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Another thread about clamp removal

  • 11-08-2016 8:39pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭


    Been clamped in my own apartment block. Parked outside a designated space. I've parked in it most days for three years, without any notes about it.

    Private clamping company have decided it's an easy €120 and I want them to go f*** themselves.

    Question is this, how much would a mechanic charge to come out and remove it (without damaging it). It looks like you could just remove some suspension with a socket wrench and a jack? Is it this easy?

    I've already told them I'd cut it off in a rage, so I'd rather not seeing as they know my phone number and could trace me through the management company.

    Opinions?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭CardinalJ


    And now I'm embarrassed on the internet. Bad to worse.

    Can a mod change? Will show you my clam in exchange.



    Mod note: title change from
    Another thread about clam removal
    to
    Another thread about clamp removal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,946 ✭✭✭Bigus


    Use plenty of Mussel power .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    Pay the fine.....

    ......don't be shellfish!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭vandriver


    Jawgap wrote: »
    Pay the fine.....

    ......don't be shellfish!!!
    Isn't it whelk for you,having that much cash


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 381 ✭✭bricky06


    If it was me, I'd just shell out the money


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Just pay the few squid to get it taken off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,934 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    Let the car go altogether op. Plenty more fish in the sea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭Smondie


    Were you parked in your desiginated parking plaice?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭oscar2




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    Take them to the small clams court. But when your in front of the judge dont clam up, Clam down, compose yourself and explain yourself in a cool, clam and collected manner, that you were parked legally. They clam'nt argue with that. As the clament in the case you are entitled to clampensation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭CardinalJ


    oscar2 wrote: »

    Read that, thanks, it says that if no maximum charge is prescribed, but the clamp company say it's €120. So I'm not sure if that means its prescribed or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,755 ✭✭✭ianobrien


    OP, if you don't need to use the boat, leave it parked for a couple days. I know of cars clamped by private clampers (not local authority) and then a few days later they came back to remove the clamp. No money was paid but when the clampers realised no money was being paid, they took it off.

    If you post your general area, some boards may be along who can "make the problem go away" for the price of a few beers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,704 ✭✭✭Cheensbo


    If I was you I'd hope a passer by comes past with a bolt cutters, removes the clamp and then makes it disappear.

    That's what I'd be hoping anyway.


  • Site Banned Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭XR3i


    CardinalJ wrote: »
    Been clamped in my own apartment block. Parked outside a designated space. I've parked in it most days for three years, without any notes about it.

    Private clamping company have decided it's an easy €120 and I want them to go f*** themselves.

    Question is this, how much would a mechanic charge to come out and remove it (without damaging it). It looks like you could just remove some suspension with a socket wrench and a jack? Is it this easy?

    I've already told them I'd cut it off in a rage, so I'd rather not seeing as they know my phone number and could trace me through the management company.

    Opinions?


    what part of the country are you in, if your not too far away i''l bring down a con-sawe and makle a thousand bits of the clamp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    If the OP lives in this apartment complex, cutting off the clamp won't be the end of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭CardinalJ


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    If the OP lives in this apartment complex, cutting off the clamp won't be the end of it.

    Plus I've already gone mad at them over the phone and threatened to do so. But if I remove it, it should be different.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    oscar2 wrote: »

    Thats wrong though. It was being discussed on the radio the other day, people writing the articles arent reading the legislation properly. Something about it being capped at €100 if a fee isnt agreed beforehand (signs etc) But if they agree a fee they can set it differently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,576 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    I've been clamped twice before. Angle grinder came in handy on both occasions. Left the clamp on the side of the road. Never heard anything after. Clampers can suck my left one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭sunnysoutheast


    Thats wrong though. It was being discussed on the radio the other day, people writing the articles arent reading the legislation properly. Something about it being capped at €100 if a fee isnt agreed beforehand (signs etc) But if they agree a fee they can set it differently.

    Wasn't it that it will be signed into law that private clampers can't charge more than the LA as soon as the TDs are back from summer recess?

    On another note did the guy in the Focus in that link just drive off with the clamp attached?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    Wasn't it that it will be signed into law that private clampers can't charge more than the LA as soon as the TDs are back from summer recess?

    On another note did the guy in the Focus in that link just drive off with the clamp attached?

    shouldn't be allowed charge anything

    there is no law to cover clamping on private property


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    Its not a clamity just yet, dont make the clampers your anemones, just let minnow a few details. Were you allowed in the carp ark, or just there for the halibut, any fin is possible?
    Is this your plaice of a fronds? Dont remove the clamp they might be withing their rights to batter you. You would think "this scampi happening to me" so dolphinitely think twice, it doesnt take a brain sturgeon to figure that out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Wasn't it that it will be signed into law that private clampers can't charge more than the LA as soon as the TDs are back from summer recess?

    On another note did the guy in the Focus in that link just drive off with the clamp attached?

    It's a Megane, the front wings are plastic on them

    Clamp probably worth more than the car


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    nice_guy80 wrote: »
    shouldn't be allowed charge anything

    there is no law to cover clamping on private property

    Course they should. People should be allowed to set rules for the use of their own property.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭CardinalJ


    Course they should. People should be allowed to set rules for the use of their own property.

    If rules were actually enforced I'd agree. Deciding after three years to go in and clamP 7 cars is sickening.

