_Sub%203.00.pdf

They also do a 3.30 version. http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/news/images/asics/ASICS_TRAININGPLANS_Sub%203.30.pdf

andrew1977

Glencarraig wrote: »

It's the Asics 16 week sub 3.00 plan.

http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/news/images/asics/ASICS_TRAININGPLANS_Sub%203.00.pdf

They also do a 3.30 version. http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/news/images/asics/ASICS_TRAININGPLANS_Sub%203.30.pdf

Thanks for that, serious training in that.:eek:
I wouldn't be anywhere near that level unfortunately, got 4.21 in my first marathon , a new PB in Manchester is my aim for marathon number 2 .
For you experienced marathon guys, any advice for targets I should be aiming for in number 2 marathon ?

Glencarraig

andrew1977 wrote: »

Thanks for that, serious training in that.:eek:
I wouldn't be anywhere near that level unfortunately, got 4.21 in my first marathon , a new PB in Manchester is my aim for marathon number 2 .
For you experienced marathon guys, any advice for targets I should be aiming for in number 2 marathon ?

Here's the Asics sub 4.00 plan, might be more suited to you. Consistency is the key to marathon training but dont stress if you miss a few runs. Sometimes the body is letting you know it needs a rest.

I used the 3.30 plan for my first marathon after 30 years of recovery from my last one !! It worked a treat, really enjoyed the run and was never in trouble, finished in 3.28.

http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/news/images/asics/ASICS_TRAININGPLANS_Sub%204.00.pdf

andrew1977

Glencarraig wrote: »

Here's the Asics sub 4.00 plan, might be more suited to you. Consistency is the key to marathon training but dont stress if you miss a few runs. Sometimes the body is letting you know it needs a rest.

I used the 3.30 plan for my first marathon after 30 years of recovery from my last one !! It worked a treat, really enjoyed the run and was never in trouble, finished in 3.28.

http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/news/images/asics/ASICS_TRAININGPLANS_Sub%204.00.pdf

Thank you for posting that for me, interesting training plan.

Well done on your 3.30 !! Super achievement after 30 years on the recovery:)

nhunter100

andrew1977 wrote:

Thanks for that, serious training in that. I wouldn't be anywhere near that level unfortunately, got 4.21 in my first marathon , a new PB in Manchester is my aim for marathon number 2 . For you experienced marathon guys, any advice for targets I should be aiming for in number 2 marathon ?

Where was your first. Manchester is quite fast and flat. I paced 3.58 this year and I will be pacing 3.58 again next year. A sub 4 is within your reach if you put in the correct training.

andrew1977

nhunter100 wrote: »

Where was your first. Manchester is quite fast and flat. I paced 3.58 this year and I will be pacing 3.58 again next year. A sub 4 is within your reach if you put in the correct training.

Dublin this year was my first, trying to rest up a bit and shake off a niggling knee injury, but will be at the training full pelt in January.Sub 4 might just be too soon, you think?

nhunter100

andrew1977 wrote:

Dublin this year was my first, trying to rest up a bit and shake off a niggling knee injury, but will be at the training full pelt in January.Sub 4 might just be too soon, you think?

Manchester is flatter than Dublin with equal levels of support. If you get the correct training in no reason why you can't go sub 4. You'll certainly knock at least 10 mins off your Dublin time.

noelearly

Accommodation is steep in Manchester. Was thinking of doing this but might just skip it and do cork instead. I have Berlin in Late sept, Is the 15 weeks enough of s cushion??

ligerdub

I'm thinking of doing this. Will pull the trigger or not in the next couple of days.

Is anyone else going for the idea of flying out on the morning of the race, plan of arrival at 7.40? I figure that with the cost of accommodation the night before (barring Airbnb), as well as having a better control of fuel up plan the day before the race it could be the best option, plus I'm doing it solo so I don't really wanna hang around.

Couple of questions for those who may be in the know:

1. Does this race have a wave structure much like Dublin and if so, can you elect a later start if time is tight?

2. I assume it's kosher to list an address in NI if you know somebody up there to send numbers to?

3. Is there any issue in bringing through gels as carry on for a flight?

Glencarraig

ligerdub wrote: »

I'm thinking of doing this. Will pull the trigger or not in the next couple of days.

Is anyone else going for the idea of flying out on the morning of the race, plan of arrival at 7.40? I figure that with the cost of accommodation the night before (barring Airbnb), as well as having a better control of fuel up plan the day before the race it could be the best option, plus I'm doing it solo so I don't really wanna hang around.

