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Do you really hate anybody..if so whom

  • 09-09-2016 9:07pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭


    I dont think that i actually properly hate anybody..i dislike a fair few..do you hate anybody..who..why..


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  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hate only hurts the hater. If someone has wronged you so much that you hate them, you're still allowing them to hurt you. Much better to just feel nothing for them and move on with your life.

    I've known hateful people, but I don't hate anyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,921 ✭✭✭buried


    Don't hate the player, Hate the game and the half time refreshments

    Make America Get Out of Here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    One of my brothers. I hate to be so hateful towards anyone, I'm not usually a bitter person. But he has placed himself so far beyond any form of forgiveness or reconciliation, I despise him. The thought of him fills me with rage cos I just can't stand him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,283 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    My Family for many reasons, few others I have had dealings with too. Reason mainly being I don't like being taken advantage of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    My Family for many reasons, few others I have had dealings with too. Reason mainly being I don't like being taken advantage of.

    What did I do :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,283 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    What did I do :(

    Who said you did anything I got me enemies from before you were born baby. I am 114 years old after all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭learn_more


    There is one particular nationality that I hate but I guess thats just out and out racism ? I won't say what nationality it is but if they ever call me a batty boy every again I give them a haircut as punishment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    Who said you did anything I got me enemies from before you were born baby. I am 114 years old after all.

    Ah yes I forgot how old you are ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    I dont think so but one or two have gotten close.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,402 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Life's too short to hate, I don't watch RTE anymore and honestly I feel much better now


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    I think people throw the word around too easily. Like you don't hate that girl at work who's a bit up herself you just dislike her. I think you have to really know somebody well and they have to do something very bad to you for you to fully hate them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭TommyRiordan


    Fleggers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,797 ✭✭✭Sir Osis of Liver.


    Candie wrote: »
    Hate only hurts the hater. If someone has wronged you so much that you hate them, you're still allowing them to hurt you. Much better to just feel nothing for them and move on with your life.

    I've known hateful people, but I don't hate anyone.
    Well said Candie.

    Life's too short.


    Although,there's a fair few I dislike,others I can't fcukin stand and those I just wouldn't piss on if they were on fire.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,721 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Yea. Two brother in laws.

    Both insufferable bad people, proper bad. And it's proper hate, love to see both of them extinguished from the face of the earth sort of hate.

    All that " hate hurts the hater" rubbish is for those who haven't properly met a bad person. It's fine to hate people providing they deserve it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,844 ✭✭✭jluv


    One of my brothers. I hate to be so hateful towards anyone, I'm not usually a bitter person. But he has placed himself so far beyond any form of forgiveness or reconciliation, I despise him. The thought of him fills me with rage cos I just can't stand him.

    Me exactly...used to eat at me but now he means nothing..sad but true..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    Nobody gets to me to that extent and hopefully never will.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,921 ✭✭✭buried


    _Brian wrote: »
    Yea. Two brother in laws.

    Both insufferable bad people, proper bad. And it's proper hate, love to see both of them extinguished from the face of the earth sort of hate.

    All that " hate hurts the hater" rubbish is for those who haven't properly met a bad person. It's fine to hate people providing they deserve it.

    It isn't rubbish though Brian, as long as you allow their insufferable stink to effect your mentality, y'know? By allowing their bad behaviour to have a negative impact on your mindset, those pricks still are wasting your energy without them even knowing it, only yourself is allowing that stink to exist. Cut it off and shut them down, that's how you win.

    Make America Get Out of Here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭Surreptitious


    I don't hate anyone but I do pity a few.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭Robsweezie




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    Yesterday a friend put a link up on facebook to a video of a woman doing so-called baby yoga with a baby in a bucket of water.
    At first, I thought it was a hoax but after googling it I found out it was actually a thing.
    ****ing hell the woman in this video is a monster and deserves hate.
    I won't link the video though as it is too disturbing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,797 ✭✭✭Sir Osis of Liver.


    An uncle of mine advised me years ago to if you're going to hate somebody,do it with every fibre in your body.

    Good enough advice I suppose if you're a hateful type I suppose.

    Would rather rid them of my life than spend time hating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭pauliebdub


    I don't hate anyone but there are legions of people and several nationalities that I dislike usually people I've worked with.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    Ah sure what's the point in hating anyone?

    It's too ironic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    Hate is nothing but the appropriate response to the hateful. The trick is to know when someone has legitimately earned your hatred, and being a fan of the wrong religion, football team, or sex position doesn't cut the mustard. I hate a few people but not many.

    - My abusive ex-husband who almost killed me.
    - A past doctor in the US who, when I presented to him with symptoms of a kidney infection so bad I was beginning to show signs of shock, decided to take up my time and money lecturing me about my weight (I lost the kidney, by the way).
    - A boss who kept me strung along by promising me a transfer for five years, only to try to have me fired when I referred to it once in a department meeting, because he had never intended to follow through.
    - That girl in college who f*cked around behind her fiance's, my best friend's, back so much I had to talk him out of taking a lot of pills three or four times.
    - The policeman who went on the stand and lied that they found DNA evidence that another friend raped a girl, when I knew for a fact my friend didn't touch her because he was hundreds of miles away that night at church camp, I was in the same group, and we couldn't have spent more than four hours without seeing each other.

