Alleged hacker Lauri Love to be extradited to US

Nomis21

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-suffolk-37385201

I think it is an outrage to send a man with mental illness to the US when in any case it is the Americans lack of security that is the biggest crime.

They should be grateful that he exposed their weaknesses instead of a hostile foreign power hacking them.

SEPT 23 1989

he is not mentally ill

far from it

Gatling

Kinda odd these hackers and facilitators of drugs and child porn seen to suffer autism and depression ,

But if he was happy to do what he did he should then be happy to face the consequences of his actions and not hide behind mental health issues

Nomis21

It was mentioned that he has Asperger's syndrome but that's not the main issue.

He did not steal anything of material value to himself.

The Americans will effectively send him to jail for life due to their own embarrassment.

OK if he sold secrets to a foreign power, but all he did was expose their own security weaknesses.

What other country sends people away for life for non-violent crimes...?

Galwayguy35

Well if he didn't hack anything he would be fine, do the crime do the time.

ScumLord

Nomis21 wrote: »

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-suffolk-37385201

I think it is an outrage to send a man with mental illness to the US when in any case it is the Americans lack of security that is the biggest crime.

They should be grateful that he exposed their weaknesses instead of a hostile foreign power hacking them.

If someone broke into your house but didn't steal anything would you put that down to your own mistake and be ok with it?

Having said that he probably doesn't deserve life in an American jail over it.

Stheno

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Well if he didn't hack anything he would be fine, do the crime do the time.

Exactly

GLaDOS

They should be giving him a job

Nomis21

ScumLord wrote: »

If someone broke into your house but didn't steal anything would you put that down to your own mistake and be ok with it?

Having said that he probably doesn't deserve life in an American jail over it.

If I left my door wide open for months on end , yes, I would expect some interest from people who noticed it.

I don't think that the FBI or NASA should be so careless with their security. They too have a responsibility, but again, that's not the main point.

This is a non-violent crime with no self gain committed outside the US.

Do you think any other country would be able to extradite him from the UK? Plain Bully-Boy tactics.

Stheno

Nomis21 wrote: »

If I left my door wide open for months on end , yes, I would expect some interest from people who noticed it.

I don't think that the FBI or NASA should be so careless with their security. They too have a responsibility, but again, that's not the main point.

This is a non-violent crime with no self gain committed outside the US.

Do you think any other country would be able to extradite him from the UK? Plain Bully-Boy tactics.

It doesn't say he hacked NASA?

ScumLord

Nomis21 wrote: »

I don't think that the FBI or NASA should be so careless with their security. They too have a responsibility,

I'm sure they take very seriously. But that doesn't mean they can't make mistakes, especially given the size of their systems. Don't they also give out rewards to people that come to them with exploits rather than exploit them.

Elmer Blooker

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Well if he didn't hack anything he would be fine, do the crime do the time.

crime?

He was first arrested at home in Suffolk in 2013 and had computer equipment seized by British police, who then released him on bail.
He was not charged in the UK, where the investigation into him was dropped.

released on bail ... not charged in UK .. investigation dropped ... yet the UK authorities agree to extradite him. I don't get it?

Mr. FoggPatches

If he didn't have asbergers, would he be extradited?
If the answer is no, then neither should he
If the answer is yes, then he should
Equality works both ways.

Stheno

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

crime?

released on bail ... not charged in UK .. investigation dropped ... yet the UK authorities agree to extradite him. I don't get it?

Think the jurisdiction is the states as that's where the hacked organisations are?!

Wasn't there another hacker like this who won an appeal against extradition? Gary McKinnon

gctest50

GLaDOS wrote: »

They should be giving him a job

Why would ya ? he's not any good if he got caught ffs

Galwayguy35

Stanley Jobson wouldn't have got caught, he hacked into the FBI while getting a BJ.

Nomis21

They should reward him, seeing that he never profited from it.

Why do the Americans feel the need to enact such draconian punishments for non violent crime?

It is a breach of human rights.

Nomis21

Nomis21 wrote: »

They should reward him, seeing that he never profited from it.

Why do the Americans feel the need to enact such draconian punishments for non violent crime?

It is a breach of human rights.

Like that nice Bernie Madoff. They really go to town on the non violent stuff. Clearly Amnesty should be on the case. They should have rewarded him for exposing the stupidity of pyramid schemes.

Nomis21

Madoff benefited financially from his crimes

Sand

I think the US is obliged to pursue hackers who try and/or succeed to attack its servers and secrets. If they start giving people a pass, it becomes open season for everyone to have a go and just claim to be going through a dark time in their lives.

The sentences are ridiculously OTT, but they are intended as deterrents. I think convincing people of the certainty they will be caught and punished is more of a deterrent than the jail sentence itself, but meh. The guy may have Aspergers but that doesn't make him an idiot or not responsible for his own actions.

Basically, the US cant just let it go as some are asking them to. The potential sentence is ridiculously OTT. The guy did the crime, he faces the time.

Sand

Nomis21 wrote: »

Madoff benefited financially from his crimes

Did he though?

Nomis21

Nomis21 wrote: »

Madoff benefited financially from his crimes

I think he's billions in debt, I think his offence was more of the teeming and lading variety.

Anyway, I understand one of the accusations against the fellow in the UK is that he accessed credit card details. I guess in a trial we'll see why, and whether he could form intent given his condition.