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Airport Security - Aero Bars, Banned Item?

  • 18-08-2016 7:10pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭


    I'm flying to Mallorca in the next few days and renting a bicycle over there. The shop I'm renting from charge €8 a day to have bars put on, which seems a waste of money when I have my own bars at home. If I bring my own instead, is there any chance of them being confiscated at airport security? I only intend traveling with hand luggage, so checked baggage is not an option.

    Thanks.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,815 ✭✭✭satguy


    Get your bike from another shop..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,318 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    Just do without?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭zico10


    Raam wrote: »
    Just do without?

    It's not really an option for me. I'm going back for an Ironman at the end of September and for this trip I want to get a chance to practise the descents in the race on aero-bars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,318 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    I'd be surprised if a metal bar is allowed in the cabin. Just check a bag or rent them. I've had a small multitool prohibited.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,059 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    I thought you were referring to CHOCOLATE!

    Sorry, hope you have a nice time. Haven't a clue about these iron bars for a bike though.

    Was just skimming the latest posts. LOL


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭firstprime


    I can't say for sure but I wouldn't have even considered that they might be prohibited if I was in your shoes. I've brought a lot worse through.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,393 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Wouldn't risk anything out of the ordinary like that. It's largely down to the discretion of whoever is on that particular checkpoint at that particular time. If they are ever unsure they will usually err on the side of caution


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭68 lost souls


    I've certainly brought worse might be worth a call to the daa?


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,393 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Even if you get some kind of assurance from the DAA (and I suspect they would be reluctant to do so over the phone - even if they do that's no guarantee when you get to the security check) you still have to get them back which involves another airport


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,038 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    Raam wrote: »
    .. or rent them....
    See OP -- €8 a day to rent. Hence the thread.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭Pantanifan84


    Try buying a cheap pair over there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    A camera tripod is on the list of allowed items (and I've carried mine through Dublin Airport on a few occasions) - be amazed if aero bars weren't allowed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,309 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    A camera tripod is on the list of allowed items (and I've carried mine through Dublin Airport on a few occasions) - be amazed if aero bars weren't allowed.

    Aero bars are not a tripod...it really depends on the staff on duty at the time., If you can show them some official paperwork that says there allowed, fine. But if you can't I sus pect they will be confescsted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,318 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    See OP -- €8 a day to rent. Hence the thread.

    I'm proposing that it's worth considering it again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Apparently it's because the air sealed inside the bubbles expands as the altitude increases, and then these are prone to 'bursting', which can lead to a sound like a tiny tiny machine gun going off, which is obviously a liability on the plane. My advice is to take Wispas instead - if you look at the bottom of a Wispa, you'll see it's full of holes - this is to allow the air to escape without damaging the structural integrity of the chocolate in such situations. Also they are far nicer than Aeros. Unless you're having Aero Mint, but those should be fine to bring on the plane, as the mint content of the bar keeps the chocolate naturally cool and prevents the previously mentioned expansion of the air in the bubbles. Hope that helps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    Aero bars are not a tripod...it really depends on the staff on duty at the time., If you can show them some official paperwork that says there allowed, fine. But if you can't I sus pect they will be confescsted.

    Well a tripod is much heavier than a pair of aerobars and would make for a better weapon (if that's the concern).

    They are not on the list of restricted items

    https://www.dublinairport.com/docs/default-source/default-document-library/prohibited-articles-list-passengers.pdf?sfvrsn=0

    I do think sending them an email is the best idea, they are quite helpful in my experience.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,393 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Well a tripod is much heavier than a pair of aerobars and would make for a better weapon (if that's the concern).

    They are not on the list of restricted items

    https://www.dublinairport.com/docs/default-source/default-document-library/prohibited-articles-list-passengers.pdf?sfvrsn=0

    I do think sending them an email is the best idea, they are quite helpful in my experience.
    As I've already mentioned they have to come back as well as go out

    The wider point is nothing to do with their weight - pretty much everyone knows what a tripod is. Not everyone will recognise tri-bars. That results in suspicion which in turn leaves a risk of confiscation (at either airport). Unless there is something definitive from both airports why take the risk? Is using "proper" road bars that much of an issue?


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,393 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Ficheall wrote: »
    Apparently it's because the air sealed inside the bubbles expands as the altitude increases, and then these are prone to 'bursting', which can lead to a sound like a tiny tiny machine gun going off, which is obviously a liability on the plane. My advice is to take Wispas instead - if you look at the bottom of a Wispa, you'll see it's full of holes - this is to allow the air to escape without damaging the structural integrity of the chocolate in such situations. Also they are far nicer than Aeros. Unless you're having Aero Mint, but those should be fine to bring on the plane, as the mint content of the bar keeps the chocolate naturally cool and prevents the previously mentioned expansion of the air in the bubbles. Hope that helps.
    Not sure about this. In my experience the chocolate also expands. Perhaps not as much as the air, but enough to temper any of those "explosions" to a level the airlines will typically accept.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,309 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    Well a tripod is much heavier than a pair of aerobars and would make for a better weapon (if that's the concern).

    They are not on the list of restricted items

    https://www.dublinairport.com/docs/default-source/default-document-library/prohibited-articles-list-passengers.pdf?sfvrsn=0

    I do think sending them an email is the best idea, they are quite helpful in my experience.

    Agreed... At the opposite end of the scale is a nail clippers... IMO ithere useless as a weapon, but you can't bring them in your hand luggage!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    Agreed... At the opposite end of the scale is a nail clippers... IMO ithere useless as a weapon, but you can't bring them in your hand luggage!

    Nail clippers are allowed...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,309 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    Nail clippers are allowed...

    Ok eh a penknife?

