Titleist 917

FixdePitchmark

She is on the way - and things got even more interesting around sure fit.

Love the 915.

But this is totally new idea again by the boffins at Titleist.

BigChap1759

US price seems to be $499 so get ready for this to be another €500+ driver :(

luvthegame

Wasn't a huge fan of the 915 driver compared to other top brands but thought the 915F was the best fairway i've ever hit

FixdePitchmark

Keano

I've a 913 and do I love the thing! Would love to try the 917 but more important things needed

FixdePitchmark

Keano wrote: »

I've a 913 and do I love the thing! Would love to try the 917 but more important things needed

Seen today that 915 - this has ARC technology is now 319 euro prior to this new one coming out.

I know it is all crazy money - but a 915 under 300 euro will soon be on - and the stock shafts are excellent.

I'd say I will get a 917 about 6 months in when I can get a demo or 2nd hand one.

But - at 500 euro - or whatever it will be - I won't pay that.

callaway92

What does it do?

More forgiving? Further distance? Black face?

They're all the same

frink

Have the 913 and love it. Don't know how I could justify spending €500+ on a new one 2 years later for probably only an additional yard or two. Just needs a new shaft every 3-4 years

Senna

callaway92 wrote: »

What does it do?

More forgiving? Further distance? Black face?

They're all the same

No they are not the same, engineers have move 0.0002g of metal into a different place inside the head, it will make a huge difference, you will hit this 18 yards further and split every fairway. All for the low low price of €500+:eek:

Letree

Don't be so cynical, golf is a hobby some people like to drink their money others buy shoes and clothes. Many golfers like to buy new clubs. Besides the psychological aspect of the game is massive and sometimes a new club can be the catalyst to get your game back on track. I bought new irons a few years back and it helped my game a lot.

BigChap1759

Letree wrote: »

Don't be so cynical, golf is a hobby some people like to drink their money others buy shoes and clothes. Many golfers like to buy new clubs. Besides the psychological aspect of the game is massive and sometimes a new club can be the catalyst to get your game back on track. I bought new irons a few years back and it helped my game a lot.

Here here, too many equipment begrudgers on here

jtown

Interesting club - Would definitely like to try it.

Have been keeping my stats on GameGolf for over 80 rounds

Got a new set of irons last year and seen a improvement of 10 yards per club straight away.

My Driver average is 228 with my TM R11 which is now considered an old driver.

All the lads i play golf with say I need to increase distance with driver - my irons are better than theirs off lower hanidcap but driver is killing me.

Think ill go test this out and see :rolleyes:

FixdePitchmark

callaway92 wrote: »

What does it do?

More forgiving? Further distance? Black face?

They're all the same

Look I know it is mostly bolixology and the price is now actaully like buying a first car. So past daft at this point. I wouldn't spend it.

But - I wouldn't underestimate the changes in last 5 years of adjustable drivers. They do change spin - they do change ball flight.

This could seriously help someone who has say a weak fade / slice. Also - while they are at the limits - the modern driver can be incredibly forgiving across a very large part of the face.

So - yes off the wall to spend this much on a club - go out get ten lessons and spend it on practice/balls.

Many of the videos you see online are people hitting a ball - this in itself is a daft test, as you will swing differently if you think a club is new / different. The shafts are never the same too.

It is interesting that as Crossfield has become part of the industry now - he "seems" to say less of the honest things he used to say.

So yes, drivers at limits of how far they can go - but I wouldn't underestimate the help larger areas on the face and spin control could offer to us hackers.

But everyone says SureFit is a brilliant product - so there will be interest from anyone who had it on their next product. This driver has a new surefit CG.

Now after saying all that - as I was changing my swing last 3 years - I decided to place SureFit in the neutral position as I wanted to keep on variable on ball flight the same.


So - I can see people going for it - but crazy at that price.

FixdePitchmark

jtown wrote: »

Interesting club - Would definitely like to try it.

Have been keeping my stats on GameGolf for over 80 rounds

Got a new set of irons last year and seen a improvement of 10 yards per club straight away.

My Driver average is 228 with my TM R11 which is now considered an old driver.

All the lads i play golf with say I need to increase distance with driver - my irons are better than theirs off lower hanidcap but driver is killing me.

Think ill go test this out and see :rolleyes:

I'd go to a pro first - see if something in your swing causing a loss in power.

I went to a lesson the other day and was something so simple and was fixed in minutes.

callaway92

Letree wrote: »

Don't be so cynical, golf is a hobby some people like to drink their money others buy shoes and clothes. Many golfers like to buy new clubs. Besides the psychological aspect of the game is massive and sometimes a new club can be the catalyst to get your game back on track. I bought new irons a few years back and it helped my game a lot.

