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Do i need new driver.

  • 10-10-2016 6:47pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭


    I am playing a tm burner 2007 model.
    http://www.golfbidder.co.uk/models/3043/Taylor_Made_Driver_Burner_(2007).html
    I hit it fairly consistent . However I would out hit my playing partners with my irons and fairway woods but would be same length and sometimes shorter . Would I notice a different in driving distance with something like tm sldr or ping g30. Thanks in advance.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Montgolfier


    I am playing a tm burner 2007 model.
    http://www.golfbidder.co.uk/models/3043/Taylor_Made_Driver_Burner_(2007).html
    I hit it fairly consistent . However I would out hit my playing partners with my irons and fairway woods but would be same length and sometimes shorter . Would I notice a different in driving distance with something like tm sldr or ping g30. Thanks in advance.

    You would benifit with the forgiveness of a g30 as in an off center hit on the burner won't travel far. Where as a lot of newer drivers have distance gains from poorly struck shots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭tritriagain


    You would benifit with the forgiveness of a g30 as in an off center hit on the burner won't travel far. Where as a lot of newer drivers have distance gains from poorly struck shots.
    I mostly hit driver consistently same distance even if it goes left or right. Do you think distance woulld increase on well hit shots.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Montgolfier


    I mostly hit driver consistently same distance even if it goes left or right. Do you think distance woulld increase on well hit shots.

    Toe and heel strikes you will see a straighter and longer ball flight. I had an R11s and I noticed the difference straight away when I hit the g30 out of the toe I was expecting a big hook but it went straight.
    Your left right shots could be your own swing, all I'm saying is I noticed a difference on ball flight when I hit (not on purpose) off center on the club face.
    Center strike distance gains won't be as apparent as all clubs are limited by COR which measures how much rebound there is off the face.
    The only big gains are on off center strikes which on average will increase your driver distance. I'll shut up now that's enough geek talk.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 222 ✭✭luvthegame


    I am playing a tm burner 2007 model.
    http://www.golfbidder.co.uk/models/3043/Taylor_Made_Driver_Burner_(2007).html
    . Would I notice a different in driving distance with something like tm sldr or ping g30. Thanks in advance.

    TM Sldr is not a club for amateurs IMO. It is extremely unforgiving.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭tritriagain


    luvthegame wrote: »
    TM Sldr is not a club for amateurs IMO. It is extremely unforgiving.

    Would ye recimmend the ping g30. Is it worth the money . Is there much difference from g20.
    Or any other suggestions. Thanks for advice so far.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    I should have taken a picture of the club face of my g30 after a drive on the 10th holes last week. The ball mark was millimetres from the hosel and so high up that the dimple marks were onto the edge of the crown. Stil landed on the middle of the fairway only 20 yards less than normal.
    It felt horrible but Jesus that driver can make a bad golfer look good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,893 ✭✭✭alxmorgan


    Would ye recimmend the ping g30. Is it worth the money . Is there much difference from g20.
    Or any other suggestions. Thanks for advice so far.

    I had the SLDR and it was by far the longest driver I ever hit but very unforgiving. Have the R15 now and it is as long give or take but far more forgiving. If you are investing I would recommend getting custom fit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 222 ✭✭luvthegame


    For me not much difference between g25 and g30.
    i25 also a very good club

    Callaway xhot is a fine driver and cheap

    Personally, unless you are a really good player, I think you could buy something from 2012/2013 and it wont be much different to any of the new drivers out today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 668 ✭✭✭Dtoffee


    I recently invested in a 2015 version of the Callaway Xr driver and I can certainly say it des what it says on the tin ... its added consistency and 20 plus yards to my drive. Before that I was using the Nike Covert and got a lot if height with it, the guys in American Golf let me hit a few shots with different drivers and the Xr suited me best. Club head speed seems to be the difference, and the Callaway feels lighter.

    I would say change without hesitation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,554 ✭✭✭valoren


    Are there any upcoming demo days where you?

