Best generic ivomec

Never wrestle with pigs

What do you find to be the best substitute for ivomec? Price wise and that works. Thanks

Sami23

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

What do you find to be the best substitute for ivomec? Price wise and that works. Thanks

Ivomec Classic.
Pay peanuts n you get monkey's

blue5000

Acomec here, 32/500ml. No weanlings died yet anyway. Turbomec is available at 25/500ml.

FeelTheBern

All the generic avermectins are as effective as each other and as Ivomec as exactly the same active ingredient - all you need worry about is the price.

Bass Reeves

Sami23 wrote: »

Ivomec Classic.
Pay peanuts n you get monkey's

Bullsh!t. Generics are virtually the same product maybe with a cheaper choice of base. If you want to be an idiot and pay 90 euro for Ivomec classic in the local co-op store then that is grand. I will buy the cheaper one and do them as 50kg heavier which you should be doing anyway.

Animec and Bimectin have been arounf for years. I see on Agridirect 4X250 ml ( very hand as small bottles if you only have a few cattle) bottle's of Animec are 60 euro. You can usually get 4X500mil packs of generic avermections for about 100 euro.

Ivomec plus is usually over 200 euro for a 500ml bottle. You can get Bimectin plus or Animec super for about 75/500mls. The online sites Magentdirect.ie, agridirect.ie, stockhealth.ie ,animalpharmsry.ie and there are more if you serch enough.

Never wrestle with pigs

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Animec and Bimectin have been arounf for years. I see on Agridirect 4X250 ml ( very hand as small bottles if you only have a few cattle) bottle's of Animec are 60 euro. You can usually get 4X500mil packs of generic avermections for about 100 euro.

That's what I went with after, seems like value. I used drench the last few years to offset resistance (or so I'm told it will anyway) so going back to the injection this year. Dung samples done and a very small trace of eggs. Will the dung sample also cover lung worm? Forgot to say the vet.

Base price

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

What do you find to be the best substitute for ivomec? Price wise and that works. Thanks

Bought 250ml + a "free" 100ml of Noromectin injectable for €60 today from our local Agri Store = .1714/ml. I also priced another supplier that we deal with and they have Animec 1l packs = .2147/ml?
Trodax was more or less the same price for 500ml bottles.

Count Mondego

I don't believe that all these generics are equal. In the past I've bought turbomec (pure sh1te) and bimectin (not great). Often had to dose with albex in quick succession with these where as noromectin gives a much better kill in my experience.

patsy_mccabe

Always used Noromectin here. Seems to work fine. My suckler calves never coughed at all this year. Only did them twice too, would normally do 3 times.

Cavanjack

Count Mondego wrote: »

I don't believe that all these generics are equal. In the past I've bought turbomec (pure sh1te) and bimectin (not great). Often had to dose with albex in quick succession with these where as noromectin gives a much better kill in my experience.

Using bimectin this last few years. No problems with it and it's dirt cheap. They say it's no harm to change the dosing your using on the farm every few years.

Bass Reeves

Have used generic avermectins for up on 10 years now. Biggest issue with dosing not working is lads under estimating the weights. I always dose at 50kgs heavier than what I think an animal is.

Most Oral doses are generics and lads take no notice of using them but they are swayed by Ivomec advertizing. It is always a good idea to switch away from one active product to another like when using rat poison. Immunity builds up fast especially if underestimating weight. Lots of lads forget that avermectins only kill worms do you have to do for fluke seprately. If using an avermectin plus/super you have to remember that it only kills adult fluke and you have to redo again.

I have used an avermectin plus at housing this year on the few cattle I put in for finish. I will either oral dose for fluke on Monday as they are in 5 weeks. It is about the regime more than the product.

Limestone Cowboy

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Have used generic avermectins for up on 10 years now. Biggest issue with dosing not working is lads under estimating the weights. I always dose at 50kgs heavier than what I think an animal is.

Most Oral doses are generics and lads take no notice of using them but they are swayed by Ivomec advertizing. It is always a good idea to switch away from one active product to another like when using rat poison. Immunity builds up fast especially if underestimating weight. Lots of lads forget that avermectins only kill worms do you have to do for fluke seprately. If using an avermectin plus/super you have to remember that it only kills adult fluke and you have to redo again.

