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Which Drinking Trough

  • 30-08-2016 10:14pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭


    Right

    So the bull tried to impregnate an already incalf (maybe not)
    heifer beside the water trough today and it's now all busted up.

    It was a JFC ~500 litre Honkey

    Want something similar or bigger, leaning towards concrete

    Have other drinkers so only needs to serve 50ish cows


    Thanks In Advance Everyone


Comments

  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,752 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Go concrete, only good thing about jfc is they're easy to move. Ask my bull.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,194 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Go concrete, only good thing about jfc is they're easy to move. Ask my bull.
    Jfc drinkers are fine if they are well anchored, otherwise they are a total waste of money


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭mf240


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Jfc drinkers are fine if they are well anchored, otherwise they are a total waste of money

    Throw a few blocks or large stones into them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,484 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Go concrete, only good thing about jfc is they're easy to move. Ask my bull.

    And mine.....,concrete all the way with fast flow valve


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Hot day grass tight and cows on a bit of ration and the the plastic ones can get bent out of shape a bit when enough water flow to keep it there. Go concrete all the way. High enough and enough of an angle on it to make it difficult for badgers. The round ones are handy in that when it freezes the ice rises up instead on cracking get the trough.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭bullnuts


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Hot day grass tight and cows on a bit of ration and the the plastic ones can get bent out of shape a bit when enough water flow to keep it there. Go concrete all the way. High enough and enough of an angle on it to make it difficult for badgers. The round ones are handy in that when it freezes the ice rises up instead on cracking get the trough.
    High is great for dairy but sucklers need low tanks for calves to drink


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭farmerjj


    Jfc trough,s have there place but are after getting v expensive,I,v both concrete and plastic and once you get them plenty big enough that they don't run dry I would prefer the plastic(but prices are crazy)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    bullnuts wrote: »
    Mooooo wrote: »
    Hot day grass tight and cows on a bit of ration and the the plastic ones can get bent out of shape a bit when enough water flow to keep it there. Go concrete all the way. High enough and enough of an angle on it to make it difficult for badgers. The round ones are handy in that when it freezes the ice rises up instead on cracking get the trough.
    High is great for dairy but sucklers need low tanks for calves to drink
    Had to keep some calves back here this year on home block so a made a little ramp against a big rectangular trough with some soil. Calves normally go to out farm with smaller troughs alright. The round ones tend not to be as tall as the rectangular ones, have a few aa calves on cows with poor feet and they can drink out of those ones altho the trough is a bit lower in the ground as we reseeded the field since it went in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    farmerjj wrote:
    Jfc trough,s have there place but are after getting v expensive,I,v both concrete and plastic and once you get them plenty big enough that they don't run dry I would prefer the plastic(but prices are crazy)


    Just can't the smaller plastic ones to stay working with any of the normal entry valves... thinking of trying a bottom entry on one. Problem is we tend to move drinkers with the cows.

    Might mount one on a trailer with an IBC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭longgonesilver


    Whats happening the smaller ones? Are they overflowing?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭50HX


    seen a fella that got an ibc container, added a small plastic trough at the bottom with a fast flow valve that fills the trough by gravity, the main feed in to the ibc - plenty of a supply then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭memorystick


    How much for a concrete water trough to service about 70 heifers and what size?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    How much for a concrete water trough to service about 70 heifers and what size?

    The most important variable in that question is water flow. Large bore pipes with little or no head above the well head and a twenty gallon/100l trough would be fine. 3/4 inch pipe and a 100ft of a head you could need anything up to 200gallons to have enough water when demand hits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Hot day grass tight and cows on a bit of ration and the the plastic ones can get bent out of shape a bit when enough water flow to keep it there. Go concrete all the way. High enough and enough of an angle on it to make it difficult for badgers. The round ones are handy in that when it freezes the ice rises up instead on cracking get the trough.

    Not telling you your business but sounds like not enough volume in your pipes. Cows should never take a tank below 2/3. It's all about volume. 2" main here with 3/4 fast fill valves, never short.

    Btw concrete better value and won't be tempted to move elsewhere. Any jfc we have are now fitted with bottom fill lo pressure valves. They're hoors for overflowing with factory fitted valves


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow



    Btw concrete better value and won't be tempted to move elsewhere. Any jfc we have are now fitted with bottom fill lo pressure valves. They're hoors for overflowing with factory fitted valves

    Any link to the valves? They work ok with the plastic troughs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    kowtow wrote: »
    Any link to the valves? They work ok with the plastic troughs?

    I'll post a pic if I remember :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭Never wrestle with pigs


    What stone are lads useing around water troughs? I used sum 804 around sum last summer but I think it might be a bit harsh. Quarry dust any good?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    What stone are lads useing around water troughs? I used sum 804 around sum last summer but I think it might be a bit harsh. Quarry dust any good?

    It seems to turn to gutter in wet weather


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,763 ✭✭✭White Clover


    What stone are lads useing around water troughs? I used sum 804 around sum last summer but I think it might be a bit harsh. Quarry dust any good?


    Pencil, known as slig in your part of the country. Not too clean though, a bit of dirt through it helps it to set like concrete.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 323 ✭✭Mf310


    Need to buy about 8 concrete 140gallon troughs has anyone any recommendations ... murphys seem alright priced


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