    I know... Plucking at straws now! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭zico10


    Thanks for the replies. If there's even a small risk of them bring confiscated, then I don't want to take it. I'll just leave my bars at home and pay the €8 a day rental fee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭Bit cynical


    Nail clippers are allowed...
    This is correct. It is the nail file attached that is not allowed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭fat bloke


    I'd have presumed you'd be checking in a bag for shoes/shorts/tools/pump/tubes/pedals of choice/helmet blah blah blah insert all and any of the myriad of sh1te you need to take with you on a cycle, and that you'd throw your aerobars in there?

    I'm off to the States tomorrow and hoping to get out for a cycle and there's no way I'd get all the gear I need along with day to day clothing etc in one carry on bag!
    If 8 euro a day is onerous, then you must be doing a lot more than one day's cycling so you'll need a lot of gear.

    Anyway, sticking to the OP (for a change) I don't know if you'd get them through security, all it takes is one snotty guy to take a dislike to them, and it's never an argument you're going to win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,119 ✭✭✭✭event


    €8 a day, surely checking a bag is cheaper if you're in for a few days


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,515 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    I brought a kryptonite New York Fagheddaboutit lock through airport security here and abroad. They went and checked was it OK here and the other side never even questioned it.

    I would stick them in your check in luggage but I can't see any problems considering the things you are allowed carry. Maybe ring the airline or airport security, and ask if you are very nervous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,038 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    CramCycle wrote: »
    .....Maybe ring the airline or airport security, and ask...
    The problem with that is that someone sitting in an office saying it's ok is totally disconnected from the person checking your bag at a different date/time who will always revert to the 'if in doubt, leave it out'. They won't provide you with anything in writing/email even if they say in advance that it's fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,794 ✭✭✭C3PO


    I would be surprised if they would let them through! Much easier to say no to remove any doubt!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,616 ✭✭✭grogi


    zico10 wrote: »
    I'm flying to Mallorca in the next few days and renting a bicycle over there. The shop I'm renting from charge €8 a day to have bars put on, which seems a waste of money when I have my own bars at home. If I bring my own instead, is there any chance of them being confiscated at airport security? I only intend traveling with hand luggage, so checked baggage is not an option.

    Thanks.

    Just check-in your hand bag. There is no cost for that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,794 ✭✭✭C3PO


    grogi wrote: »
    Just check-in your hand bad. There is no cost for that.

    Really ... I wasn't aware of that! Handy if you're bringing CO2 etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭carltonleon


    Isn't the Stephen Roche Cycling Tour in Mallorca ? Perhaps an email to them to see if anyone has brought Tri-Bars or if anyone reported any issues with bringing them into Mallorca. That would cover Mallorca and then an email to DAA to cover Dublin. That's what I would do anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭OldBean


    You'll be grand. I've brought so much weird sh*t through airports, most of which looks far more questionable on an X-ray.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,059 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    grogi wrote: »
    Just check-in your hand bag. There is no cost for that.

    That's not quite true. You need to get to the gate and OFFER up your bag for the hold at that point. In my experience anyway, so you would still have to go through security.

    What can be free, is hand luggage IF you are checking in another bigger bag aswell.

    BTW I had to go out an buy an Aero Bar at lunchtime. I got a goo on me for chocolate after reading the OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,338 ✭✭✭Lusk_Doyle


    Why is this triathlete not being slagged? What the heck is wrong with you lot?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭harringtonp


    My shoes and pedals (speedplay) caused a bit of a huddle in Shannon back in April but got through in the end.

    Had the phone ready to give a bloke a call who works in security there and also cycles.

    No problems coming back from Majorca.


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  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,393 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    My shoes and pedals (speedplay) caused a bit of a huddle in Shannon back in April but got through in the end.
    This highlights the issue for me. Despite being "inoffensive" in the eyes of someone familiar with the "objects", not everyone understands what tri-bars are and whether its possible to misuse them. Just needs one individual (at either end) to raise concerns and there's a risk you lose them. My simple point is why bother taking the risk when there are at least 2 simple risk-free alternatives (hire locally, or, god forbid, make do with "regular" bars)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭68 lost souls


    Beasty wrote: »
    This highlights the issue for me. Despite being "inoffensive" in the eyes of someone familiar with the "objects", not everyone understands what tri-bars are and whether its possible to misuse them. Just needs one individual (at either end) to raise concerns and there's a risk you lose them. My simple point is why bother taking the risk when there are at least 2 simple risk-free alternatives (hire locally, or, god forbid, make do with "regular" bars)

    As mentioned regular bars are not an option as the soap is looking to recky a rave route and test as close to race conditions as possible to ensure they are comfortable with the corners etc ok the bars and to know when and where they may have to switch from the bars to brakes etc.

    Reading the Ops log in TDAR forum you will see that at that end of the race it's the small seconds that count and will get him in the big island

    Seems you are best to rent or try check a bag. Half tempted to say maybe a cheap set that will not be missed if they are confiscated and then you can maybe save?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭ozzy jr


    What about the small co2 containers? What's the likelihood of getting them on a plane, in the baggage hold?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,309 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    ozzy jr wrote: »
    What about the small co2 containers? What's the likelihood of getting them on a plane, in the baggage hold?

    There not allowed....But, that assumes you declare them. If your travelling with a bike, they will probably ask you if you have any. If you have, they'll take them from you.

    I travelled to Majorca last month, we were renting bikes, so I only had check in luggage. While I didn't have any, my travelling companion had two in his checkin luggage.

    Last year, I was travelling with a bike and I was asked how many I had. When I said I had one I was told that's OK as your allowed two per bike!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    I checked in a cabin bag both direction free a few weeks ago. Ryanair out - Aer Lingus home. ( guess who was 2 hours late - hint - they didn't get to play their stupid music)


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