Do Irish people refer to the Islands of North West Europe

BabyE

as the 'British Isles'? Because if you do, then by defacto you are technically British, not a British national but you self-identify as belonging to the islands of Britain, therefore you are British.

Western European archipelago seems better. Makes more sense, European is an organic natural fluid term, reflecting our shared heritage and culture, it is extremely annoying when in other parts of Europe and we just get lumped in with Brits.

Buck Turgidson

No, I don't.

osarusan

Oh God not this.

shane9689

we are people living on the british isles, doesnt make us British though my friend. Just as you wouldnt call those from the faroe islands british or call Canadians americans

Steve

lol, good luck with this thread...

Atlantic Dawn

Those who refer to Derry as Londonderry do.

8-10

BabyE wrote: »

as the 'British Isles'? Because if you do, then by defacto you are technically British

I'm guessing you live in the Virgin Islands?

ThisRegard

Everyone on the west coast of Great Britain are therefore Irish because they're on the Irish Sea.

So it all balances out OP.

GLaDOS

If I live on the Canary islands, am I a Canary?

Junkyard Tom

Ireland is not a British Isle. The archaic imperial term 'British Isles' has no official status and is indeed specifically rejected by the Irish state.

Dáil Éireann, Volume 606, 28 September 2005. In his response, the Irish Minister for Foreign Affairs stated that "The British Isles is not an officially recognised term in any legal or inter-governmental sense. It is without any official status. The Government, including the Department of Foreign Affairs, does not use this term. Our officials in the Embassy of Ireland, London, continue to monitor the media in Britain for any abuse of the official terms as set out in the Constitution of Ireland and in legislation.

The term is only ever used by those who are poorly informed, living in the past, or on a wind-up crusade*.


*they'll be here shortly.

vicwatson

Please noooooooooo

I'm sticking with the Tin Islands....

Steve

God save the Queen*


*disclaimer, I do not believe in deities or monarchs, that said, game of thrones is quite entertaining.

ThisRegard

Steve wrote: »

God save the Queen*


*disclaimer, I do not believe in deities or monarchs, that said, game of thrones is quite entertaining.

The queen is real though, I've seen pictures that I'm sure weren't shopped.

vicwatson

It does wreck my head when GB companies send a package to me like ...

45 Old Road
Longford
EIRE

EIRE? Like what? Bet they don't say the same when writing to FRANCAIS or DEUTSCHLAND - it's always France or Germany at bottom line, lack of education methinks

Junkyard Tom

Steve wrote: »

* I do not believe in .. monarchs

Lots of people believe in monarchs!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pnt_uT5YzQ

The flying mouse

Green isle.





They make fabulous frozen chips, Some even stick on your shoulder.

Del2005

Everyone I know refers to it as the Island of Ireland.

Only place I hear British Isles is on/in British media, which still thinks it's a world power.

maryishere

vicwatson wrote: »

It does wreck my head when GB companies send a package to me like ...

45 Old Road
Longford
EIRE

EIRE? Like what?

Maybe its on our stamps and "An Post" postal order when you sent them payment;)

Rainman16

Why group the islands? My island is Ireland. The Island of Britain is close by, but it's a different island.

BabyE

Rainman16 wrote: »

Why group the islands? My island is Ireland. The Island of Britain is close by, but it's a different island.

Amen.

maryishere

Most worldwide would see it as a geographical term, including the dependicies of Isle of Man, Channel Islands etc.
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Isles

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

The term is only ever used by those who are poorly informed, living in the past, or on a wind-up crusade

Interestingly, according to wiki, the term "British Isles" has been used by individual ministers, as did cabinet minister Síle de Valera when delivering a speech including the term at the opening of a drama festival in 2002,;)

Maybe being a DeValera you think she was poorly informed or living in the past?

I wonder if the Tasmanians are offended those land masses are called "Australia" and not "Australia and Tasmania".

vicwatson

maryishere wrote: »

Maybe its on our stamps and "An Post" postal order when you sent them payment;)

Huh? Can you buy Irish stamps in GB to post to Republic of Ireland?

Steve

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Lots of people believe in monarchs!

mid-15c., from Middle French monarque (14c.) or directly from Late Latin monarcha, from Greek monarkhes "one who rules alone"

They are deceived.. They are not ruled, they just pay taxes to keep them in the lap of luxury... bit like we do with our government... :pac:

vicwatson

maryishere wrote: »

Maybe its on our stamps and "An Post" postal order when you sent them payment;)

You forgot this part of my post -

"Bet they don't say the same when writing to FRANCAIS or DEUTSCHLAND - it's always France or Germany at bottom line, lack of education methinks"

maryishere

vicwatson wrote: »

Huh? Can you buy Irish stamps in GB to post to Republic of Ireland?

