Idiots in funeral procession today

Tzardine

You are probably aware that the young lad killed recently in Dublin 15 was buried today.

The clip below popped up on my facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/shauna.monahan.7/posts/10209303133448389

I think its great that so many motorcyclists turned out today, I imagine that a lot did not even actually know the deceased but came out for support.

Why does there always have to be a few clowns though that give the rest a bad name. You would think that considering how the lad died, they would be a bit more respectful.

GBX

Tzardine wrote: »

You are probably aware that the young lad killed recently in Dublin 15 was buried today.

The clip below popped up on my facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/shauna.monahan.7/posts/10209303133448389

I think its great that so many motorcyclists turned out today, I imagine that a lot did not even actually know the deceased but came out for support.

Why does there always have to be a few clowns though that give the rest a bad name. You would think that considering how the lad died, they would be a bit more respectful.

How did they give others a bad name ? A few burn outs?

Tzardine

GBX wrote: »

How did they give others a bad name ? A few burn outs?

Correct. I am sure the people going about their business and using the shops were very appreciative of them though.

jimgoose

GBX wrote: »

How did they give others a bad name ? A few burn outs?

A handful of burnouts are fairly standard on these occasions. They do tend to frighten the civilians, though.

The Talking Bread

Jesus, easily offended by 3 seconds of a burnout as they allowed a distance to take place behind the hearse.

Tzardine

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Jesus, easily offended by 3 seconds of a burnout as they allowed a distance to take place behind the hearse.

I am not offended by it, . I just think it a bit thick.

I dont understand how deafening bystanders and choking them in a cloud of tyre smoke is giving him a good sendoff. As somebody that also rides, it would be the last thing I would do at a funeral.

Max Headroom

Maybe he would have liked it...:o

arybvtcw0eolkf

Tzardine wrote: »

I am not offended by it, . I just think it a bit thick.

I dont understand how deafening bystanders and choking them in a cloud of tyre smoke is giving him a good sendoff. As somebody that also rides, it would be the last thing I would do at a funeral.

Actually unfortunately I speak with a lot of experience of these things but onlookers usually love the noise, the revving & burnouts.

In the last few years I haven't been to a single funeral were we weren't welcomed by onlookers who took photos and video footage of the cortege.

Its a bikers send off to a brother, get over it.

GerryDerpy

Go way outta that OP. I don't believe in heaven but if I was up there some day looking down and my mates did a few burn outs at my funeral I would be smiling down.

Tzardine

GerryDerpy wrote: »

Go way outta that OP. I don't believe in heaven but if I was up there some day looking down and my mates did a few burn outs at my funeral I would be smiling down.

Different strokes for different folks I guess.

I would be mortified.

GerryDerpy

Tzardine wrote: »

Different strokes for different folks I guess.

I would be mortified.

That's fair enough. But it's a bit harsh to label it as a lack of respect. I think the majority of passers by would smile. A few grumps would tut and walk on.

January

How exactly did the lad die OP?

Tzardine

January wrote: »

How exactly did the lad die OP?

He was involved in a motorcycle crash with another bike. ( His friend )

But I suspect you know this so why are you asking ?

frozenfrozen

January wrote: »

How exactly did the lad die OP?

in a none of your business accident

Del2005

GerryDerpy wrote: »

A few grumps would tut and walk on.

Or start a thread complaining

harr

I have seen this at a number of funerals of people who were bikers...don't see the problem with it myself and seems a fitting send off..was at a girls funeral a number of years ago where about 30 bikes did this as the coffin was carried into the graveyard... each to their own I say.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Tzardine wrote: »

He was involved in a motorcycle crash with another bike. ( His friend )

But I suspect you know this so why are you asking ?

frozenfrozen wrote: »

in a none of your business accident

Oh come one, January doesn't visit this forum often. She's not a biker and doesn't deserve this!.

January he was killed on his bike as mentioned above. Biker funerals are usually accompanied by revving bikes, burn outs (wheel spins while stationary usually) and lots of noise to celebrate the life of the dead biker (brother/sister).

Its a very fitting way for a biker to be buried.. If the biker is in a club the club will lead the cortege, and sometimes share a drink graveside.

