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Incapacitated child credit = social welfare?

  • 21-09-2016 11:53am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭


    Apologies if this sounds nonsense but just want to know if incapacitated child tax credit is a form of social welfare payment/assistance. I recently applied for naturalisation as irish citizen and ticked no when asked "have you ever received a social assistance payment or other state support?"

    Dont know why it just struck me whether i have made a mistake. I don't want to withold any information. I could still write to them if this is considered state support.

    Will appreciate you guys input.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    According to this page, a "social assistance payment" is a term for a means-tested payment that you received. If an incapacitated child tax credit is not means tested (i.e, you would get it regardless of your income), or awarded to the child rather than to you, then it would not count as a "social assistance payment", but it might count as another form of state support. My guess is that it's an understandable error and a difficult case; I have not been able to find any obvious guidance on this on the Internet, myself. If I were you I'd consult a solicitor with experience in naturalisation (and when I do my application, I will do so myself for safety's sake).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭kayser


    Speedwell wrote: »
    According to this page, a "social assistance payment" is a term for a means-tested payment that you received. If an incapacitated child tax credit is not means tested (i.e, you would get it regardless of your income), or awarded to the child rather than to you, then it would not count as a "social assistance payment", but it might count as another form of state support. My guess is that it's an understandable error and a difficult case; I have not been able to find any obvious guidance on this on the Internet, myself. If I were you I'd consult a solicitor with experience in naturalisation (and when I do my application, I will do so myself for safety's sake).

    Thank you very much. I will ask a solicitor. Guess i would also send citizenship a letter letting them know about my tax credits and see how they take it. Hope it wouldnt be a problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,284 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Ahh, you know that you also get tax credits for breathing (ie being alive in Ireland) and for being a PAYE worker. If you're doing to declare the IC credit, you should include the others too.

    That said, I don't believe that any tax credit is considered to be a social assistance payment. Because it's not a payment as such. It's refund of tax that you would have have been liable for due to your income. If you didn't earn enough to pay the tax, you won't be getting the tax credit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭kayser


    Ahh, you know that you also get tax credits for breathing (ie being alive in Ireland) and for being a PAYE worker. If you're doing to declare the IC credit, you should include the others too.

    That said, I don't believe that any tax credit is considered to be a social assistance payment. Because it's not a payment as such. It's refund of tax that you would have have been liable for due to your income. If you didn't earn enough to pay the tax, you won't be getting the tax credit.

    Thank you. Have been panicking over this all day. You put my mind at ease. Hopefully the department will not take it against me if i didnt declare it as assistance. I guess i would be able to explain my point of view if they asked.


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