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Mommy Died Last Night

  • 12-10-2016 2:33pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 268 ✭✭





    Was there really any need to stick this on Youtube?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,406 ✭✭✭sjb25


    Ah lads FFS why the need to share that with anybody let alone here/you tube


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Probably not. It wasn't vitally necessary to stick it on boards.ie either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,975 ✭✭✭Cherry Blossom


    Was there any need to stick it on here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,761 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    It would be the last thing a normal person would think of doing in a situation like this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 268 ✭✭JakeBell


    And then there's this:



    Jesus f**kin Christ!! I went on Youtube on a break for happy vids. So much for that! *Closes tab* *Remains sad*


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    This thread fills the Goose with sadness. My poor planet. My poor species. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 268 ✭✭JakeBell


    jimgoose wrote: »
    Probably not. It wasn't vitally necessary to stick it on boards.ie either.
    Was there any need to stick it on here?

    Just about exactly as necessary as your replies I'd say. Imagine that.

    The video has gone viral.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    People live on social media these days. It's like as if their "friends" don't know something happened in their lives or is happening, then they can't fully experience it. Of course the opposite is true but they can't seem to grasp that.

    There's another infuriating one where a little girl sees her sister menstruating and starts screaming as she thinks something is wrong with her and her first thought is whip out a phone and record the reaction before explaining that she is fine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    That's disgusting, the poor little boy. Having his whole world ripped out from underneath him and broadcast to the world.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,238 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Gotta get them likes, y'know?

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Musketeer4


    Reminds me of that scene in Adam and Paul where the two of them find a bag of gear and are spaced out around the city all night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,728 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Absolutely disgusting. It's unbelievable that someone would allow something to be filmed like this.

    Hold the phone sideways for landscape mode ffs...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    I despair.

    For the kid's loss.
    For the kid being surrounded by idiots like that.
    For the general lack of cop on by these people.
    For the amount of times this is going to end up on my timeline.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Videos gone viral and he's in the money now. Talkshows and radio interviews await. A ****ty thing to do. The guy is not long off drugs himself I read. Was it just me or did he pause for effect right before he told the kid?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Musketeer4


    What sort of ape is that father?
    I mean its a bad enough situation as it is but to do it out in public and then have the whole thing plastered up on youtube.
    Moron.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    What kind of f*cking moron, thinks "you know what, this is worthy of recording and uploading to the internet"


    Poor Kid :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭5rtytry56


    This YouTube video had 125 dislikes as opposed 28 likes at 4pm Wednesday 11th october when i watched it. I have also blocked the channel, Propaganda machine from making comments on my own channel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,580 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


    I'm not even gonna humour him and give him more money with a click - but gathering by the posts I can imagine...

    What a horrible thing to do....










    When are we moving to Mars?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    I don't have any issue with this stuff being filmed and broadcast per se. Nobody is forced to watch the stuff. I haven't watched video in the OP because I'm able to choose not to. Just like we all are. By watching it, you justify its existence.

    Consent is my gripe with this. Adults can post videos of themselves in a bad place as cautionary tales. They can acknowledge that the publishing of an intense personal moment may of be of wider social benefit. It may serve a good purpose.

    A child can't. Even if this kid did agree to put this video up now, 21-year-old him might think that in fact it wasn't a great idea and it should never have gone online.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭Olishi4


    seamus wrote: »
    I don't have any issue with this stuff being filmed and broadcast per se. Nobody is forced to watch the stuff. I haven't watched video in the OP because I'm able to choose not to. Just like we all are. By watching it, you justify its existence.

    Consent is my gripe with this. Adults can post videos of themselves in a bad place as cautionary tales. They can acknowledge that the publishing of an intense personal moment may of be of wider social benefit. It may serve a good purpose.

    A child can't. Even if this kid did agree to put this video up now, 21-year-old him might think that in fact it wasn't a great idea and it should never have gone online.

    It's not really a moment that should be filmed. That should be the last thing on the parents mind.

    I can't see that the motive for this was to provide any wider social benefit. It seems more like some bizarre version of munchausen by proxy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,554 ✭✭✭valoren


    A doctor and a nurse come into the waiting room to a family and telling them their father died due to complications.
    Imagine the nurse recording their immediate reactions to that news then she uploads the video to youtube.

    Two guards pull up to a house at 11pm and knock on the door. They inform the mother that their daughter has been killed in a traffic accident. Imagine one of them recorded it and uploaded it to youtube under the heading 'RAW FOOTAGE'.

    Some things are supposed to be private. That's just a line you should never cross.

    What in the world would possess him to film that? A cautionary tale? Bull****. When the son asks him 'How?' his saying that she died because of 'Drugs' should not be the misguided cautionary tale against drug abuse he believes this will be. it's the fact that using drugs, as an addict himself apparently, will **** you up to the point where you think that filming the grief of your own son at the death of his mother is a good thing. What a deluded clown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Olishi4 wrote: »
    It's not really a moment that should be filmed. That should be the last thing on the parents mind.
    You can't say that though in real terms. If the mother was an absolute absentee mess who they hadn't seen in months and then turned up dead in a house, the father could have become ambivalent, even resentful of her existence at all and the pain it causes his child.