    Just to get a feel for the latest and greatest in new Drivers?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭tritriagain


    Just got an email from mcguirks to Sat they have tm r15 for 169. Might go have a luck in morn.Any one have any opinions on the r15


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 448 ✭✭spoke2cun


    I too am looking for a driver. I have the taylormade r7 since 2007! Don't want to buy new but would like to upgrade. If the ping G30 is a good forgiving club then I would definitely consider it. I don't lack in distance but forgiveness is what I'm looking for. Plus a few extra yards with a newer driver wouldn't be a bad thing! What type of shaft Reg or stiff?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭Walter Alright


    I bought a G30 this year and I love it. Its very forgiving, great distance and it just feels great in my hand.

    I bought a TM SLDR last year, when I made a great connection my drives were longer than I had previously hit. My mis hits were an absolute disaster with it, I traded it for the G30 and I'm delighted with the results.

    I was gonna buy a G25 as I heard they are a great driver also but a good offer was available on the G30 and I couldn't leave it behind.

    Go for it!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 448 ✭✭spoke2cun


    I've checked out some of the prices for the Ping G30 on ebay and they're all ranging from €110-€200 or so. I'd be trading in my own driver so this would help bring the cost down another bit. While we're on the subject, are there any other quite forgiving drivers out there?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donal55


    New drivers go further☺
    As an aside radio van and buntings outside Progolf Athlone today advertising Taylormade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭tritriagain


    Bought tm r15 on Sat morning . Was off for a few days so played Sat. Took a while to get used to. Played Sun came second in club comp. Difficult conditions. Beaten on countback. Wasn't as wild as with old driver but still some loose ones. I bought the 12deg driver. Went out this afternoon and increased loft to 12.75. The worst I could do was fade the ball but most were dead straight. Didn't seem to lose distance. Will know better when I play with reg playing partners. Cut from 18 to 16. Happy days


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    Bought tm r15 on Sat morning . Was off for a few days so played Sat. Took a while to get used to. Played Sun came second in club comp. Difficult conditions. Beaten on countback. Wasn't as wild as with old driver but still some loose ones. I bought the 12deg driver. Went out this afternoon and increased loft to 12.75. The worst I could do was fade the ball but most were dead straight. Didn't seem to lose distance. Will know better when I play with reg playing partners. Cut from 18 to 16. Happy days

    Congrats on the cut.

    Re the driver, look at the weights in the head too. If you're looking for forgiveness make sure that you have the weights as far apart as possible. Will likely knock a fraction off distance but makes sure that the off centre strikes are a bit better


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭tritriagain


    Congrats on the cut.

    Re the driver, look at the weights in the head too. If you're looking for forgiveness make sure that you have the weights as far apart as possible. Will likely knock a fraction off distance but makes sure that the off centre strikes are a bit better

    started out with weights as far a part as possible set at 12deg. had a strong fade sometimes a slice but put it to 12.75 and weighs together for max distance and was delighted with results. dont think i lost much (any) distance. hard to know cos it was very windy but will have a better idea when playing with reg playing partners. while i was after more distance originally, i will take the increased accuracy everytime. the game is a lot easier played off fairways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 448 ✭✭spoke2cun


    I have a 13 degree, stiff flex, Taylormade rbz 3 wood. I hit this as far as my 10.5 degree Taylormade r7 driver. The flight of the 3 wood is lower than the driver? Shouldn't a Taylormade rbz driver increase my distance over the r7?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭mike12


    spoke2cun wrote: »
    I have a 13 degree, stiff flex, Taylormade rbz 3 wood. I hit this as far as my 10.5 degree Taylormade r7 driver. The flight of the 3 wood is lower than the driver? Shouldn't a Taylormade rbz driver increase my distance over the r7?

    Maybe not. The rbz had a really long shaft so was hard to control but it was long.
    Shaft will dictate launch angle just as much as loft.
    Drivers are designed to get the ball airborne so a 10 degree rbz will probably still launch higher than the 3 wood.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 448 ✭✭spoke2cun


    How would a 3 wood shaft with a driver head work? Both being TM RBZs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭opinionated3


    spoke2cun wrote: »
    How would a 3 wood shaft with a driver head work? Both being TM RBZs.