Biker funerals are a very bitter/sweet occasion. Mostly they're a celebration of the biker and a reminder that we're pretty bloody vulnerable.

Most notable in recent times has been Aidan Lynam who'd coffin was escorted from Limerick general hospital all the way back to Lucan, Dublin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4VF6KDdTE8

Aidan's funeral in Lucan. You'll see more rev'ing and burn outs after the two minute mark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1g5CaHUZpo

Aidan was a very dear friend of mine, may he rest in peace.

Aidan in the media

I hope this sheds more light on a bikers funeral

Tzardine

Izaiah Tender Pooch wrote: »

Oh come one, January doesn't visit this forum often. She's not a biker and doesn't deserve this!.

She had been posting in another thread discussing the accident and the lads death.She was actually the first to announce that he died. Thats why I asked her why she was asking me how he died.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=101430020&postcount=29

I agree with everything you say in your post. As I said earlier, I ride myself.

The way riders come out to pay respect to another is fantastic.

I just dont understand how doing a load of burnouts in a residential area is seen as showing respect, but it seems that I am in the minority.

eviltwin

I'm not a biker and don't really understand much about specific biker rituals but I do understand rituals and their importance to the family and friends of the deceased. I'm sure those involved in this knew the young lad who died and his family well enough to know it would be something he would want and they would appreciate. Probably it was a bit loud and might have looked a bit intimidating to members of the public but I'm sure they'll get over it. It was a terrible tragedy. Stay safe bikers xx

The Talking Bread

It was 12 pm on a busy enough road in an area that has plenty of noise and traffic at the best of times, it wasn't a quiet private cul de sac at 8 o clock in the evening.. The sound of a few bikes and revs, given the occasion and the reasons behind same, won't I imagine of bothered the residents a whole lot. Most of them would be mourning the loss of the poor young lad and would be proud to see the turnout and respect for his loss. The procession went on for a couple of minutes,.

Jimmy Bottlehead

I'm not familiar with the tradition, so Makikomi's explanation is very helpful.
OP, I thought on first viewing it was dickish too but we're just ignorant to the tradition. Every day is a school day!

lycan238

Not a biker myself but I have to raise my opinion here. Biker funerals are very respectful occasions and the traditions which have been around for many many years are a sight to behold in a good way. I was in the house of the parents of a biker a few years ago when the hearse returned with the coffin and the deceased to the house. The amount of bikers that turned out to bring the deceased home and help him on his final journey was great to see. I do not agree with comments regarding the burnout in front of the hearse being disrespectful as it may have been the wishes of the deceased for this to happen.

RIP to the deceased whose funeral was today. Stay safe bikers

January

Tzardine wrote: »

She had been posting in another thread discussing the accident and the lads death.She was actually the first to announce that he died. Thats why I asked her why she was asking me how he died.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=101430020&postcount=29

I agree with everything you say in your post. As I said earlier, I ride myself.

The way riders come out to pay respect to another is fantastic.

I just dont understand how doing a load of burnouts in a residential area is seen as showing respect, but it seems that I am in the minority.

Actually I wasn't being snarky I was being genuine. I know people who knew him hence I knew he died but not how. (Well I knew it was a motorcycle accident but not the specifics).

arybvtcw0eolkf

Tzardine wrote: »

She had been posting in another thread discussing the accident and the lads death.She was actually the first to announce that he died. Thats why I asked her why she was asking me how he died.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=101430020&postcount=29

Sorry if I came across a bit harsh, but regulars to the forum here would remember that I (and my mates) went through a particularly rough couple of years when it seemed we'd a funeral almost monthly, even my work mates were raising an eyebrow at the amount of funerals I was attending.

I'm kinda touchy about it sometimes.

Anyway, moving along.. I'm glad my explanation helped people understand what goes on.

I often say owning a bike doesn't make one a 'biker', it really does go a lot deeper than that.

Regards that lads accident, I'm curious about it myself tbh.

