Broken arm from arm wrestling

CJmasgrande · 25-10-2016 8:52am #1

On Sunday morning at 5am my wifes phone rang. It was her 30yr old son (my stepson) telling her our other son aged 18yrs was after falling and breaking his arm while going into house to collect him from a house party.

So my 18yr old son broke his arm very badly up above the elbow on the main bone that runs up towards the shoulder. He had to have surgery yesterday with metal plates inserted. Doctor said it might take a while for full hand movement to return.

So anyway I'm not stupid. I know when you fall you break the bones between your wrist and elbow. I know the two lads at the house party where my son went are lunatics for the drink. So I persuaded my son last night to tell me what really happened and he told me on condition I never tell his mother my wife.

He was in bed asleep Saturday night. His half brother called him at 4am asked him to come and collect him from a house party. My 18yr old son stupidly got up and ended up in the house having an arm wrestling match against a hardy macho 31yr old army man.

So his arm snapped broke very badly and they made up a story that he fell on the pathway into the house.

I hate keeping secrets from my wife and family. What do you think I should do? Keep it secret for peace sake? Won't make any real difference I suppose as its not going to change things. My son with broken arm is in college hope he gets back there soon paying a fortune for that..

Jesus. · 25-10-2016 8:53am

Say nowt. You promised the lad.

Advbrd · 25-10-2016 8:57am

Listen to the true word of Jesus.

Your Face · 25-10-2016 8:59am

Talk to Joe.

tomwaterford · 25-10-2016 9:00am

I think he's talking shet ..... A broken arm from arm wrestling..

Wake up lad

Widdershins · 25-10-2016 9:01am

Telling your wife isn't going to fix his arm. What's done is done and as someone said you gave your word you'd keep it to yourself.

FTA69 · 25-10-2016 9:02am

You promised you wouldn't tell anyone so be a man and keep your word. The young lad did something stupid at a party and he's learned his lesson. There's no need to go worrying his mam.

Widdershins · 25-10-2016 9:02am

tomwaterford wrote: »

I think he's talking shet ..... A broken arm from arm wrestling..

Wake up lad

What do you think happened..? :O:confused:

Pickpocket · 25-10-2016 9:04am

Keep it quiet. Your son has enough on his plate at the moment without listening to your wife as well. He's obviously in a lot of discomfort and he's probably embarrassed and annoyed at himself. Let him heal and get back to college asap. If it's still eating at you in 6 months time then tell your wife. Hopefully she'll understand that you just wanted your son to keep focused. Getting him back to college is the number 1 priority right now.

ElChe32 · 25-10-2016 9:04am

Widdershins wrote: »

What do you think happened..? :O:confused:

Extreme fisting.

razorblunt · 25-10-2016 9:05am

Say nothing, in the scheme of things, it's not a huge deal how his arm was broken. In the longer run, he knows you've got his back.
Is that a common injury from arm wrestling though?

tomwaterford · 25-10-2016 9:07am

Widdershins wrote: »

What do you think happened..? :O:confused:

Ni idea...... But I'd imagine your wrist bones are weaker the your arm bones and would broke sooner

Some lad getting putts bed to go arm wrestling at 4am in a house party sober.... Has to be the worst attempt at a lie I've ever read

TerrorFirmer · 25-10-2016 9:07am

It can and does happen, in this case there's zero to be gained from telling your wife, it's not as if he was doing anything wrong or illegal? Just let it go, nothing to be gained for any party by you not keeping the promise you made.

gerrybbadd · 25-10-2016 9:09am

razorblunt wrote: »

Say nothing, in the scheme of things, it's not a huge deal how his arm was broken. In the longer run, he knows you've got his back.
Is that a common injury from arm wrestling though?

Yes, there are multiple videos doing the rounds of this happening, even to professional arm wrestlers.

Think the general consensus is right here OP - keep it schtum. If you tell your wife, you will have betrayed your son's trust. Besides, your wife is most likely better off not knowing what really went on to be honest.

sbsquarepants · 25-10-2016 9:17am

tomwaterford wrote: »

I think he's talking shet ..... A broken arm from arm wrestling..

Wake up lad

Exactly what I thought, but I typed it into google and sure enough up pops tons of videos of people doing just that. You live and learn.

Real question is why would your son want to keep this fairly innocuous happening from his mother - that makes no sense to me. That's what would lead me to be suspicious to be honest. (now that I know arm wrestling breaks are a real thing!)

razorblunt · 25-10-2016 9:19am

gerrybbadd wrote: »

Yes, there are multiple videos doing the rounds of this happening, even to professional arm wrestlers.

Think the general consensus is right here OP - keep it schtum. If you tell your wife, you will have betrayed your son's trust. Besides, your wife is most likely better off not knowing what really went on to be honest.

I always thought it was the elbow that would give out first.
Every day is a school day!

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 25-10-2016 9:34am

CJmasgrande wrote: »

On Sunday morning at 5am my wifes phone rang. It was her 30yr old son (my stepson) telling her our other son aged 18yrs was after falling and breaking his arm while going into house to collect him from a house party.