    I would also be interested to see people's opinion on this. I currently use the g30 driver with the standard ping stiff shaft. However i also use the tm rbz stage 2 3 and 5 woods and they have a way better, distance producing ball flight. I have lowered the loft on the g30 but this hasn't really resulted in any gains. Having that said it's the most forgiving driver I've ever used. ...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Montgolfier


    I would also be interested to see people's opinion on this. I currently use the g30 driver with the standard ping stiff shaft. However i also use the tm rbz stage 2 3 and 5 woods and they have a way better, distance producing ball flight. I have lowered the loft on the g30 but this hasn't really resulted in any gains. Having that said it's the most forgiving driver I've ever used. ...

    I think we associate loft with distance but for me anyway anything below 10.5 deg is a waste of time. I also bought the Ping G30 9 deg but I leaked a lot of shots right. Even at he large plus I struggled. I've since bought a cobra f6+ I set it at 10.5 and happy days. One other difference is the shaft seems a lot whipper the Ping shaft stiff is harsh I find.
    If you put a 3 wood shaft you will probably lose distance as the head of a driver is much bigger creates drag add a shorter heavier shaft can only slow things down losing distance. Plus you will screw up the swing weight.
    A fairway wood shaft raw is the same length as a driver shaft raw but heavier75 to 85grams. The shaft is cut an inch or 2 from the thin end (tipped) to make it stiffer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    I would also be interested to see people's opinion on this. I currently use the g30 driver with the standard ping stiff shaft. However i also use the tm rbz stage 2 3 and 5 woods and they have a way better, distance producing ball flight. I have lowered the loft on the g30 but this hasn't really resulted in any gains. Having that said it's the most forgiving driver I've ever used. ...

    The g30 is essentially built to get the ball airborne though isn't it. I've generally found that any ping wood I've tried out has launched the ball very high.

    They do tend to produce very consistent results, though for me at least, they have always been shorter than the titleist or TM models.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭opinionated3


    The g30 is my first ping wood. Tbh I'm very happy with it. I'm hitting a lot more fairways with it than my old tm sldr. I think an earlier poster may be right in saying that the ping stiff shaft is a little"harsh" so to speak. It just seems to launch the ball way too high compared to my fairway woods and that seems to cost me some yards. Has anyone any similar experience and if so how did you remedy it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 448 ✭✭spoke2cun


    mike12 wrote: »
    Maybe not. The rbz had a really long shaft so was hard to control but it was long.
    Shaft will dictate launch angle just as much as loft.
    Drivers are designed to get the ball airborne so a 10 degree rbz will probably still launch higher than the 3 wood.

    So what driver will go further than my TM RBZ 3 wood?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    Pretty much any modern driver should hit it further than an rbz 3w.

    I used to play that 3wood & my r15 driver was, on average 15-20yrds longer than it. From Game Golf, for my last 15 rounds, my driver average off the tee is 19yrds longer than 3w average.

    That doesn't mean an R15 will yield the same results for you though.

    Realistically, no one on here will be able to tell you a definitive answer though. You have 2 options in terms of what to do as far as I can see:
    • A big part is going to be down to consistency of contact. 3wood is a shorter club, so you're probably statistically speaking, more likely to hit it out of the sweet spot. With new drivers, yes you're getting extra forgiveness outside of the sweetspot, but in terms of flight & distance, you need to be hitting it from the right part of the face. A couple of lessons may solve your problem without the need for a new driver.
    • If you're set on a club change, really you probably need to go get a driver fitting to get to the best end result for you. No one on here will be able to give you a definitive answer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,893 ✭✭✭alxmorgan


    spoke2cun wrote: »
    So what driver will go further than my TM RBZ 3 wood?

    One that is fit correctly for you. A lot of sense in what Space says above especially strike.
    If you can afford a fitting get on a launch monitor like Trackman and a good pro can get you sorted quick enough. Shaft can make a huge difference as well.

    I was averaging 3000 spin on my driver and a quick shaft changed dropped that to 2000 and results in a far more penetrating flight and more distance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭mike12


    Did ye not get fitter for the drivers, as far as I know most shaft changes for the ping drivers were included in the price.
    Even get a retro fit now to improve the ball flight.


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