    People like that. Not counting general-purpose rubbish like Donald Trump and other lying, cheating, nasty celebrities.

    Forgiveness is earned. "Turn the other cheek" gets your face slapped. And abusers rarely reform, because one of the reasons they abuse is that it works for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,761 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    I don't hate anyone.
    Everyone has a dislike for someone though, or else they are a hermit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Eamondomc


    Never hated anyone, don't particularly like a few, am actually afraid of a few, but lifes too short to dwell on negatives.
    My daughter once told me she hated me when she was 10 or so and she wasn't getting her way, it upset me a lot at the time even though it was meaningless.
    Don't waste your time hating!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    Yeah, everyone who claims they don't feel hatred is either an emotional cripple or the sort of person who doesn't admit to playing with their own naughty bits because Jesus.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭demanufactured


    That enda Kenny kunt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,921 ✭✭✭buried


    Its funny, I was at a function last week and there was a lot of politicians at this thing, the same A-list politicians that would be in the Dáil roaring and tearing strips off each other for the cameras, pure enemies any other day of the year. But at this thing last week a lot of them here they all were, guzzling down the free food and drink, slapping themselves on the back, smiling and laughing. Got me thinking, all these politicians have their supporters tearing strips off each other, almost "hating" each other in political forums both online and in the real world, and here these same politicians are guzzling down the free porter and food, laughing along with each other before the next showcase season of divide and conquer bull$hit begins. It was fascinating watching these guys as a outsider in their actual habitat where they can let loose and relax , whereas the fake habitat where these people do their so-called "work" is presented as "hating" each other. All bull$hit. And last weekend I saw it.

    Make America Get Out of Here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭Ghetofarmulous


    Candie wrote: »
    Hate only hurts the hater. If someone has wronged you so much that you hate them, you're still allowing them to hurt you. Much better to just feel nothing for them and move on with your life.

    I've known hateful people, but I don't hate anyone.

    Best post all day.

    Iv never felt the capacity to hate anybody. Iv worked with unscrupulous characters and seen a managing director get fired for fraud and bullying. Myself and my co workers suffered immensely but in the end we stood up for ourselves.

    I don't hate him, I pity his family who have to deal with the outfall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 Mildred Pierce


    My Father.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Speedwell wrote: »
    Yeah, everyone who claims they don't feel hatred is either an emotional cripple or the sort of person who doesn't admit to playing with their own naughty bits because Jesus.

    That's a pretty unfair thing to say.

    I'm not religious, I'm not an emotional cripple, I've had plenty of hurt. Letting go of hate isn't easy, but it does liberate you from keeping the wounds alive.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,166 ✭✭✭Tasden


    Candie wrote: »
    That's a pretty unfair thing to say.

    I'm not religious, I'm not an emotional cripple, I've had plenty of hurt. Letting go of hate isn't easy, but it does liberate you from keeping the wounds alive.

    But can you actually control that? You can control how you react to the hate but can you actually control how you feel about someone?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 117 ✭✭Tom_Barry


    I'm an absolute nightmare when it comes to hatred. Someone could do something awful on me and I'd hate them passionately for a while, but it just subdues and I end up not caring anymore. I wish I could hold grudges:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,921 ✭✭✭buried


    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Yes! Class tune

    Make America Get Out of Here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    Candie wrote: »
    That's a pretty unfair thing to say.

    I'm not religious, I'm not an emotional cripple, I've had plenty of hurt. Letting go of hate isn't easy, but it does liberate you from keeping the wounds alive.

    No, I don't disagree with you. Letting go of hate means you have to admit to yourself that you have hatred first, just like getting over grief or anger or a panic attack means you have to first acknowledge that you are undergoing grief or anger or severe anxiety. Not being a hateful person means that you have to learn to recognise hatred and deal with it properly, and understand that it's the right response to something that deserves your hatred and not something to beat yourself up for feeling. A lot of psychology deals with telling people that things that they thought were hateful really aren't, by the way, since being a child is hard and you internalise a lot of self-hatred just because you are small and can't do things. So you have to learn to manage hatred in a mature, thoughtful way, just like you learn to manage your anger and the things you say.

    But, you know, we are taught that good people don't hate. Of course good people hate. If someone didn't hate things like child molestation, war for profit, and stealing from someone who trusts you, for example, we would hardly consider that person good. I'm sick and tired of having to pretend I don't feel appropriate hatred, or having to dumb it down with the mealy-mouthed word "dislike", because the fact that hatred is an emotion presumably offends "gentle Jesus meek and mild". You might not be religious, but that pernicious idea that "good people don't feel hatred" is a toxic idea right out of one or another of Paul's letters.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭The Specialist


    I don't think I particularly hate anyone, but I do have people I dislike to such an extent I'd laugh at their obituaries. Is it the same thing?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    I don't think I particularly hate anyone, but I do have people I dislike to such an extent I'd laugh at their obituaries. Is it the same thing?