Last time I passed through Longford on the way to the west, it was in Ireland

emo72

the Irish Isles perhaps? sounds better from me irish perspective so it does.

Junkyard Tom

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

*they'll be here shortly.

Like a bear to honey.

maryishere wrote: »

bla bla bla etc

maryishere

vicwatson wrote: »

"Bet they don't say the same when writing to FRANCAIS or DEUTSCHLAND - it's always France or Germany at bottom line, lack of education methinks"

Any letters I get from England are addressed to Ireland, not Eire. Maybe that because I call it Ireland, not Eire. You should try it too sometime if you are offended by the name on our stamps etc.

vicwatson

maryishere wrote: »

Last time I passed through Longford on the way to the west, it was in Ireland

Sssh you're not reading my posts correctly

RayM

Doesn't bother me at all when people over on the mainland call Ireland 'Eire'.

Arghus

No.

I have not a single Irish person refer to us and them collectively as "The British Isles" at any point in my life.

Not once.

Pinch Flat

RayM wrote: »

Doesn't bother me at all when people over on the mainland call Ireland 'Eire'.

Better than Southern Ireland.

RayM

RayM wrote: »

Doesn't bother me at all when people over on the mainland call Ireland 'Eire'.

It's all pretty clear in article 4 of the constitution. Why it upsets some is a mystery.

Steve

GLaDOS wrote: »

If I live on the Canary islands, am I a Canary?

Actually, no, the translation of Los Islas Canarias is 'The Islands of Dogs."

maryishere

RayM wrote: »

Doesn't bother me at all when people over on the mainland call Ireland 'Eire'.

Same here, I do not care less what terms people use, Eire, Southern Ireland, British Isles etc. Generally people know what is meant. I am not insecure enough to get offended that easily.

KERSPLAT!

maryishere wrote: »

Last time I passed through Longford on the way to the west, it was in Ireland

Your winky face key must be broken, it's firing them into every second post

Fred Swanson

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Steve

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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It's actually the Republic of Ireland..

Don't that fact hamper your rant though.

The Backwards Man

I love telling people I live in the north but I'm in the south

Fred Swanson

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maryishere

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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On stamps and coins, among other things, it is EIRE.

Is South Korea just insisting on calling itself Korea?

Is North Korea just insisting on calling itself Korea?

Was the official title of West Germany , before the wall came down, "Germany"....did they insist on leaving out the "west" bit.

Methinks we are Republic of Ireland, shortened to Ireland for short.

KERSPLAT!

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I love telling people I live in the north but I'm in the south

Northern Southern Ireland?

KERSPLAT!

Haha, this should be good.

Republic of Ireland or just Ireland?

Skylinehead

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

Haha, this should be good.

Republic of Ireland or just Ireland?

:mad:

Academic

BabyE wrote: »

as the 'British Isles'? Because if you do, then by defacto you are technically British, not a British national but you self-identify as belonging to the islands of Britain, therefore you are British.

[...]

More than a few logical flaws in that argument, I fear

maryishere

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

Haha, this should be good.

Republic of Ireland or just Ireland?

Or as others may call it, the "free state", or non-occupied Ireland, or the 26 counties.

KERSPLAT!

maryishere wrote: »

Or as others may call it, the "free state", or non-occupied Ireland, or the 26 counties.

I prefer Leprechaun Country but sure what would I know :rolleyes:

KERSPLAT!

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

Haha, this should be good.

Republic of Ireland or just Ireland?

Take your pick?

Section 2 of the 1948 Republic of Ireland Act said that: "It is hereby declared that the description of the State shall be the Republic of Ireland."

However article 4 of the constitution says that the name of the state is Éire and also Ireland.

'Republic of Ireland' is used in the football world too.

KERSPLAT!

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Take your pick?

Section 2 of the 1948 Republic of Ireland Act said that: "It is hereby declared that the description of the State shall be the Republic of Ireland."

However article 4 of the constitution says that the name of the state is Éire and also Ireland.

'Republic of Ireland' is used in the football world too.

Ireland the name, Republic the description as far as I'm aware.

I should be asleep.

Steve

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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What is FIFA? is it part of the government?