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Bull Beef, Help needed

  • 15-09-2016 3:32pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭


    hello,

    can anyone give me some info on bull beef.
    i have some good CHX bulls born spring this year that are doing great and it would be a shame to castrate them.

    can i keep them to next spring/autumn and sell them as bulls or when is the best time to sell them at the mart? i don't really finish because i dont have the facility's to do so.

    so what age is the best to sell them at the mart? for someone else to buy them and finish them?

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,316 ✭✭✭tanko


    What weight are they?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭mrbrendank


    tanko wrote: »
    What weight are they?
    average about 250kg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 606 ✭✭✭RedPeppers


    mrbrendank wrote: »
    average about 250kg

    From what I seen today in the mart those cattle you have are going fancy prices.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭greenpetrol


    RedPeppers wrote: »
    From what I seen today in the mart those cattle you have are going fancy prices.

    Any prices for 12 month old Angus Bulls 400kgs from a suckler herd


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,754 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    mrbrendank wrote: »
    hello,

    can anyone give me some info on bull beef.
    i have some good CHX bulls born spring this year that are doing great and it would be a shame to castrate them.

    can i keep them to next spring/autumn and sell them as bulls or when is the best time to sell them at the mart? i don't really finish because i dont have the facility's to do so.

    so what age is the best to sell them at the mart? for someone else to buy them and finish them?

    Thanks

    The latest you could sell them as bulls is about 11 months so buyers would have a chance at finishing them at u16 months. Ideally they'd want to be around 400kg by then. What facilities have you?

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭mrbrendank


    blue5000 wrote: »
    The latest you could sell them as bulls is about 11 months so buyers would have a chance at finishing them at u16 months. Ideally they'd want to be around 400kg by then. What facilities have you?

    Thanks,

    Normally our cattle spend the winter in forestry.

    I've only officially taken over this year so i am trying out new things until i can get proper sheds set up. so they are 6 months now, so id want to be going with them around feb,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭mrbrendank


    also someone told me they have to be sold in lots of 5 or 10. if selling at 11 months is there any need to do that?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,754 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    I'd say so, you'd need a shed for them alright. I thought if you had a shed for cows you could put bulls in when cows go out, wasn't being nosey!

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 492 ✭✭The Cuban


    Shippers are buying at the moment, they are buying from 250 to 300kg only but paying top dollar for them, Ive seen these type Weanlings making higher prices than 400kg+ Weanlens.
    You`d be better off letting them go at the moment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭greenpetrol


    mrbrendank wrote: »
    Thanks,

    Normally our cattle spend the winter in forestry.

    I've only officially taken over this year so i am trying out new things until i can get proper sheds set up. so they are 6 months now, so id want to be going with them around feb,

    I have a wooded area about 10 acres and was thinking of putting a hardcore space at the edge and feed silage and a kg of meal ..curious to why your changing ? Also just seen in a forum where 2kg of meal only encourages them to clear up a scrub area of rushes and strong old grass which I have beside the wood . Any ideas on this ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭mrbrendank


    I have a wooded area about 10 acres and was thinking of putting a hardcore space at the edge and feed silage and a kg of meal ..curious to why your changing ? Also just seen in a forum where 2kg of meal only encourages them to clear up a scrub area of rushes and strong old grass which I have beside the wood . Any ideas on this ?

    yes that's what i do but the cost of feeding them over the 2 winters isn't paying. normally we keep them till they are 2 years old and sell them at around 500kg. But its making more sense to keep them over one winter sell the bulls at 11months to a year and sell the heifers at autumn time (16 months old) before the second winter feeding starts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭greenpetrol


    mrbrendank wrote: »
    yes that's what i do but the cost of feeding them over the 2 winters isn't paying. normally we keep them till they are 2 years old and sell them at around 500kg. But its making more sense to keep them over one winter sell the bulls at 11months to a year and sell the heifers at autumn time (16 months old) before the second winter feeding starts.
    I'm selling Bulls at 10 months dunno the weight but was given an estimated value of 750 ! Disappointing value and not paying - they are Angus from my own sucklers in good condition getting meal and weaned


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭50HX


    i have a mix of AA, LM and CHX bulls - all ~7mnths at the moment

    have the feed and was planning on keeping for the winter as bulls as my belief is that they would thrive better as bulls


    sell them then next mar/apr as bulls

    would i be better to squeeze them this winter as they would be yearlings at next sale and prob too late to finish for u16

    the contenintals are avg 300kg at the moment and my AA are 250kg

    so the question is to squeeze or not ??

    what do ye think

    sorry didn't mean to hijack OP question with my own question


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭grassroot1


    Bulls are a specialist job, they are not for the novice. They need housing and there is very little margin for error. It might be best to sell weanlings till you get set up in a few years.


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