I have used an avermectin plus at housing this year on the few cattle I put in for finish. I will either oral dose for fluke on Monday as they are in 5 weeks. It is about the regime more than the product.

Would have thought the opposite and that most lads would over estimate the weight Bass, definitely guilty of giving a bit extra here. Try not to use the same dose consecutively aswell. Normally do calves with Panacur and follow on then with an ivermectin shot, white dose then and back to ivermectin again after that.

Bass Reeves

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Would have thought the opposite and that most lads would over estimate the weight Bass, definitely guilty of giving a bit extra here. Try not to use the same dose consecutively aswell. Normally do calves with Panacur and follow on then with an ivermectin shot, white dose then and back to ivermectin again after that.

That kind of regime is not recommended with sheep where most of the knowledge regard immunity is from. It is recommended with sheep to use the one product for 1-2 years and then switch to a different product for next 1-2 years.

Would underestimate as well and even dose above that. But you have to remember that Mary weight is totally different to normal liveweight. I expect that most tests are done with live weights. 30-50 kgs in difference to allow for. Lad dosing cattle that come in at 350 kgs may be nearer 400kgs with a full stomach and the heavier lad in the bunch may be 420+. Was talking to ald lately who dosed 40 yearlings he taught the heavier lads were 400kgs and dosed them all at that while the lighist were under 300kgs. If that was me I would do one by one heavier lads at 450 and lighter ones at 350.

The man in red and black

Bass Reeves wrote: »

I will either oral dose for fluke on Monday as they are in 5 weeks. It is about the regime more than the product.

Oh God, we were away on the brothers stag since Friday, only finished up late Sunday night...up then this morning, three brothers dying with the ould lad on the farm trying to oral dose some stubborn suckler cows with Albex...as if we weren't dehydrated enough without that sweating it out of us more! Should really get a good headgate with a scoop!! Got them done in the end!

Willfarman

The man in red and black wrote: »

Oh God, we were away on the brothers stag since Friday, only finished up late Sunday night...up then this morning, three brothers dying with the ould lad on the farm trying to oral dose some stubborn suckler cows with Albex...as if we weren't dehydrated enough without that sweating it out of us more! Should really get a good headgate with a scoop!! Got them done in the end!

Ya might as well have stayed in the bed lads! Pure slop.. The fluke and worms laugh when they see that stuff coming down the gullet!

cute geoge

Willfarman wrote: »

Ya might as well have stayed in the bed lads! Pure slop.. The fluke and worms laugh when they see that stuff coming down the gullet!

What is it you would use for fluke and worms in cows this time of the ear so ???

Never wrestle with pigs

I used albex last year and found it very good. The dung sample afterword prooved so too. I did read sumwhere that parts of the country are building resistance to it, perhaps the se? Can't remember where exactly. If you have your own stock ie cows ect rather than a flying herd of beef in beef out I think it's very important to keep switching brands.

Allot of people think albex will do rumen fluke also and are scratching their heads a few weeks later wondering why their stock are still running very bad out the back.

Willfarman

cute geoge wrote: »

What is it you would use for fluke and worms in cows this time of the ear so ???

Levafas diamond.

Willfarman

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

I used albex last year and found it very good. The dung sample afterword prooved so too. I did read sumwhere that parts of the country are building resistance to it, perhaps the se? Can't remember where exactly. If you have your own stock ie cows ect rather than a flying herd of beef in beef out I think it's very important to keep switching brands.

Allot of people think albex will do rumen fluke also and are scratching their heads a few weeks later wondering why their stock are still running very bad out the back.

Well here to say liver fluke are Albex resistant is an understatement. Lads lost big numbers of sheep in 09. And while cattle weren't dying there were lots of chronic cases.. And vets found one thing in common on these farms..

orm0nd

Willfarman wrote: »

Well here to say liver fluke are Albex resistant is an understatement. Lads lost big numbers of sheep in 09. And while cattle weren't dying there were lots of chronic cases.. And vets found one thing in common on these farms..

it's usually inmature fluke that cause most problems with sheep , Aldendazole the active ingredient of Albex is only effective against mature

we have been using albex or tramozole in sheep for years, usually use Closantel at housing and Aldendazole 6 weeks later

I'm not saying it's the correct regime for everybody to use but reading posts on here I reckon a lot of poor results are due to misuse

As I've said in the past it's best discuss with your vet other than take advise online