Couple of questions for those who may be in the know:

1. Does this race have a wave structure much like Dublin and if so, can you elect a later start if time is tight?

2. I assume it's kosher to list an address in NI if you know somebody up there to send numbers to?

3. Is there any issue in bringing through gels as carry on for a flight?

info@extramileevents.com should be able to answer all of the above. Personally I wouldnt risk trying to make it on the morning of the event, flight delays, train delays, closed roads, traffic, delays at bag drop, lots to go wrong.

ligerdub

True enough, but there are pro's and con's to day tripping or staying over the night before.

I'm holding out on the idea that the first flight of the day is less likely to be delayed than a flight later in the day. Even at that if there were multiple waves then delays might not be that fatal to plans.

TFBubendorfer

ligerdub wrote: »

3. Is there any issue in bringing through gels as carry on for a flight?

I've never had a problem with that

wobblemouth

ligerdub wrote: »

I'm thinking of doing this. Will pull the trigger or not in the next couple of days.

Is anyone else going for the idea of flying out on the morning of the race, plan of arrival at 7.40? I figure that with the cost of accommodation the night before (barring Airbnb), as well as having a better control of fuel up plan the day before the race it could be the best option, plus I'm doing it solo so I don't really wanna hang around.

Couple of questions for those who may be in the know:

1. Does this race have a wave structure much like Dublin and if so, can you elect a later start if time is tight?

2. I assume it's kosher to list an address in NI if you know somebody up there to send numbers to?

3. Is there any issue in bringing through gels as carry on for a flight?

I did this race a couple of times in recent years. Flew in from Dublin the night before, managed to find reasonably priced hotels. There's very good transport links to start so it widens the options of where you can stay beforehand. You could stay in city centre or at an airport hotel. I flew back to Dublin a couple of hours after race - got a shower in the Raddisson in the airport. IMHO mad to fly over on morning of race.

No need to use NI address - I picked up my number easily on race morning.

Gels will be fine for hand luggage as long as they're <100ml.

Glencarraig

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No need to use NI address - I picked up my number easily on race morning. Quote.

From the Marathon website:

What if I am coming from overseas? What is the race number procedure for me?

Overseas runners must collect their number on Saturday 9th April from the race village, there will NOT be a race number pick-up facility on Sunday morning.

Willowslane

Guys I've 3 nights accommodation booked in Salford quays. Fri-sun Inc. Fully paid in December but now due to circumstances I cannot run so if anybody is interested let me know. 800m to start line. 1.2km to number pick up.

Seanie_H

Glencarraig wrote:

Reply: Thanks for your email. Unfortunately, we can only allow international race packs to be picked up from HOME First Street at 9:00 - 16:00.

By the way, I rang the organisers and arranged for postage to Ireland for the numbers in advance. Postage was approx. €8 I think.

Glencarraig

Just a gentle warning to any of you guys (or gals) running in Manchester who like to wear headphones and hoping (or even expecting) to feature in the age category prizes. I noticed on the race website that the wearing of headphones are allowed only if you are not running for a prize. I fired off an email asking if this only applied to affiliated runners competing in "The Championships" which I believe is included in the race. The reply I got was that you cannot get any prize in any category if found to be running with headphones. How they would police that I do not know. What happens if you run 23 miles with them in and take them out for the last bit and crossing the line. I do like my music when I run !!!

tang1

Glencarraig wrote: »

Just a gentle warning to any of you guys (or gals) running in Manchester who like to wear headphones and hoping (or even expecting) to feature in the age category prizes. I noticed on the race website that the wearing of headphones are allowed only if you are not running for a prize. I fired off an email asking if this only applied to affiliated runners competing in "The Championships" which I believe is included in the race. The reply I got was that you cannot get any prize in any category if found to be running with headphones. How they would police that I do not know. What happens if you run 23 miles with them in and take them out for the last bit and crossing the line. I do like my music when I run !!!

Photos!!

Glencarraig

tang1 wrote: »

Photos!!

I can see them calling in the best detectives the Greater Manchester Police force can muster to cover this !!

nhunter100

Lots of live music on the course, why miss out with headphones stuck in your ears.

Glencarraig

nhunter100 wrote: »

Lots of live music on the course, why miss out with headphones stuck in your ears.

Because I like to listen to music that I have chosen, not what somebody else thinks I should listen to.