    You can't really dictate how someone should or shouldn't be feeling. He could equally have been so angry and outraged at the mother for being so stupid that he wanted to record this video to show to other wastes of space so they could see the pain that drug addiction causes to children.

    I think the vast, vast majority of people have good intentions, even if they manifest in horrible ways. I think it's least likely that they recorded this video and put it up online so they could get imaginary online kudos.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Musketeer4


    I'm questioning now whether this is even real or is it merely a fake click bait video.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭Stealthfins


    That clip actually disturbed me.
    I'm not easily offended,that hurt.

    Typical of addicts,thinking of themselves instead of the people who love them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭Olishi4


    seamus wrote: »
    You can't say that though in real terms. If the mother was an absolute absentee mess who they hadn't seen in months and then turned up dead in a house, the father could have become ambivalent, even resentful of her existence at all and the pain it causes his child.

    You can't really dictate how someone should or shouldn't be feeling. He could equally have been so angry and outraged at the mother for being so stupid that he wanted to record this video to show to other wastes of space so they could see the pain that drug addiction causes to children.

    I think the vast, vast majority of people have good intentions, even if they manifest in horrible ways. I think it's least likely that they recorded this video and put it up online so they could get imaginary online kudos.

    Im not dictating how the father should be feeling. I am saying that it's inappropriate and the child should be allowed to have a private moment to grieve for his mother. Regardless of the father's feelings, the child is the main priority.

    You dont know the mothers situation either and already that very personal moment, has become an avenue for people online to discus and label his mother a possible "waste of space" and an "absent mess". Even if she was those things, do you think that reading that type of stuff by strangers online from seeing a snippet video won't cause him more pain?

    There would be a lot of thought put into those "good intentions" to go out of your way to get a camera and go to the effort of recording that and putting it out there for anyone to see. There are a lot of other ways you could go about highlighting the damage done to families impacted by drug abuse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    To me it looked fake, the kid took a bit too long to respond when the father told him his "Mommy died last night"

    Then if it is real it looks like the father is not allowed see the child unattended and the child is in care and if that was the case there is no way any filming would be allowed!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 268 ✭✭JakeBell


    Musketeer4 wrote: »
    I'm questioning now whether this is even real or is it merely a fake click bait video.
    foggy_lad wrote: »
    To me it looked fake, the kid took a bit too long to respond when the father told him his "Mommy died last night"

    You might be right but it is all over the news. Not that they couldn't get it wrong but the Dad is named.

    Here's the original upload.
    THIS FOR ANY AND EVERY ADDICT WITH CHILDREN. TODAY I HAD TO TELL MY 8 YEAR OLD SON THAT HIS MOMMY DIED FROM A DRUG OVERDOSE LAST NIGHT. THIS IS THE REALIZATION AND REALITY OF OUR DISEASE. DONT LET THIS DISEASE HAVE TO MAKE SOMEONE TELL YOUR CHILD THAT YOUR DEAD BECAUSE OF DRUGS. THIS WAS ONE OF THE HARDEST THINGS IVE EVER HAD TO DO. MY SON HAS NO MOTHER BECAUSE OF HEROIN... KINDA HARD TO HEAR BUT U CAN HEAR WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
    PLEASE GET HELP SO OUR CHILDREN DONT HAVE TO SUFFER. THIS WASNT STAGED. THIS WAS REAL. I HAD SOMEONE RECORD THIS SO ADDICTS WITH CHILDREN CAN SEE THE SERIOUSNES OF OUR EPIDEMIC. I AM A RECOVERING ADDICT MYSELF WITH 94 DAYS CLEAN TODAY... PLEASE SHARE N MAYBE HELP SAVE A CHILDS PARENTS LIFE.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 268 ✭✭JakeBell


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    To me it looked fake, the kid took a bit too long to respond when the father told him his "Mommy died last night"
    I'd like to think I'm pretty okay at reading things like this but when it's a boy being told his mother died I'm out. I have no f**kin idea what is normal here or how quick he 'should' respond.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    JakeBell wrote: »
    I'd like to think I'm pretty okay at reading things like this but when it's a boy being told his mother died I'm out. I have no f**kin idea what is normal here or how quick he 'should' respond.
    From telling two girls(one the same age) the same awful news I can tell you they responded wildly, almost violently as soon as the words were out. they knew from the lead up that it was something serious. If this kids mother had just died he would have known something was up by the behaviour of those around him because kids may not understand but they are as good at reading body language as anyone and know when they are not being told stuff.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    OP, you are worse for posting them here for more hits. Get a grip!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 268 ✭✭JakeBell


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    From telling two girls(one the same age) the same awful news I can tell you they responded wildly, almost violently as soon as the words were out. they knew from the lead up that it was something serious. If this kids mother had just died he would have known something was up by the behaviour of those around him because kids may not understand but they are as good at reading body language as anyone and know when they are not being told stuff.
    Sorry to hear you had to do that.