It's mostly psychological

Senna

BigChap1759 wrote: »

Here here, too many equipment begrudgers on here

Yeah but if anyone wants to give me any new equipment so you can prove to me its better, I won't complain:)

FixdePitchmark

callaway92 wrote: »

It's mostly psychological

When you change - Centre of gravity - loft and lie , it is mostly "Physicsandlogical".

Senna

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

When you change - Centre of gravity - loft and lie , it is mostly "Physicsandlogical".

Great the way they make a break through in physics every 2nd year.

jtown

Are people excited!

Anyone know how much it is going to cost?

BigChap1759

€499 is what I've heard :rolleyes:

Hoboo

Senna wrote: »

Great the way they make a break through in physics every 2nd year.

In reality they have numerous 'break throughs' already, ready to go.....they just stagger their release every 2nd year. The 2020 driver has already been made.

jtown

BigChap1759 wrote: »

€499 is what I've heard :rolleyes:

Talking 600 notes so with a custom fit!:mad:

martinkop

Out today. €461 online at golfsupport

jtown

Not too bad really!
But to go and get fitted (which you would have to)

How much more would it be say to go to Titleist fitting centre

BigChap1759

martinkop wrote: »

Out today. €461 online at golfsupport

€449 from McGuirks

midnight city

Senna wrote: »

Great the way they make a break through in physics every 2nd year.

All the major companies manage it too. Amazing really. Taylor Made have these breakthroughs 2 or 3 times a year..

Dbu

martinkop wrote: »

Out today. €461 online at golfsupport

Big bucks for something you will probably hit 15 times max in a round imo

jtown

http://www.titleist.co.uk/917launchevents

jtown

Dbu wrote: »

Big bucks for something you will probably hit 15 times max in a round imo

Yes but you may not use the rest of your clubs unless you get the 1st shot correct and in play :D

FixdePitchmark

Dbu wrote: »

Big bucks for something you will probably hit 15 times max in a round imo

Hitting fairways and greens is underestimated in golf.

Big - money I agree.

over 300 - was crazy stuff.

near 500 is Lady Gaga.

Senecio

I'll stick with my 913D3 that I picked up 2nd hand for €139 about 12months back. Can't see anything worthy of a upgrade. However I have OCD so upgrading the 913F and the 913H would cost a mortgage.

jtown

Anyone lucky enough to get fitted yet.

BigChap1759

midnight city wrote: »

All the major companies manage it too. Amazing really. Taylor Made have these breakthroughs 2 or 3 times a year..

It baffles me why people take the time to post begrudging comments when new and expensive clubs are released......let us have our fun and be happy and smugly satisfied that you're too clever to fall for the marketing nonsense.....:cool:

BigChap1759

Senecio wrote: »

I'll stick with my 913D3 that I picked up 2nd hand for €139 about 12months back. Can't see anything worthy of a upgrade. However I have OCD so upgrading the 913F and the 913H would cost a mortgage.

Well done you, you sound very canny

Hoof Hearted2

BigChap1759 wrote: »

It baffles me why people take the time to post begrudging comments when new and expensive clubs are released......let us have our fun and be happy and smugly satisfied that you're too clever to fall for the marketing nonsense.....:cool:

It's a begrudging comment in your opinion and lets be honest you and others who hold that opinion are exactly who the marketing gurus are trying to target.
Club performance is tightly governed by RANDA regulations, there is zero scope for performance improvement and any claim to that effect is just simply marketing.
If you or any one else wants to "treat" themselves to a shiny new toy, then by all all means do so, but do it with open eyes, you are paying for a club that performs more or less the same as a 10 year club, that's just been redesigned with bells and whistles in the sole objective to get you to part with your hard earned.

Rikand

BigChap1759 wrote: »

It baffles me why people take the time to post begrudging comments when new and expensive clubs are released......let us have our fun and be happy and smugly satisfied that you're too clever to fall for the marketing nonsense.....:cool:

I think hes more begrudging of the people who have the disposable income to fall for the marketing nonsense in the first place. Pangs of jealousy from the original poster imo

BigChap1759

Hoof Hearted2 wrote: »

It's a begrudging comment in your opinion and lets be honest you and others who hold that opinion are exactly who the marketing gurus are trying to target.
Club performance is tightly governed by RANDA regulations, there is zero scope for performance improvement and any claim to that effect is just simply marketing.
If you or any one else wants to "treat" themselves to a shiny new toy, then by all all means do so, but do it with open eyes, you are paying for a club that performs more or less the same as a 10 year club, that's just been redesigned with bells and whistles in the sole objective to get you to part with your hard earned.

Thank you kind sir for your permission

FixdePitchmark

Rikand wrote: »

I think hes more begrudging of the people who have the disposable income to fall for the marketing nonsense in the first place. Pangs of jealousy from the original poster imo

Jesus that all escalated - is that me .

