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Determining old street numbering

  • 12-09-2016 3:19pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭


    A great-aunt of mine was born in 1895 at 1, Upper Gloucester Street, what is now Sean McDermott Street. Number 1 or indeed many numbers no longer exist. I had a look at an old OSI map but it doesn't show street numbering. Is there any way to determine where no. 1 would have been at that time?


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,708 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Identify a building that is still there now?

    Thoms Directory will help with this. There's a good collection in Pearse St library.

    You can compare to the census of 1901/1911 but enumerators did assign numbers which can add to confusion.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭shanew


    oceanclub wrote: »
    A great-aunt of mine was born in 1895 at 1, Upper Gloucester Street, what is now Sean McDermott Street. Number 1 or indeed many numbers no longer exist...Is there any way to determine where no. 1 would have been at that time?

    yes - from Thom's 1895 Street listings. So no 1 was at the Marlborough St end. I may be able to work out which side using junctions of side-streets.

    396809.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭oceanclub


    Thanks; just to note that modern numbering wouldn't have helped as the street totally changed - that is, part of Upper Gloucester is what is now Cathal Brugha St, but only part - the western half of Cathal Brugha St is a totally new street built after 1916: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathal_Brugha_Street

    P.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭shanew


    nothing distinctive with the street junctions, but the north city dispensary is shown at 48, which based on the c1890/1900 OSI map seems to be on the north side of the street, so no 1 southside.

    edit : the side of the street with numbers 1 to 21, mentions junction with North Cumberland Street Lower, the other side upper, which I presume means south and north respectively


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭oceanclub


    I'm guessing this would have been no. 1?:

    http://i.imgur.com/UUqH4eJ.jpg

    (Although according to this, 37 was very nearby, which doesn't make sense:

    http://www.jjon.org/jioyce-s-people/madams

    (see first image)

    P.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭shanew


    oceanclub wrote: »
    I'm guessing this would have been no. 1?:

    http://i.imgur.com/UUqH4eJ.jpg

    ..
    P.

    other side - the dispensary was no. 48


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    There are some old street level city maps with house numbers on them available here ..

    http://digital.ucd.ie/maps/explorer/

    The interface is a bit frustrating and takes a bit of getting used to, but if you can find a rough location based on the modern OpenStreetmap map, you can then select a layer based on a year range, and view the map of that area.

    Here's a screen grab of the end of Gloucester Street Upper where number one appears to have been located ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭shanew


    didn't realize those were available online - these look like the Dublin city maps that came with the Eneclann/Archive CD of the 1851 census


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭oceanclub


    Thanks for all the help, everyone.

    P.


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