So my 18yr old son broke his arm very badly up above the elbow on the main bone that runs up towards the shoulder. He had to have surgery yesterday with metal plates inserted. Doctor said it might take a while for full hand movement to return.

So anyway I'm not stupid. I know when you fall you break the bones between your wrist and elbow. I know the two lads at the house party where my son went are lunatics for the drink. So I persuaded my son last night to tell me what really happened and he told me on condition I never tell his mother my wife.

He was in bed asleep Saturday night. His half brother called him at 4am asked him to come and collect him from a house party. My 18yr old son stupidly got up and ended up in the house having an arm wrestling match against a hardy macho 31yr old army man.

So his arm snapped broke very badly and they made up a story that he fell on the pathway into the house.

I hate keeping secrets from my wife and family. What do you think I should do? Keep it secret for peace sake? Won't make any real difference I suppose as its not going to change things. My son with broken arm is in college hope he gets back there soon paying a fortune for that..

If you're not stupid, you're not believing this but for the same reason you didn't believe the first one.

diomed · 25-10-2016 9:49am

The story makes more sense to me if you replace every occurrence of the words "house party" with "house".

jimgoose · 25-10-2016 9:51am

He managed to break his humerus in an arm-wrestle? Was the other fella a Terminator or something? Jaysis! Anyway, keep it quiet - no need to worry the woman with this, he'll hardly do it again. Could've been up to a lot worse. :pac:

GBX · 25-10-2016 9:53am

If she's on boards it wont matter ..

dan1895 · 25-10-2016 9:57am

Who was he arm wrestling, Jeff Goldblum?

osarusan · 25-10-2016 10:11am

razorblunt wrote: »

I always thought it was the elbow that would give out first.
Every day is a school day!

I watched a documentary on medieval torture a while ago, and one thing they talked about was The Rack (where you get tied by arms and feet and the 'stretched').

They recreated the rack experience with some pig joints and just kept tightening the ropes, and were surprised to see that it was the bone itself which gave way to pressure first, and not the joints/ligaments as they'd expected.

gimli2112 · 25-10-2016 10:14am

tomwaterford wrote: »

I think he's talking shet ..... A broken arm from arm wrestling..

Wake up lad

Seen it happen before. It was hilarious. Well not really hilarious but there was a lot of drinking.

looksee · 25-10-2016 10:16am

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Exactly what I thought, but I typed it into google and sure enough up pops tons of videos of people doing just that. You live and learn.

Real question is why would your son want to keep this fairly innocuous happening from his mother - that makes no sense to me. That's what would lead me to be suspicious to be honest. (now that I know arm wrestling breaks are a real thing!)

Because he knows there will be a full length inquest and giving out and wittering and she will never stop going on about it. Speaking as a mother.

Boom_Bap · 25-10-2016 10:18am

Honesty is the best policy. It'll come out eventually and be a bigger deal then instead of being honest now.

The lad will feel the trust is broken along with the arm, but responsibility comes before secrets sometimes.
That's just my opinion.

mahamageehad · 25-10-2016 10:21am

Jesus say nothing! It won't change what happened and won't make him heal quicker! It will break his trust in you though and that'll be a lot harder and more painful to fix than an arm!!!

Badly Drunk Boy · 25-10-2016 10:31am

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Exactly what I thought, but I typed it into google and sure enough up pops tons of videos of people doing just that. You live and learn.

Real question is why would your son want to keep this fairly innocuous happening from his mother - that makes no sense to me. That's what would lead me to be suspicious to be honest. (now that I know arm wrestling breaks are a real thing!)

Was Jeff Goldblum involved with any of these? (Although he broke the person's radius or ulna in The Fly...)

ohnonotgmail · 25-10-2016 10:34am

osarusan wrote: »

I watched a documentary on medieval torture a while ago, and one thing they talked about was The Rack (where you get tied by arms and feet and the 'stretched').

They recreated the rack experience with some pig joints and just kept tightening the ropes, and were surprised to see that it was the bone itself which gave way to pressure first, and not the joints/ligaments as they'd expected.

that doesn't even bear thinking about.

Michael D Not Higgins · 25-10-2016 10:37am

razorblunt wrote: »

I always thought it was the elbow that would give out first.
Every day is a school day!

It probably depends on the starting position. I've looked at a couple of videos of this on youtube and the 'proper' table with the elbow pads looks like it's more likely to put bending moment on the radius/ulna and you'd get a forearm fracture.

Another video was more informal and the two guys weren't facing each other directly. This looked like it was more likely to put torsion on the humerus and that gave way first.

A broken humerus from this kind of torsion causes a spiral fracture like in this x-ray due to the brittle nature of the make up of bone.

foggy_lad · 25-10-2016 10:45am

I'd be telling the wife, I'd actually talk the son into telling her then I'd pack the waster stepson's bags and throw him out on his ass.

looksee · 25-10-2016 10:51am

Leave it alone, no need to spread alarm and despondency. I have found out a couple of things that happened between 10 and 20 years ago that I didn't need to know at the time.

