Making your own lift for wheelie bin

Ray Palmer

I am looking at building an extension the house is semi detached. I always like the fact I can keep the bins in the back garden and wheel them out for collection. However if I want to build the extension I have the option of leaving a passage way to the back or not. It would roughly be 3Sqm which would be substantial for the extension to one room only getting 4Sqm any way.
So I was thinking if I could somehow bring stuff from the back over the flat roof to the front that could be a solution. The roof can easily take the weight and I am not looking particularly fancy or even motorised. Use of block and tackle, counter weights and simple pullies should work. Anybody seen plans or DIY solutions along this line?

jack of all

Sounds a bit Heath Robinson to be honest; quite apart from the practicalities of such a system I would imagine that you would seriously impact on the value of your house by removing independent access to the rear garden. Also you've got to consider how difficult using such a set up might be in 10 or 20 years time....

Bonzo Delaney

also putting the bins out on rainy nights in November are never much fun at the best of times let alone getting them over a flat roof and back down again and same again the following day to bring them back how about a neat bin store out the front

Store the bins out the front, just build dedicated storage for them, problem solved.

Though the comment about losing access to the rear impacting the value of the property is one to consider

Ray Palmer

While I appreciate peoples' views I have my own reasons and logic to why I think a lift is a good idea.
Really looking for advice on how to do it.

Stoner

Ray Palmer wrote:

While I appreciate peoples' views I have my own reasons and logic to why I think a lift is a good idea. Really looking for advice on how to do it.

I added an extension, lost a side entrance, I built a structure to hide the bins out front. Planted around it and I've a skinny covering of green leaves and berries around it now.

What you are asking for sounds great, a bit Swiss family Robinson .

I'm wonder would this be more suited to the engineering forum? You got little help here I know what you want but that's about it.

Bonzo Delaney

this is the best I could come up with purchase two genie lifts light weight ones probably 100kg rated we use them for lifting in rsj's in to position safely albeit 450kg rated ones
get a good pallet and put casters and
3 sides on it and a door making a crate out of it
put the bin in to the crate lift up the crate with the geine lift to a platform on the flat roof that incorparates a track for the casters.
using a pulley system go around to the front of the house and pull the pulley pulling the crate with the bin in it across the roof to meet up with the 2nd platform and geine lift at the front of the house and lower to ground level .
repeat this until you get peed off with it and build a bin store out the front at least you'll get to sell on the geine lifts for what you near bought them for

Sleeper12

Not trying to knock the whole idea but wanted to remind you a flat roof should last years when left alone. So you want something that doesn't drag on the actual roof or something that's going to have you on the roof every week as this could shorten the roof lifespan

Bonzo Delaney

I was thinking a track that sat up on the roof or another idea a 2nd hand stairs lift pieced together where the bin slots in where the seat would be

Kevwoody

The mind absolutely boggles at the suggestions here.
I'm sorry op but this is one of the craziest ideas I've seen on here. It's totally impractical, not to mention dangerous.
A fully loaded whellie bin is hard enough to manoeuvre at ground level. It's not just something to lift the bin you need, but also yourself.
It's going to be nothing but an ugly, dangerous eyesore on your house.
A dedicated enclosure that you can screen at the front of your house is the only way to go.

endacl

Trebuchet, Ray. You need to build a trebuchet in the back garden. No point in poncing about with ropes, block and tackle when you could just build a trebuchet.

eeguy

Gonna echo the rest here and say that it's totally impractical.
What if it breaks? Then you can't get the bins out.
What if it damages your roof? Then youll be thousands down.
Will it work in all weather conditions? Will it be dangerous pushing your bins over a wet, snowy or icy roof?
On a dark freezing January night, will you a actually be arsed to set up your winch up/ push on rails /winch down system?

Bonzo Delaney

endacl wrote: »

Trebuchet, Ray. You need to build a trebuchet in the back garden. No point in poncing about with ropes, block and tackle when you could just build a trebuchet.

spot on don't bother with the bin at all
just wait for the bin lorry to arrive and then launch the rubbish at the back of it
problem solved ...
NEXT!!! 😅😅😅

fergal.b

Might be easier to dig a tunnel under the house and have a platform lift front and back instead of a long ramp.




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Ray Palmer

It really is not as impracticable as you think. The flat roof is concrete garage roof. The criticisms are based on really exaggerating issues. The roof is very sheltered by being between 2 houses. The bins would generally be kept in the front and occasionally brought to the back. I have brought loads over the roof many times as it was easier than bringing the through the narrow alley and garage.
It is a relatively simple idea to have something I can use when needs be to bring stuff over the room to make more comfortable living. Realistically I don't need to bring stuff front to back with any regulatory. It would still be better than detached house where you have to bring everything through the house.
Of course it is not as good as just wheeling the bin out but it nowhere near as impractical as some are making out.