Yes - there is little or no difference from the 917 to 915. Well - there would be, if you had your own trackman and spent a few weeks - working out the best COG for you.

But - don't let anyone be fooled, modern drivers are very forgiving across the face - yes there are COR limits and additional R&A limits - but anyone who had a 915, will tell you how it is amazing how you can hit it across face and not be a great hit and get a result.

If you see a 915 around cheap - pick one up is what I would say. Sure fit , shaft quality and finish is top of the range.

Great club.

Montgolfier

I'll probably be shot for mentioning this here but anyone I see on tour seems to be going for the M2 McIlroy will be using it this week at the HSBC. Harrington and Lowry are using one also even though they are contracted to OEM. Bought a cobra f6+ myself love the dead sound off it, I heard the older 910 had a similar sound but the newer titlest models have that awful tinny sound.

Benicetomonty

Montgolfier wrote: »

I'll probably be shot for mentioning this here but anyone I see on tour seems to be going for the M2 McIlroy will be using it this week at the HSBC. Harrington and Lowry are using one also even though they are contracted to OEM. Bought a cobra f6+ myself love the dead sound off it, I heard the older 910 had a similar sound but the newer titlest models have that awful tinny sound.

Fairly sure Harro used a TM Aeroburner to win last week. Agree in general though, the M2 seems to be hugely popular.

benny79

Buying a driver is like buying a new car, theirs nothing wrong with your old car, but you just want to treat yourself to a new one

Boy & their toys....

jtown

Dying the hear feedback from anyone who has tried it

FixdePitchmark

Tried it today.

Lovely club and hit it well.

Only thing is it had the new Fujikura Speeder Pro TS 74 - Shaft in it.

So was like chalk and cheese and a much heaver shaft I would play. (50% more weight in shaft)

In fact - I was more interested in the fact the shaft was so different and better flight - more draw then hook.

It sort of reminded me that - a fitting every 4 years for a driver is too long - with the changes you bring into your game.

Anyway - very nice club and great shafts in it.

Noticed that you can get that 915 - now for about 250 to 300 - that Is a great deal.

Hoof Hearted2

BigChap1759 wrote: »

Thank you kind sir for your permission

Your welcome my son, I hope it brings you all the happiness you like so deserve;):pac:

newport2

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Noticed that you can get that 915 - now for about 250 to 300 - that Is a great deal.

If anyone's interested, McGuirks in Leopardstown driving range have some ex-demo 915 D2's for €199.

Loire

Benicetomonty wrote: »

Fairly sure Harro used a TM Aeroburner to win last week. Agree in general though, the M2 seems to be hugely popular.

I picked up an M1 over the weekend. Had a Titleist 910 but the M1 was miles longer. Bad hits matched my good hits with the 910, but good hits (and there were many) were 15 - 20 yards longer....

jtown

So have asked my club pro to book me into Carton to get fitted for new 917

Any one been to Carton for a fitting recently?

jtown

http://0to300golf.blogspot.ie/2016/11/testing-titleist-917-d3-driver-against.html?m=1

FixdePitchmark

jtown wrote: »

http://0to300golf.blogspot.ie/2016/11/testing-titleist-917-d3-driver-against.html?m=1

Have to say - that is a fairly poor report for the 917. :eek:

From that, you could conclude go out and buy a 2nd hand 915.

BigChap1759

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Have to say - that is a fairly poor report for the 917. :eek:

From that, you could conclude go out and buy a 2nd hand 915.

It's a pointless test as the main point of the 917 is to be able to dial in the specs by using the surfefit thingy - for a fitter to be able to optimize a player's launch conditions ie optimize launch angle and spin rate.

Buying off the rack is a waste of money

FixdePitchmark

BigChap1759 wrote: »

It's a pointless test as the main point of the 917 is to be able to dial in the specs by using the surfefit thingy - for a fitter to be able to optimize a player's launch conditions ie optimize launch angle and spin rate.

Buying off the rack is a waste of money

But isn't that ultimate useless snake oil.

With a new club up to now, you could at least see a marginal improvement - here there is none within the tolerance of the test.

Yes the club is about the COG addition - but it is a basic admittance it is the same club as 915 - so it is 915 with COG.

If you were a top level golfer and had access to a trackman regularly you could work on COG - but are we saying we are going to turn up in car, hit a few balls and get a club fit for how you are on that day with all the ills of dynamic loft, grip plane . Then to add to that - if you make any swing changes or get lessons - the cog set up could be wrong.

Anyway - I like new things - but a basic requirement for me would be the data in neutral is an improvement. It isn't there . And , I know COG is great technology - but you are getting into an adjustment you will not be able to make in a practical way yourself - like you could on surefit.