Council Workers using their Vans for Private Use

toadeo

Have a Council worker in our estate who brings his van home every night. He uses the van to take his son to football and other events. Also uses the van to go shopping. What are the rules for private use and, more to the point, are they insured to carry 'non council' passengers?
Does anyone know?

longshanks

The rules are mind your own business.

Kevwoody

toadeo wrote: »

Have a Council worker in our estate who brings his van home every night. He uses the van to take his son to football and other events. Also uses the van to go shopping. What are the rules for private use and, more to the point, are they insured to carry 'non council' passengers?
Does anyone know?

And how is it any of your business?

Edups

toadeo wrote: »

Have a Council worker in our estate who brings his van home every night. He uses the van to take his son to football and other events. Also uses the van to go shopping. What are the rules for private use and, more to the point, are they insured to carry 'non council' passengers?
Does anyone know?

As said, mind your own business. Do you seriously have nothing better to be doing than conspiring against your neighbours? He has things to do, he's using the work van to save money on paying for another car, if it was against the rules I doubt he'd be doing it. Get a life.

jippo nolan

"Twitching curtains"

irish_goat

In Derry it's standard practice for staff who are allocated a van to take it home and they'd all use it for runs to the shops and the like as well. It's a bit ridiculous here as there are some staff who have no need for a van but have wangled one as it means they don't have to run a vehicle and get free fuel. As far as I am aware we're not allowed to carry passengers though unless they are council employees. Can't imagine I'd be insured if I was bringing a child to football practice anyway.

BowWow

Would think its not covered by insurance.

dslamjack

He/she is more than likely paying a weekly BIK(benefit in kind)deducted at source on the payroll,the charge is levied against engine/vehicle size and the company/council saves money on security/parking and travel etc.

robertpatterson

You should ask him yourself next time you see him driving and post your experience here for all of us

boombang

longshanks wrote: »

The rules are mind your own business.

We (the public) pay for it, so it's absolutely anybody's business to ask.

Wishbone Ash

toadeo wrote: »

Have a Council worker in our estate who brings his van home every night?

It's often permitted where an employee is also required to be on call or to provide urgent services outside of normal working hours.

While you are safely tucked up in bed in the dead of night, he may be out providing an essential service.

Pro Hoc Vice

BowWow wrote: »

Would think its not covered by insurance.

On what basis.

Atlantic Dawn

Probably whoy SIPTU don't want trackers attached to vehicles in Sligo either

http://www.siptu.ie/media/pressreleases2016/mainnews/fullstory_20096_en.html

Wesser

I agree it is not a great idea to
Poke in to Other people's business, but if the taxpayer paid for the petrol he is using then, that's not really ok....

FixitFelix

longshanks wrote: »

The rules are mind your own business.

This times a million, too many people sticking their snout where it doesn't belong

A_Sober_Paddy

FixitFelix wrote: »

This times a million, too many people sticking their snout where it doesn't belong

As a taxpayer it's entirely the OP's business

Wishbone Ash

A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »

As a taxpayer it's entirely the OP's business

How do you know the OP is a taxpayer?

Dizzyblonde

Mod note: Moved to the Legal Discussion forum, it's better suited to here than Dublin County North.

Edups

A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »

As a taxpayer it's entirely the OP's business

Will ye stop, what he does with a van has nothing to do with you or anyone else. I used to get rent allowance, are you entitled to come live in my house?

Turnipman

Edups wrote: »

I used to get rent allowance, are you entitled to come live in my house?

No.

But if you were running a B&B or a brothel in your gaff then I'd have every right to ask what was going on in accommodation being subsidised by the taxpayer.

The_Valeyard

I'd leave it alone, unless it's a clamper van....

Riazor

Between this thread and your man looking for compo for his dog this morning, you would despair for this country at times.

Needles73

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

On what basis.

Because it's a van and likely to be on commercial insurance, which can prohibit use for social or donestic purposes

average_runner

Once everyone inside the van is covered by the insurance and if he/she caused an accident and everyone is covered it's ok.


Otherwise it's a very selfish and idiotic thing to do.

The Backwards Man

A neighbour of mine drives a gritter in the winter, he lives about a mile off the main road, takes the truck home with him.

Another neighbour reported him for gritting his own road home so he could get back down in the morning, as it wasn't a specified route.

Some people eh?

Pro Hoc Vice

Needles73 wrote: »

Because it's a van and likely to be on commercial insurance, which can prohibit use for social or donestic purposes

Third party insurance can not be voided for such a reason as any voiding of policy by an insurance company in motor claims can only be done by registered post before a incident. Also many state vehicles are not covered by private insurance.

nuac

Mod
As this is a matter between the van driver and his employer I don't see any point in having a thread here on it

On a personal note, an ESB lineman lived near us. On a stormy night, if supply in locality was failing, it was reassuring to hear him startup his van.