    Honestly? Yes, it is.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Speedwell wrote: »
    No, I don't disagree with you. Letting go of hate means you have to admit to yourself that you have hatred first, just like getting over grief or anger or a panic attack means you have to first acknowledge that you are undergoing grief or anger or severe anxiety. Not being a hateful person means that you have to learn to recognise hatred and deal with it properly, and understand that it's the right response to something that deserves your hatred and not something to beat yourself up for feeling. A lot of psychology deals with telling people that things that they thought were hateful really aren't, by the way, since being a child is hard and you internalise a lot of self-hatred just because you are small and can't do things. So you have to learn to manage hatred in a mature, thoughtful way, just like you learn to manage your anger and the things you say.

    But, you know, we are taught that good people don't hate. Of course good people hate. If someone didn't hate things like child molestation, war for profit, and stealing from someone who trusts you, for example, we would hardly consider that person good. I'm sick and tired of having to pretend I don't feel appropriate hatred, or having to dumb it down with the mealy-mouthed word "dislike", because the fact that hatred is an emotion presumably offends "gentle Jesus meek and mild". You might not be religious, but that pernicious idea that "good people don't feel hatred" is a toxic idea right out of one or another of Paul's letters.

    Hate all you want for all the appropriate reasons that you want, and I won't call you hateful or tell you you're bitter or a worse person or any other judgement. I don't know your life, or how you manage your emotions, and I accept you do it in a way that works and is right for you.

    I expect the same consideration. If I can say I don't hate, I won't accept someone deciding that this means I am an emotional cripple, or too stupid to realise that I'm in subconscious thrall to some religious diktat, and that you have a better insight to my own emotions than I have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    Candie wrote: »
    Hate all you want for all the appropriate reasons that you want, and I won't call you hateful or tell you you're bitter or a worse person or any other judgement. I don't know your life, or how you manage your emotions, and I accept you do it in a way that works and is right for you.

    Do you see and understand, after re-reading that bit, that calling me hateful, bitter, inferior, and incapable of properly managing my life is exactly what you just did? That's what they call "passive-aggressive".
    I expect the same consideration. If I can say I don't hate, I won't accept someone deciding that this means I am an emotional cripple, or too stupid to realise that I'm in subconscious thrall to some religious diktat, and that you have a better insight to my own emotions than I have.

    I actually do have a better insight, because I have overcome the acculturated obligation to deny that I feel something that everyone feels.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Speedwell wrote: »
    Do you see and understand, after re-reading that bit, that calling me hateful, bitter, inferior, and incapable of properly managing my life is exactly what you just did?

    You misunderstand what I was saying.

    I didn't call you those things, I said I wouldn't call you those things, because you are better able to decide who you are and how you feel than I am. I do not presume to know you better than you do yourself. I know what passive aggressiveness is, and you are misreading the tone.

    I actually do have a better insight, because I have overcome the acculturated obligation to deny that I feel something that everyone feels.

    I'm afraid you do not know me better than I know myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    Candie wrote: »

    You misunderstand what I was saying.

    I didn't call you those things, I said I wouldn't call you those things, because you are better able to decide who you are and how you feel than I am. I do not presume to know you better than you do yourself.

    I'm afraid you do not know me better than I know myself.

    Yeah, I'm not going to help you be dishonest with yourself about emotions and how they work, or pretend that using words in the way you did means something other than what you meant.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Speedwell wrote: »

    Yeah, I'm not going to help you be dishonest with yourself about emotions and how they work.

    We don't know each other outside of text on a screen, and it's both insulting and patronising to insist you have some superior insight into my emotional health because I don't share your personal view on the nature of hate, and how it's maturely managed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    Candie wrote: »
    We don't know each other outside of text on a screen, and it's both insulting and patronising to insist you have some superior insight into my emotional health because I don't share your personal view on the nature of hate, and how it's maturely managed.

    I'm sorry you feel insulted. But I think you need to examine how you use the "I'm not saying you're bitter etc. but I am totally using those words at you" tactic.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Speedwell wrote: »
    I'm sorry you feel insulted. But I think you need to examine how you use the "I'm not saying you're bitter etc. but I am totally using those words at you" tactic.

    Speedwell, I explained the intention. You obviously don't believe me, and I wont try to convince you but I thought it was clear. You misread the tone, but that's text for you.

    You made some harsh and insulting generalizations, referring to people as emotional cripples and making other assumptions is completely uncalled for.

    I won't derail the thread by responding to you again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Anybody that I've ever hated is now dead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭Estrellita


    I don't hate anyone, but I think my feelings and views have changed as I got older. In the past I might have wasted time and energy feeling disgruntled about someone doing me some wrong or other. Now, I wouldn't give anyone the satisfaction of getting het up about them.

    The simplest and most cleansing thing you can do if someone bothers you that much, is to cut them completely out of your life and never look back.


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