Teacher using personal phone to take pictures

James Bond Junior

Martinamc wrote: »

I asked a simple question and I have been attacked by a herd of animals creeping out in the night. I'm just a concern parent wondering about personal phone use in school with today's society you have to be a bit paranoid I hope you all sleep well tonight ass*****

I only saw one animal in this post. And I'm not creeping. Im in bed.

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The Honey Monster wrote: »

Notice the OP has heavily edited his post...

I'm not surprised given how everyone has descended on him like a pack of wolves.
Looks to me like his issue was not getting a consent form. He or the child's mother.( Darent say wife as she may not be ) should have received one.

cursai

Why is it always the enquiring question about the rules with photographs in relation to kids.
But they never seem to follow through and question outright or openly as to where the photos may end up. Do they even think that far ahead. Is it just a natural reaction to object?

James Bond Junior

Liam Dirty Archaeologist wrote: »

I'm not surprised given how everyone has descended on him like a pack of wolves.
Looks to me like his issue was not getting a consent form. He or the child's mother.( Darent say wife as she may not be ) should have received one.

As part of the child's enrollment pack, a form would have included explicitly asking for consent for their child's picture to be taken. This would cover for outsiders such as photographers also. I've explained this three times now.

overmantle

To date, on reviewing this thread, there are 63 'Thanks' for views opposed to those of the OP, yet the OP has not received one single 'Thanks'.

I think that tells us, loud and clear, that his original post was completely thoughtless, at best. At worst, I'd rather not say.

SusieBlue

Martinamc wrote: »

I asked a simple question and I have been attacked by a herd of animals creeping out in the night. I'm just a concern parent wondering about personal phone use in school with today's society you have to be a bit paranoid I hope you all sleep well tonight ass*****

You have a disgusting attitude & I fear for your children growing up with such a sexist parent. Your replies trying to justify your thoughts have been nothing less than immature & rude. I feel sorry for your child's teacher. Unbelievable.

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overmantle wrote: »

To date, on reviewing this thread, there are 63 'Thanks' for views opposed to those of the OP, yet the OP has not received one single 'Thanks'.

I think that tells us, loud and clear, that his original post was completely thoughtless, at best. At worst, I'd rather not say.

No, it just says some teachers are over sensitive.

Irrespective of whether a form is signed on enrolment, we get a new one every year as parents may have changed their minds on the issue.

bigbrotherfan

Deleting or editing of the outrageous posts by the OP, proves that what he originally said was just that. OUTRAGEOUS. His blatantly sexist views have no support on this forum. God help male teachers if this is the kind of bigot out there.

cursai

Liam Dirty Archaeologist wrote: »

I'm not surprised given how everyone has descended on him like a pack of wolves.
Looks to me like his issue was not getting a consent form. He or the child's mother.( Darent say wife as she may not be ) should have received one.

A consent form for photographs or for photographs taken with a personal phone. Common sense would dictate he/she has equal control of both.

James Bond Junior

Liam Dirty Archaeologist wrote: »

No, it just says some teachers are over sensitive.

Irrespective of whether a form is signed on enrolment, we get a new one every year as parents may have changed their minds on the issue.

I'm not over sensitive. I am however sensitive to being whitewashed along with my male colleagues to engaging in unspeakable acts just because of gender. I am sensitive to the fact that if a small child hugs me I am immediately on the defence as I fear for being accused of something whilst my female colleagues can accept and even reciprocate the hug. I worry for people with your attitude.

Edit: It's overly sensitive, not over sensitive. Write it out three times and have your mother sign it please. There's a good little thing.

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bigbrotherfan wrote: »

Deleting or editing of the outrageous posts by the OP, proves that what he originally said was just that. OUTRAGEOUS. His blatantly sexist views have no support on this forum. God help male teachers if this is the kind of bigot out there.

Edited as I was obviously wrong

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James Bond Junior wrote: »

I'm not over sensitive. I am however sensitive to being whitewashed along with my male colleagues to engaging in unspeakable acts just because of gender. I am sensitive to the fact that if a small child hugs me I am immediately on the defence as I fear for being accused of something whilst my female colleagues can accept and even reciprocate the hug. I worry for people with your attitude.

What attitude is that, since you obviously (don't) know me.?

yabadabado

Some parents are just *****.OP sickens me, guilty by gender.

cursai

The op was a female I thought. Martina mc....

mansize

Martinamc wrote: »

I asked a simple question and I have been attacked by a herd of animals creeping out in the night. I'm just a concern parent wondering about personal phone use in school with today's society you have to be a bit paranoid I hope you all sleep well tonight ass*****

Are you clutching pearls while screaming this???

James Bond Junior

Liam Dirty Archaeologist wrote: »

What attitude is that, since you obviously (don't) know me.?

I apologise, after rereading the thread I thought you were siding and agreeing with the op but that's not the case.

bigbrotherfan

Liam Dirty Archaeologist wrote: »

I'm not surprised given how everyone has descended on him like a pack of wolves.
Looks to me like his issue was not getting a consent form. He or the child's mother.( Darent say wife as she may not be ) should have received one.

I'm sorry but the O.P.'s issue was very clearly that it was a 'new, male teacher'. I'm incensed by this and it's sad to be assuming that anybody who disagrees with this guy is a sensitive teacher.

