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Growing tobacco in Ireland.

  • 20-08-2016 10:27am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭


    We have a few old buildings on the farm and myself and father were just talking about them.
    Anyway he remembers hearing of wires being strung up between the rafters and tobacco plants being hung up on the wires to dry.

    Thought it was interesting.
    Anyone else hear of tobacco being grown on their farm or was it just in the southeast.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,325 ✭✭✭paul71


    pedigree 6 wrote: »
    We have a few old buildings on the farm and myself and father were just talking about them.
    Anyway he remembers hearing of wires being strung up between the rafters and tobacco plants being hung up on the wires to dry.

    Thought it was interesting.
    Anyone else hear of tobacco being grown on their farm or was it just in the southeast.

    Tabacco was grown on a relatively big scale in Co. Meath between 1880 and 1930, so it was not just the south east. I think you would be faced with the same issue that killed it off back then, high excise rates.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    paul71 wrote: »
    Tabacco was grown on a relatively big scale in Co. Meath between 1880 and 1930, so it was not just the south east. I think you would be faced with the same issue that killed it off back then, high excise rates.

    Yea that would tie in with what he was saying. He was born in 1937 and he said it was grown on the farm before he was born.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,325 ✭✭✭paul71


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057476313

    There is a link in my first post in that thread. The tobacco industry in Navan died off because the new free state did nothing to help curb imports by introducing a lower excise rate for home grown tobacco.

    It is a perfectly viable crop to grow in Ireland, it is just we cannot compete with the economies of scale gained on 10,000 acre tobacco plantations.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    paul71 wrote: »
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057476313

    There is a link in my first post in that thread. The tobacco industry in Navan died off because the new free state did nothing to help curb imports by introducing a lower excise rate for home grown tobacco.

    It is a perfectly viable crop to grow in Ireland, it is just we cannot compete with the economies of scale gained on 10,000 acre tobacco plantations.

    I'm not suggesting we go back to growing tobacco today.
    But thought it was interesting.
    They were different times then as well when everyone had a pipe and people didn't know any better.
    Usually when you think of tobacco growing, you think of Virginia in the U.S. not wexford or Meath.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭sheesh


    it was grown on the blaskets according to peig


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    pedigree 6 wrote: »
    I'm not suggesting we go back to growing tobacco today.
    But thought it was interesting.
    They were different times then as well when everyone had a pipe and people didn't know any better.
    Usually when you think of tobacco growing, you think of Virginia in the U.S. not wexford or Meath.:D
    There is tobacco being grown here atm. There was a report about him, in the Indo I think, growing 1 acre of tobacco for sale as cigars.

    Unless I'm losing my mind again:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭tractorporn


    There is tobacco being grown here atm. There was a report about him, in the Indo I think, growing 1 acre of tobacco for sale as cigars.

    Unless I'm losing my mind again


    Nope your not. There has been a lot of talk in the media about this small area of tobacco. I heard a discussion on Matt Cooper about it during the week, Matt's contributer was highly offended that we would attempt to grow such a "harmful" crop in this country!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Nope your not. There has been a lot of talk in the media about this small area of tobacco. I heard a discussion on Matt Cooper about it during the week, Matt's contributer was highly offended that we would attempt to grow such a "harmful" crop in this country!!
    Phew!!!

    I know I read an article about it in the recent past but still can't find it online.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    Tobacco was grown on our farm up to WW2 according to my late dad. 1 tobacco drying house still standing. I tried to post a pic of it when I spotted this thread alas unable.

    There were 2 houses one is now a store but 1 still intact. It's 20' wide 50' long 18' at eves and rises steeply to form a high A roof. It has a felt roof now slated but it seems it was necessary for the drying process. It's very well vented in 2nd story with no windows or vents below 12-13'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    I was going to get a few plants from the UK a few years ago to grow it but I never did after. It isn't illegal to grow it as long as it's for your own use.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,125 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    ...as long as you don't inhale. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,644 ✭✭✭cml387


    It's been grown in Kilsheelan near Clonmel.

    Linky


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    Tobacco was grown on our farm up to WW2 according to my late dad. 1 tobacco drying house still standing. I tried to post a pic of it when I spotted this thread alas unable.

    There were 2 houses one is now a store but 1 still intact. It's 20' wide 50' long 18' at eves and rises steeply to form a high A roof. It has a felt roof now slated but it seems it was necessary for the drying process. It's very well vented in 2nd story with no windows or vents below 12-13'.

    If you want to post pics, you can use the attach files at the bottom of your message when posting from your phone or what I do as well from the laptop is use dropbox and then upload the pic to postimage and then copy the direct link to there and put it in your message with IMG at the end of the link. That second IMG should have brackets around it but didn't do it here as boards would be wondering what pic that was. That's how you embed them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    pedigree 6 wrote: »
    If you want to post pics, you can use the attach files at the bottom of your message when posting from your phone or what I do as well from the laptop is use dropbox and then upload the pic to postimage and then copy the direct link to there and put it in your message with IMG at the end of the link. That second IMG should have brackets around it but didn't do it here as boards would be wondering what pic that was. That's how you embed them.

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    ...as long as you don't inhale. :)

    Don't inhale or don't put up for sale.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    cml387 wrote: »
    It's been grown in Kilsheelan near Clonmel.

    Linky

    And I pass by the field every so often saying to myself "that's quare looking cabbage"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    I went from a situation at the opening post thinking tobacco grown in Ireland was very exotic and unusual.
    Then to finding out that it was grown in most parts of the country back in the early 1900's.
    To now finding out that it's being grown now today again in Ireland.

    Isn't boards and the posters great.:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭barnaman


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    I was going to get a few plants from the UK a few years ago to grow it but I never did after. It isn't illegal to grow it as long as it's for your own use.

    Illegal to grow without a licence; if for smoking

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1933/sro/3/made/en/print

    http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/excise/leaflets/pn1877t.html#a10.1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭Daisy 55


    davidk1394 wrote: »
    And I pass by the field every so often saying to myself "that's quare looking cabbage"

    Can you see it from the road?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    Daisy 55 wrote: »
    Can you see it from the road?

    Not really. I was doing work for a farmer and in a few of his fields I could see a small patch of what I now know is tobacco


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