    If you're right it will become clear very soon because it's gone viral.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    JakeBell wrote: »
    Sorry to hear you had to do that.

    If you're right it will become clear very soon because it's gone viral.

    Lots of shoite goes viral for a few moments and months later is exposed as fake but nobody cares about it or even remembers it by then! I generally don't bother my arse with facebuuk or youtuuube shoite because there is no quality to it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 268 ✭✭JakeBell


    OP, you are worse for posting then here for more hits.

    Worse than who? The Dad? Get a grip on things srameen.

    I think you're worse than Hitler for your comment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,511 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    From telling two girls(one the same age) the same awful news I can tell you they responded wildly, almost violently as soon as the words were out. they knew from the lead up that it was something serious. If this kids mother had just died he would have known something was up by the behaviour of those around him because kids may not understand but they are as good at reading body language as anyone and know when they are not being told stuff.

    From a quick look through this guy's FB page it appears the story is legit but probably differs in circumstance to your own sad loss.

    The mother appears to have had no role in the son's life, she was a heroin addict. The father himself is a recovering addict but he doesn't look after the kid either. It looks very likely that the kid has been in care from a very young age. The video itself looks like it was set in some kid of care facility.

    That's an guess from his timeline but I would be fairly certain it's close to reality. It might explain the kid's numb reaction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 268 ✭✭JakeBell


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    Lots of shoite goes viral for a few moments and months later is exposed as fake but nobody cares about it or even remembers it by then! I generally don't bother my arse with facebuuk or youtuuube shoite because there is no quality to it!

    It's on the Independent, the Express, Examiner and The New York Post amongst others.

    Hopefully you're right but I think you've called this one wrong. Time will tell.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    JakeBell wrote: »
    It's on the Independent, the Express, Examiner and The New York Post amongst others.

    Hopefully you're right but I think you've called this one wrong. Time will tell.
    THey have all been caught out several times in the past by similar faked videos because they no longer do proper journalism but pander to the youtuuuube generation with clickbait crap. By the time such stories are found to be fake the original reposrt in online media are long forgotten and raising them from the deep only promoted the fakers even more.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 163 ✭✭hannible the cannible


    I found it kinda funny , I'm not sure what that says about me as a person .... ah well


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    JakeBell wrote: »
    Worse than who? The Dad? Get a grip on things srameen.

    I think you're worse than Hitler for your comment.

    Oh get over yourself. "You're worse to..." is an expression. It means you shouldn't promote it and add to this 'viral' you refer to by getting people here to look at it. Everything is described as going viral nowadays. It would appear that this wasn't as viral as you think, as many had never heard of it.

    Hitler? Well that was quick. Godwin would be really impressed.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The kids privacy means nothing to his own dad, caught up in his own 'noble' reason for posting this most private of moments.

    I feel sorry for the upcoming generation of kids who's parents have decided to completely ignore the kids right to decide for himself what kind of online exposure he wants. It's all about he parent, not the kid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 268 ✭✭JakeBell


    Everything is described as going viral nowadays. It would appear that this wasn't as viral as you think, as many had never heard of it.
    Well it's in the Independant, the Express, the Examiner, the Sun, the Mirror, the Daily Mail, the New York Post, Fox, Cosmopolitan and a ton of others. It will be in your papers tomorrow. The original video has over 26m views and is rising fast. I'm not sure what you're understanding of viral is...

    You have to understand that even the most viral of videos has to be new to people at some stage.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    Just watched the video and that guy is smoking which certainly would never be allowed in any childcare facility or any premises being visited by healthcare professionals like social care workers etc. and if he has not got custody of that child who may or may not be his son then he certainly would not be allowed to smoke in front of him! This is clearly just another of those made for likes on facebuuk videos which tries to tell the story that taking drugs will.........Kill your mommy?? but ends up being a total mess.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    JakeBell wrote: »
    Well it's in the Independant, the Express, the Examiner, the Sun, the Mirror, the Daily Mail, the New York Post, Fox, Cosmopolitan and a ton of others. It will be in your papers tomorrow. The original video has over 26m views and is rising fast. I'm not sure what you're understanding of viral is...

    You have to understand that even the most viral of videos has to be new to people at some stage.

    Just because some internet scraping journalists hacks decide it might fill space on a page they can't sell advertising on does not give such stories any legitimacy. this is most likely staged for facebuuk likes or even to make the author of the story money off their social media sites.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭Hammer89


    I'm going to film myself telling the OP that his thread is a bit distasteful and sh*t and put it on YouTube.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭jonon9


    Just another one of them moments where everything has to be posted on social media for the world to see, whatever happened to them private moments we as a species get more disgraceful as the years go bye.


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