I'm a parent (who is not a teacher) and the O.P.'s attitude throughout this thread, disgusts me. He knows he hasn't a leg to stand on, which is obviously why he has deleted or completely edited, all of his earlier posts. Perhaps you came in on this thread, after he started deleting.

cursai

bigbrotherfan wrote: »

I'm sorry but the O.P.'s issue was very clearly that it was a 'new, male teacher'. I'm incensed by this and it's sad to be assuming that anybody who disagrees with this guy is a sensitive teacher.

I'm a parent (who is not a teacher) and the O.P.'s attitude throughout this thread, disgusts me. He knows he hasn't a leg to stand on, which is obviously why he has deleted or completely edited, all of his earlier posts. Perhaps you came in on this thread, after he started deleting.

Its a woman.

heldel00

We had the most wonderful infant teacher in our school which had to move, reluctantly, to the Senior end of the school because of the attitude of likes of the OP. He felt he couldn't comfort an infant by putting them sitting on his knee or give them a hug if upset because if how it might be misinterpreted. Very very wrong IMO

overmantle

Perhaps the OP is female. I assumed it was a male OP. Either way, it was a highly sexist, defamatory viewpoint that s/he was expressing. It's important that our schools have some element of gender balance among our teaching staffs but with this insanely swift leaping to judgement, as judge and executioner, deciding that 2+2 = 37, just because somebody is male, is the one way of forcing men out of our schools, purely and simply on the basis of their gender, leaving no male role models in our schools.

freshpopcorn

If you issues with your kids photo being taken by the school just let the school know about it and the staff will know in future to let your kid sit out photos or if they do get caught in a photo by mistake they'll be able to black or whiten them out of the picture.
I don't think schools bother buying cameras now due to all staff having smart phones(sometimes there's even a school one) . Cameras would be an extra expense.
Photos are often taken by staff. They are often responsible for writing articles for local papers. So instead of having to upload photos off a camera onto a laptop.
They photos are simply attached to an email and sent to the local paper.
School do a lot of science projects/history projects /green flag/active flag/etc now a days and lot of these require photos of what's the kids did etc.

overmantle

overmantle wrote: »

To date, on reviewing this thread, there are 63 'Thanks' for views opposed to those of the OP, yet the OP has not received one single 'Thanks'.

I think that tells us, loud and clear, that his original post was completely thoughtless, at best. At worst, I'd rather not say.

Since my last count, it's 123 'thanks' for viewpoints opposed to the O.P. which proves the point that there is no support for the skewed and sexist viewpoints of this O.P.. God help the male teachers in our schools, if this is what they have to contend with.

Flippyfloppy

Martina, not Martin

Big Bag of Chips

Telling them not to look at the camera is standard. It means if the photos are displayed somewhere children can't be identified. Can I ask, OP, what do you think the teacher might be doing with these photos on his personal phone when he gets home that is causing you such upset?

I would definitely go in to the principal and complain (sure there's always one!) At least that way the teacher can be certain to make your child stand to one side, while he takes a photo of the rest of the class to stick on the wall in the classroom or for the school notice board. To be honest OP, if you are not comfortable with a (male) teacher taking photos of a scene he looks at for the entire school day (a classroom full of children) then I think you have more to complain about than photos. Surely he shouldn't be allowed in a classroom full of children? He's not going to be able to do much with a photo. But imagine what he could do with a room full of real life children. You should bring that to the principal too.

What about the person who comes in to take the school photos? And goes off with a camera full of photos of every child in the school, smiling into the camera. I'd probably complain about them too, while you're there.

Edit: in all seriousness though, if there is anything happening with your child that you are not happy with, of course you should go speak to whoever is in charge of it. If nothing else, to be reassured that nothing untoward is going on. So first step would be approaching the teacher, not straight to the principal. Talk to the teacher about your concerns. Calmly. Think through what your actual concerns are first and stick to that. The teacher will probably then agree not to photograph your child.

I think it is just such a shame that photos have become so taboo. Photos are lovely. And even in 3 or 4 years time looking back on photos of kids is brilliant. They will have grown and changed so much.

Coles

James Bond Junior wrote: »

I have taken thousands of pics of my class working for project work, at tours, school events and so on. There is nothing nefarious going on and I'm sure you're child's teacher is the same.

'your', not 'you're'. Teacher, eh?

Coles

overmantle wrote: »

...there is no support for the skewed and sexist viewpoints of this O.P...

Not just sexist, also ageist. It seems older teachers are more likely to be perverts. Good to know that for when the angry mob starts attacking people.

Tar.Aldarion

This is why we can't have nice things. What a ridiculous thread.

OU812

Ghetofarmulous wrote: »

I wouldnt be jumping to complaining. I mean it was a group photo. Nothing else...

No consent from the parents/guardians taken in a private environment.

James Bond Junior

Coles wrote: »

'your', not 'you're'. Teacher, eh?

Their is think calleded autocorrect. Some times it changes tings lik spellins. It hapens alot. Tanks for pinting it out doh.

jimd2

OU812 wrote: »

No consent from the parents/guardians taken in a private environment.

Surely the OP is aware that his / her child will be photographed at some stage over the year. If they have a problem with this then the simplest thing to do is to request that their child not be included in any photos, it would be impossible to request permission on an individual basis.

I have had 3 children go through primary school and never had a concern when a (male or female) teacher took their photos.

Regarding the teacher being new to the school, it should be noted that the teacher would have been garda vetted as well as having gone through processes of interviews and worked in other schools as part of training etc.

A bit of a storm in a teacup imo but if the OP is particularly concerned then just inform the teacher that their child be abstained from photos.