HellSquirrel · 25-10-2016 11:00am

Let it go. Look at this way - you tell your wife, she's worried about it and possibly has a go at him for being an eejit (which I assume various people already have!). You tell your wife and you've betrayed your son's trust and you can whistle for him being honest with you in the future if he does something daft. It's not worth it. And if it ever does come out and your wife wants to know why you didn't tell her, tell her the truth then; you knew the story as she did, but he told you in confidence about it and you didn't want to betray that for something that would make no difference as to his arm healing or not. The only reason I'd call a halt to that is if the concept of suing the path-owner came up, as that would be blatently dishonest, ofc. As is, it's harmless.

SEPT 23 1989 · 25-10-2016 11:02am

arm wrestling ffs

sounds like somebody didnt pay his drug debts

jester77 · 25-10-2016 11:03am

The lad has been punished enough. He is not going to able to wipe his ass properly or have a proper **** for the next while, amongst other things. Keep your word, or he won't be telling you of his future endeavours. Sounds like this won't be the last!

corner of hells · 25-10-2016 1:37pm

CJmasgrande wrote: »

On Sunday morning at 5am my wifes phone rang. It was her 30yr old son (my stepson) telling her our other son aged 18yrs was after falling and breaking his arm while going into house to collect him from a house party.

So my 18yr old son broke his arm very badly up above the elbow on the main bone that runs up towards the shoulder. He had to have surgery yesterday with metal plates inserted. Doctor said it might take a while for full hand movement to return.

So anyway I'm not stupid. I know when you fall you break the bones between your wrist and elbow. I know the two lads at the house party where my son went are lunatics for the drink. So I persuaded my son last night to tell me what really happened and he told me on condition I never tell his mother my wife.

He was in bed asleep Saturday night. His half brother called him at 4am asked him to come and collect him from a house party. My 18yr old son stupidly got up and ended up in the house having an arm wrestling match against a hardy macho 31yr old army man.

So his arm snapped broke very badly and they made up a story that he fell on the pathway into the house.

I hate keeping secrets from my wife and family. What do you think I should do? Keep it secret for peace sake? Won't make any real difference I suppose as its not going to change things. My son with broken arm is in college hope he gets back there soon paying a fortune for that..

Say nothing OP , use this as your free pass in the future when that young lad finds your porn history or catches you in the lap dancing club.

whoopsadoodles · 25-10-2016 1:48pm

He'll never trust you again if you mouth off after making that promise. You knew something stupid happened and you made the promise knowing that it was going to be a secret that was kept. Suck it up.

He's 18. An adult. Don't make him out to be some innocent little lad who got caught out by a big bad grown up. Whatever the reason for the arm break, he was messing himself.

gramar · 25-10-2016 1:51pm

This is the kind of thing that will come out years down the line and will be laughed about...do ya remember the time..?
Say nothing.

ted1 · 25-10-2016 1:58pm

Reminds me of this
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wMLMH7vcBGw

seamus · 25-10-2016 2:00pm

So, I originally wrote a post saying that he may have been assaulted and is trying to cover it up because I'd never heard of an upper arm break from arm wrestling.

But then,
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-12/arm-wrestling-how-easy-is-it-to-break-an-arm-explainer/6540898

So, he's probably just really embarrassed. Though fair ****s to him for holding on long enough to break his arm.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 25-10-2016 2:05pm

Yeah, don't be a sneak. If you said you wouldn't tell, don't tell. If he knows he can trust you he'll come to you if he ever needs to. If you break that don't expect to be told anything ever again. Boys will be boys.

Hammer89 · 25-10-2016 2:07pm

CJmasgrande wrote: »

On Sunday morning at 5am my wifes phone rang. It was her 30yr old son (my stepson) telling her our other son aged 18yrs was after falling and breaking his arm while going into house to collect him from a house party.

So my 18yr old son broke his arm very badly up above the elbow on the main bone that runs up towards the shoulder. He had to have surgery yesterday with metal plates inserted. Doctor said it might take a while for full hand movement to return.

So anyway I'm not stupid. I know when you fall you break the bones between your wrist and elbow. I know the two lads at the house party where my son went are lunatics for the drink. So I persuaded my son last night to tell me what really happened and he told me on condition I never tell his mother my wife.

He was in bed asleep Saturday night. His half brother called him at 4am asked him to come and collect him from a house party. My 18yr old son stupidly got up and ended up in the house having an arm wrestling match against a hardy macho 31yr old army man.

So his arm snapped broke very badly and they made up a story that he fell on the pathway into the house.

I hate keeping secrets from my wife and family. What do you think I should do? Keep it secret for peace sake? Won't make any real difference I suppose as its not going to change things. My son with broken arm is in college hope he gets back there soon paying a fortune for that..

How old is the son who broke his arm?

Miaireland · 25-10-2016 2:07pm

I wouldn't say anything. It is not going to make the injury heal faster, it is not going to make your wife feel any better and will cause a breakdown in trust between you and your stepson. Also it will probably cause your wife to worry everytime he goes out.