Poor lad, I hope he didn't suffer.

frozenfrozen

January wrote: »

Actually I wasn't being snarky I was being genuine. I know people who knew him hence I knew he died but not how. (Well I knew it was a motorcycle accident but not the specifics).

apologies for my reply then too, I thought the way it was phrased there was an anti biker type sentiment

Delta2113

Are burn out's legal?

arybvtcw0eolkf

Delta2113 wrote: »

Are burn out's legal?

Here ya go

prunudo

Some turn out, rip to the young lad.

Tzardine

January wrote: »

Actually I wasn't being snarky I was being genuine. I know people who knew him hence I knew he died but not how. (Well I knew it was a motorcycle accident but not the specifics).

Fair enough so.

From what I heard, he rode into the back of his friend that was turning right. He was wearing a helmet but did not have the clasp done up and so it came off. He broke his neck apparently and was gone by the time the ambulance turned up.

My brother knows a few of the friends and so this is what he heard.

A horrible accident and a bad way to go frankly.

Poor Uncle Tom

jimgoose wrote: »

A handful of burnouts are fairly standard on these occasions. They do tend to frighten the civilians, though.

Since when did bikers become part of the armed services?

arybvtcw0eolkf

Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »

Since when did bikers become part of the armed services?

Me (in the middle) on my Dispatch Riders course, 1986

two wheels good

How long did the leg shields last filtering at dispatch speed? Maybe you rode in formation at all times.

Hotblack Desiato

Delta2113 wrote: »

Are burn out's legal?

I'm not a lawyer, but on the grounds of "what is not forbidden is legal" I'd say yes, provided the rider remains in control of the machine, does not obstruct the public road (more than the funeral does) and does not cause a public nuisance.

Wish I'd had the opportunity to meet and know Aidan, a superlative guy by all accounts, due to kids I finished up with MAG Ireland and the rideout scene few years prior. RIP.

Love the pic Maki, at least you desisted from the crappy tache what's the machine? Not much to go on other than the alloys but I'd guess a Yam?

porsche boy

Tzardine wrote:

Correct. I am sure the people going about their business and using the shops were very appreciative of them though.

Are you be in offended on other people's behalf?

If the lad was into bikes and that then it would be a fitting tribute.

Personally I want my cremated ashes to detour through the Nurburg Ring in a Porsche tuned to 11.
Regrettably the Vatican insist I be laid to rest in a grave yard the boaring ****es.

Hotblack Desiato

You only have to obey their rules if you choose to

pablo128

I was at a funeral where there was lads doing burnouts on litre bikes at another graveside. Everyone was ok with it. It's called giving someone a proper send off.

Max Headroom

porsche boy wrote: »

Are you be in offended on other people's behalf?

If the lad was into bikes and that then it would be a fitting tribute.

Personally I want my cremated ashes to detour through the Nurburg Ring in a Porsche tuned to 11.
Regrettably the Vatican insist I be laid to rest in a grave yard the boaring ****es.[/QUOTE]


Really...are you a priest...:p

arybvtcw0eolkf

two wheels good wrote: »

How long did the leg shields last filtering at dispatch speed? Maybe you rode in formation at all times.

They were grand for filtering actually. I never rode in formation, that was for another unit who done ceremonial duties. I was more or less a glorified courier.

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Love the pic Maki, at least you desisted from the crappy tache what's the machine? Not much to go on other than the alloys but I'd guess a Yam?

Oh I have a few photos of the 80's 'tache if ya want

And yes, the bike is a Yamaha XS400. We also had the XS500 too.

After the Yamaha's we went to Kawasaki GT550's, an absolutely cracking bike for courier work. They really were a work horse. I couldn't say enough good things about them.

Then came the worse bikes I've ever rode, the awful Suzuki Bandit 600.

If the GT550 was a work horse then the Bandit was the lame donkey.. Probably a good commuter bike for a learner, but a dreadful bike for anything else.



Note no motorcycle protective gear except for the helmet and a pair of Frank Thomas gloves I bought myself because the issued gauntlets were crap.. Also notice the leather dispatch bag, they were like an old school bag but very secure.

The package on the back is my son, he was about two there (the photo was taken around 1992).. Well he's 24 now and riding a Suzuki DRZ400sm, he didn't follow me into the defence forces.

