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Up to 50% chance we live in "the Matrix"...says bank

  • 14-09-2016 8:15pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,406 ✭✭✭✭


    Who'd have thunk it?

    Analysts at Bank of America have reportedly suggested there is a 20 to 50 per cent chance our world is a Matrix-style virtual reality and everything we experience is just a simulation.

    The report, which was issued to clients, also implies even if our world was an illusion, we would never know about it.

    Bank of America Merrill Lynch backed up the claims by citing comments from leading philosophers, scientists and other thinkers...


    ...“It is conceivable that with advancements in artificial intelligence, virtual reality, and computing power, members of future civilizations could have decided to run a simulation of their ancestors," the report stated...

    http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/bank-of-america-the-matrix-50-per-cent-virtual-reality-elon-musk-nick-bostrom-a7287471.html

    Backed up by Elon "exploding rocket" Musk no less.



    Still it is an interesting theory all the same. So...does anyone want to start a resistance or something?:confused:


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭Poulgorm


    I wonder how they came up with the percentages (20 to 50%).

    Banking analysts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,913 ✭✭✭buried


    "50% chance we're in the Matrix so come on in our branch and get a 100% mortgage"

    Make America Get Out of Here



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭Jan Laco




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Well, considering how things are going, they might want to think of rebooting the whole thing and starting again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,625 ✭✭✭brevity


    I watched The Matrix recently, it's aged terribly.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    It's the smell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    brevity wrote: »
    I watched The Matrix recently, it's aged terribly.

    I still like the first one.

    The second was barely watchable,

    the third one....ergo vis a vis, sh*te


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Have any of you ever actually been to Shell Beach?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,428 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    woooohooo, no bank debts then, sure tis all imaginary! we can start printing our own money then and start sorting all these problems we be having.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Nice to know that banks are spending their money wisely. Did they say what happened when we die?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 608 ✭✭✭For ever odd


    Kite flying for a new religion? Those pesky Bankers know where the moneys at.

    The Earth is flat I tells ya!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    If we were all living in a simulation then how come there has not been any glitches ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭Steppenwolfe


    If we were all living in a simulation then how come there has not been and glitches ;)

    Funnilly enough the scientists working on this theory are looking for those glitches to give the theory some substance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    Theres no need to pay your bills ,they are just imaginary ,
    an illusion .
    IT must be great to be a scientist to be paid to make up theorys ,
    its like string physics theory ,its a theory it could be true or untrue.
    Theres no way to prove that string theory is wrong.
    And scientists make a living writing or researching it.
    I Think its best to act as if life is real otherwise theres no basis for morality and everything we do is just part of a program or a
    vr illusion .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,406 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    If we were all living in a simulation then how come there has not been any glitches ;)

    No glitches?

    Donald Trump? Would that qualify as a glitch?:confused:


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,309 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    If we were all living in a simulation then how come there has not been any glitches ;)

    Déjà Vu. There's yer glitches!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    How could those chances possible be quantified into percentages


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 822 ✭✭✭johnty56


    Seems a little bit like the eternal search for a higher power.. god , if you like.. except in this version of Creation , god is a computer programmer..

    Higher power, anyone?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,824 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Nice to know that banks are spending their money wisely. Did they say what happened when we die?

    Seemingly we should leave all our money to them.

    Glazers Out!



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    So scienze.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭The Specialist


    riclad wrote: »
    Theres no need to pay your bills ,they are just imaginary ,
    an illusion .
    IT must be great to be a scientist to be paid to make up theorys ,
    its like string physics theory ,its a theory it could be true or untrue.
    Theres no way to prove that string theory is wrong.
    And scientists make a living writing or researching it.
    I Think its best to act as if life is real otherwise theres no basis for morality and everything we do is just part of a program or a
    vr illusion .

    Bills are an illusion, just numbers on a screen. The real issue comes down to cause and affect (as the matrix explained) - If you don't pay those imaginary bills, your imaginary gas/electricity gets disconnected. All imaginary until you realise you are trapped living with the consequences of that, because the imaginary bills and imaginary disconnection are real parameters of the imaginary world you live in.

    I think I should put this joint down..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    johnty56 wrote: »
    Seems a little bit like the eternal search for a higher power.. god , if you like.. except in this version of Creation , god is a computer programmer..

    Higher power, anyone?

    Excellent point, man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Ah, Bostrom's trilemma. One of these must be true:

    1. "The fraction of human-level civilizations that reach a posthuman stage (that is, one capable of running high-fidelity ancestor simulations) is very close to zero", or
    2. "The fraction of posthuman civilizations that are interested in running ancestor-simulations is very close to zero", or
    3. "The fraction of all people with our kind of experiences that are living in a simulation is very close to one"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Tennent's is real. No computer could come up with such a beverage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Funnilly enough the scientists working on this theory are looking for those glitches to give the theory some substance.

