TB Information - from ICBF

patsy_mccabe

Interesting article from ICBF on TB.

http://www.icbf.com/?page_id=6785

blackdog1

patsy_mccabe wrote:

Interesting article from ICBF on TB.

Get the department to send TB positive cows directly to the knackery in 2-3 days and speed up farmers compensation payment and we'd be TB free in 5 years. Farmers regularly have reactors on farm for a month.

Limestone Cowboy

blackdog1 wrote: »

Get the department to send TB positive cows directly to the knackery in 2-3 days and speed up farmers compensation payment and we'd be TB free in 5 years. Farmers regularly have reactors on farm for a month.

We'll never be TB free.

freedominacup

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

We'll never be TB free.

Not as long as there's a movement regime as lax as the current one. That said a neighbour who lost his entire herd this decade had a blast of reactors on Fri. Herd closed since he restocked and all stock housed 365 days.

Limestone Cowboy

freedominacup wrote: »

Not as long as there's a movement regime as lax as the current one. That said a neighbour who lost his entire herd this decade had a blast of reactors on Fri. Herd closed since he restocked and all stock housed 365 days.

While there is infected animals in the wild there will be the same in cattle. Eradication ain't going to happen. It's funny reading that article from icbf that the department were working on a vaccine for badgers. How impractical is it to even attempt vaccinating wild badgers......would it not make a lot more sense to vaccinate the cattle if we had a vaccine or am I missing something glaringly obvious?

croot

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

While there is infected animals in the wild there will be the same in cattle. Eradication ain't going to happen. It's funny reading that article from icbf that the department were working on a vaccine for badgers. How impractical is it to even attempt vaccinating wild badgers......would it not make a lot more sense to vaccinate the cattle if we had a vaccine or am I missing something glaringly obvious?

Could it be that the vaccine might not be fit for human consumption so an animal vaccinated can't enter the food chain?

patsy_mccabe

1962 the compulsory scheme started, so 54 years in existence. Would be interesting to see how much it has cost to date.

greysides

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

How impractical is it to even attempt vaccinating wild badgers......would it not make a lot more sense to vaccinate the cattle if we had a vaccine or am I missing something glaringly obvious?

Two problems. The first one is insignificant... it can't be gotten to work............:rolleyes:

The second is that it would interfere with the skin test. It's the fact that we're testing for TB that is allowing us to sell animals and produce abroad... certification is facilitated....

Mooooo

freedominacup wrote: »

Not as long as there's a movement regime as lax as the current one. That said a neighbour who lost his entire herd this decade had a blast of reactors on Fri. Herd closed since he restocked and all stock housed 365 days.

Beet and maize big draws for badgers apparently esp beet

The man in red and black

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

We'll never be TB free.

Halving the number of reactors from 2000 to 2015 is decent progress in fairness. Obviously nobody thought in the 50's they'd still be battling it today but they are making inroads. The last stage will be the hardest.

Count Mondego

The new motorway construction between Gort and Athenry has caused havoc in the area with TB. Number of farms around Ardrahan have been cleaned out. One poor fella lost 100 of 120 dairy cows.

pedigree 6

Count Mondego wrote: »

The new motorway construction between Gort and Athenry has caused havoc in the area with TB. Number of farms around Ardrahan have been cleaned out. One poor fella lost 100 of 120 dairy cows.

Go down to the 3rd page. Bet you never saw anything like that before.:p

http://www.m11gtoe.ie/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/02-m11-Enniscorthy-newsletter-Web.pdf

White Clover

Mooooo wrote: »

Beet and maize big draws for badgers apparently esp beet

And don't forget brewers grains.

Count Mondego

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Go down to the 3rd page. Bet you never saw anything like that before.:p

http://www.m11gtoe.ie/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/02-m11-Enniscorthy-newsletter-Web.pdf

Ha, that's a first.

pedigree 6

Count Mondego wrote: »

Ha, that's a first.

Central heating and flat screen TV's.
Might move in myself.
http://www.pressreader.com/search?query=badger%20setts&in=ALL&date=Last3Days&hideSimilar=0

Be interesting to see though if Tb goes up or down in the area.

Limestone Cowboy

The man in red and black wrote: »

Halving the number of reactors from 2000 to 2015 is decent progress in fairness. Obviously nobody thought in the 50's they'd still be battling it today but they are making inroads. The last stage will be the hardest.

I don't think eradication is possible to be honest, as it stands it's being kept under control but that's as good as I can see it getting. Plenty of cases of it locally enough in the last year. The next parish on in particular is rampant with it. I know one man that had 40 weanlings go down in a single test, another that has nearly 50 gone over 3 tests, another had 15 a month ago and I heard another had a lot of reactors last week aswell but I have no figure for that. The same area has been a tb hotspot for the last ten years with nearly every herd having a big bundle like that at some stage and I haven't seen any improvement in it. Worse it's getting if anything.

manjou

I think it was countryfile not sure where they said that tb can remain in herd and animals and does not show up on test except only 1 or 2 in test and persintley keeps herds closed as not taking out if this is true then only depopulation would work. Cant remember full details so if anyone can else can aply link etc.

patsy_mccabe

I remember when we had TB over 25 years ago. An old VET at the time said that it might be one of the older cows in the herd that kept spreading it. We kept going down year after year for maybe 5 years or so. We had badgers wondering into the yard too in the middle of the day, totally spaced out. Mod.... Burdizzo Snip

Buford T. Justice XIX

I've included an article on a Canadian farmer about to be depopulated with TB.

http://globalnews.ca/news/3039658/alberta-rancher-at-centre-of-tb-quarantine-speaks-out-no-one-is-going-to-come-out-of-this-unscathed/

Pretty horrible outcome for him and no idea when he can repopulate.

Bellview

greysides wrote:

Colics are brutely simple. There's the ones that will sort themselves out and the one's that will be fatal. Painkillers will help in both instances plus any specific treatment determined by likely cause.

Limestone Cowboy wrote:

I don't think eradication is possible to be honest, as it stands it's being kept under control but that's as good as I can see it getting. Plenty of cases of it locally enough in the last year. The next parish on in particular is rampant with it. I know one man that had 40 weanlings go down in a single test, another that has nearly 50 gone over 3 tests, another had 15 a month ago and I heard another had a lot of reactors last week aswell but I have no figure for that. The same area has been a tb hotspot for the last ten years with nearly every herd having a big bundle like that at some stage and I haven't seen any improvement in it. Worse it's getting if anything.

Do you did they kill out with tb or fail the test. We all know cases where animals leave a yard and they kill out clean.