WhiskeyGoblin

Been good friends with this lad for 16 years, I don't think the revving or wheel spins were bad form or stupid at all. It's something he himself would of absolutely loved.

Pedro K

Izaiah Tender Pooch wrote: »

They were grand for filtering actually. I never rode in formation, that was for another unit who done ceremonial duties. I was more or less a glorified courier.



Oh I have a few photos of the 80's 'tache if ya want

And yes, the bike is a Yamaha XS400. We also had the XS500 too.

After the Yamaha's we went to Kawasaki GT550's, an absolutely cracking bike for courier work. They really were a work horse. I couldn't say enough good things about them.

Then came the worse bikes I've ever rode, the awful Suzuki Bandit 600.

If the GT550 was a work horse then the Bandit was the lame donkey.. Probably a good commuter bike for a learner, but a dreadful bike for anything else.



Note no motorcycle protective gear except for the helmet and a pair of Frank Thomas gloves I bought myself because the issued gauntlets were crap.. Also notice the leather dispatch bag, they were like an old school bag but very secure.

The package on the back is my son, he was about two there (the photo was taken around 1992).. Well he's 24 now and riding a Suzuki DRZ400sm, he didn't follow me into the defence forces.

Sorry it's off topic, but when I cracked the water pump cover on my bike I was waiting 5 weeks for a replacement part to arrive so I could fix it. (****ing bikeworld).

A friend and club member had an ex service GT550 lying up. He loaned it to me for the few weeks. Cracking machine. It was painted military green. I was riding through Tallaght village and a kid was eyeballing the bike and his dad said "is that cool? Wave to him." So the kid stands up and salutes!

arybvtcw0eolkf

Pedro K wrote: »

A friend and club member had an ex service GT550 lying up. He loaned it to me for the few weeks. Cracking machine. It was painted military green. I was riding through Tallaght village and a kid was eyeballing the bike and his dad said "is that cool? Wave to him." So the kid stands up and salutes!

I wonder who painted it green. So far as I know we only had them in blue and red.

Kids reactions to us in uniform is brilliant. It really delights me every time I get a wave off a child, I love it and always return the wave & you can see by their face you've just made their day

Pedro K

Izaiah Tender Pooch wrote: »

I wonder who painted it green. So far as I know we only had them in blue and red.

Kids reactions to us in uniform is brilliant. It really delights me every time I get a wave off a child, I love it and always return the wave & you can see by their face you've just made their day

As I understood it, this particular bike was actually a police bike, when in service. Whoever had it before my buddy painted it green and stuck on ammo boxes for panniers.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Pedro K wrote: »

As I understood it, this particular bike was actually a police bike, when in service. Whoever had it before my buddy painted it green and stuck on ammo boxes for panniers.

I get you now.. The cops had the GT550 and GT750 at the time.

bladespin

BorneTobyWilde wrote:

Seems Jim Crowley was badly injured at Kempton today.

Biker funeral burnout is part of the proceedings, if you don't know or understand that then ....

Tzardine

bladespin wrote: »

Biker funeral burnout is part of the proceedings, if you don't know or understand that then ....

Then......... ?

bladespin

Tzardine wrote:

Then......... ?

They have no idea what being a part of the biking community means, obvious duh.

Tzardine

bladespin wrote: »

They have no idea what being a part of the biking community means, obvious duh.

I have been riding over 15 years now. The groups that I ride it would not consider it appropriate. Thats just my opinion on it.

Saying that, I can see now that it is done commonly by others and done with good intentions.

bladespin

I'm at it over 25 years and not doing a burnout at a farewell (or wedding lol) would be considered disrespectful.
Obviously this lads group fall into this category so I'd guess he would have liked it.

hobochris

Izaiah Tender Pooch wrote: »

Sorry if I came across a bit harsh, but regulars to the forum here would remember that I (and my mates) went through a particularly rough couple of years when it seemed we'd a funeral almost monthly, even my work mates were raising an eyebrow at the amount of funerals I was attending.

I was very glad to see the back of 2015, horrible c*nt of a year.

prunudo

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