    Donald trumps hair is a glitch


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭Olishi4


    Who'd have thunk it?

    My very first post on boards,
    Olishi4 wrote: »
    I am neo. I am 'the one'.

    Some of us have always known OP :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    if we ever get close to proving it,the creator will pull the plug like they did on Mars all those years ago


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭conorhal


    You'll have to forgive me if I have little faith in banks ability to predict anything, let alone anything based on the hard evidential proof offered by philosophy. Now excuse me, I just need to grab my cat.


    "£!"!£$"!£T%I just need to grab my cat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,201 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    But, but, I'm a sentiment mammal!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    Funnilly enough the scientists working on this theory are looking for those glitches to give the theory some substance.

    When you see weird things like 3 cars that are identical in make, colour and year to your own car, outside your own house, isn't that what you'd call a glitch in the matrix?

    Like this:

    http://metro.co.uk/2015/05/14/17-times-glitches-in-the-matrix-got-real-and-blew-our-freaking-minds-5197911/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    This makes sense in that most teens seem to have no religion,
    their smartphone is a icon,they are on facebook,or instragram,
    tech is the new religion .Its becoming harder to interact with government services or get a job without using the web.
    If you don,t use a smartphone or a pc/laptop you will be a second class citizen.If life is a matrix vr program its not run on windows os,
    otherwise it would crash every few weeks and need to be rebooted .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    I wish those controlling the matrix would let us have smellivision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,731 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    That bank staff surely have better things to be thinking about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Got offered contract work there recently, absolutely gutted I said no if this is how they spend their time haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,840 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    If we were all living in a simulation then how come there has not been any glitches ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,127 ✭✭✭kjl


    I think it's more likely that we ARE a simulation not in one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,128 ✭✭✭✭aaronjumper


    lertsnim wrote: »
    If we were all living in a simulation then how come there has not been any glitches ;)
    It was supposed to be a an environmental test, we are the glitches.
    :eek:

    Where's my tinfoil.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,193 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Yes, the Simulation Hypothesis. It's as old as the "Maya" concept in the Far East. BoA must have pulled some stunt this time to say they're trotting this out to keep folk occupied. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,193 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    lertsnim wrote: »
    If we were all living in a simulation then how come there has not been any glitches ;)

    Luckily, the Universe runs on an UltraSPARC platform - an elegant machine that works. The SysAdmin has duck-patched so many syscalls at this stage that the whole thing is one continuous glitch, but you don't notice because you can override the kernel syscall tables on-the-fly with loadable modules so it hasn't rebooted since shortly after the Sun formed.

    The documentation will be straightened up around the time Hell freezes over.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Ő̞̼̯̺̱̪̀ͮ̊ͬp͙̤̟̺̪̙̞ͯ̽̒͗̏͜͝ͅe̛̛̝̫̓̒͛ͩͧͨ͋̒̈n͔͕̪͉̘̱̟͇͈̈ͯ̓̕ ̧̧̛̟̰̜̖́ͫͣͅyͫ͛̏̾͑҉̲͈͍͎̪͕ô̼̝͚̙̩̙̬͐͊͛̒̓ͩ̚u̡̙̫̹̖͍͎ͦ̿r̡̄̅̑̅͆͆̉̈́͟҉̯͙̜̹̰ͅ ͍̙̞͙̣̭̟ͦ̏͌̔e̶̪̖͍̭̠̽̑ͩͩ̓͋̇ͯẏ͇ͮ͗̊̂͌ͬe̡̡̠̫͓̽̂ͭͯ͛̋s̴̨̯ͭ̊̕ ̽͗̆̑̀̃̄҉҉̠̩͓̦͓̼s͗ͧ̎͌ͮ̔̽̚͏̯̩̬̟͙̲͔ḥ̱̳̗̼͓̟̂̄͋ͭ̍ͅe̦̮̖͓ͦ̋̒ͦ̑̀̉͘ḛ̵͓̺̤͉̣͌͜p̺ͯͣͤ̏ͧ͆̚͝͝͡ḻ̫͍̝̟̎͌ͯͭ̏͂͂͢ͅe̵̫̘̟̥̼̻̥̒ͫͦ̏͟!̩̜̣̠͌ͧ̀͟!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Odds of us all living in something like the matrix pre 1999 = 0%

    Odds of us all living in something like the matrix post 1999 = 50%.

    Does that mean there's a 50-50 chance that a fella called Luke Skywalker, in a galaxy far, far, away is going to blow up the death star using the force?


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