    Easy €840 quid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    These things are often management company fees related


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    CardinalJ wrote: »
    If rules were actually enforced I'd agree. Deciding after three years to go in and clamP 7 cars is sickening.

    Easy €840 quid.

    Maybe they got sick of people taking the piss? All this proves is that people cant be trusted to self police, hence the need for enforcement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭CardinalJ


    Maybe they got sick of people taking the piss? All this proves is that people cant be trusted to self police, hence the need for enforcement.

    If I had a note even once saying not to park there I wouldn't have.

    I'm not suggesting any kind of self policing, I'm seeing if I can save €120 that I don't have to spend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,782 ✭✭✭Damien360


    Maybe they got sick of people taking the piss? All this proves is that people cant be trusted to self police, hence the need for enforcement.

    Clamp those not in a designated space makes sense.

    Saw the same in Newbridge years ago. Every match day in town a line of cars would park and block in the residents of an apartment block. I was one of the residents. The owners put signs up, nobody cared, they came out to stop it, nobody cared, then the clampers were employed and they hit a long line of cars. From then on nobody even dares to park in there. Guaranteed not a single person that is not a resident there will go near the place. Out of there 15 years and on a match day it is still clear. Don't remember seeing any clampers coming back since. No need to.

    The OP situation sounds like a resident finally snapped and it will be dealt with.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭CardinalJ


    Damien360 wrote: »
    Clamp those not in a designated space makes sense.

    Saw the same in Newbridge years ago. Every match day in town a line of cars would park and block in the residents of an apartment block. I was one of the residents. The owners put signs up, nobody cared, they came out to stop it, nobody cared, then the clampers were employed and they hit a long line of cars. From then on nobody even dares to park in there. Guaranteed not a single person that is not a resident there will go near the place. Out of there 15 years and on a match day it is still clear. Don't remember seeing any clampers coming back since. No need to.

    The OP situation sounds like a resident finally snapped and it will be dealt with.

    Your situation in Newbridge nothing like this. If I'd had or seen a note on my car once I wouldn't have parked there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,782 ✭✭✭Damien360


    CardinalJ wrote: »
    Your situation in Newbridge nothing like this. If I'd had or seen a note on my car once I wouldn't have parked there.

    There must be signs up about parking in designated space or clamping company signs. Why would you get a note ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭CardinalJ


    There is a sign but also non designated areas that people have always parked in without issue.

    I've lived here for three years and was told by neighbours who have lived here for longer, as well as my landlord, that there are only cars clamped if they are in someones space. Neighbours also pointed the non designated areas out to me when I moved in. Cars have parked in them since the complex was built.
    These are areas that cause no blockage. Some of these areas are places that used to be used for wheelie bin storage etc but haven't been used for years.

    A member of the management company used to park in one of them until he had a space painted around it and assigned the number to himself...

    I know they'll reject any appeal due to the sign, but it's the sudden change in policy without notice that is annoying me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭savagethegoat


    just pay the fin, otherwise the cost could be off the scale. You'd have to plead gillty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭CardinalJ


    just pay the fin, otherwise the cost could be off the scale. You'd have to plead gillty.

    I've till after 4 before 24 hours expires.

    Called the management company this AM. Apparently they've a problem with people who haven't paid their management fees. What that means is that one of the directors who lives on site, would have called the clamp company to clamp a car that was parked in it's allocated spot, however when the clampers are there they decided to clamp everyone who was parked in the normal undesignated spaces.

    I asked him was there a change in policy regarding the common areas and he said not really, but when the clampers are called he couldn't comment on what they'll do. Which is obviously, clamp everything they can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,267 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    how about removing the clamp.. and parking elsewhere.
    or putting false plates on your car when you park in an area that is not a public place under the road traffic act 1964 to 201x as amended

    no sign of your car, no sign of the clamp.

    see what happens


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,934 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    Get a set of these under yer car.
    429410d1237386528-43-super-swamper-tsl-sx-h1s-img_0002.jpg
    I'd like to see them clamp those...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,423 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Get a set of these under yer car.
    429410d1237386528-43-super-swamper-tsl-sx-h1s-img_0002.jpg
    I'd like to see them clamp those...

    They'd use a barnacle instead of a clam for that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,127 ✭✭✭kirving


    I wonder would the attempt that with a car that had a crack in the screen? I know hundreds of pounds of force can be generated by relatively little pressure over a large area, but I really don't like the idea of messing around with a windscreen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,015 ✭✭✭Pat Dunne


    OSI wrote: »
    That sounds incredibly illegal.

    It it was agreed at the AGM of the Management Company to introduce clamping, then it is perfectly legal, as the Mangement Company is owned by all the home owners of the Apartment Development.

    If this was not agreed at the Management Company AGM, then it is illegal!

    Please do not confuse the Management Company which is owned by all the Home Owners. With the Management Company Agents, who are employed on a contractual basis by the Management Company (the Home Owners).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Pat Dunne wrote: »
    It it was agreed at the AGM of the Management Company to introduce clamping, then it is perfectly legal, as the Mangement Company is owned by all the home owners of the Apartment Development.

    If this was not agreed at the Management Company AGM, then it is illegal!

    Please do not confuse the Management Company which is owned by all the Home Owners. With the Management Company Agents, who are employed on a contractual basis by the Management Company (the Home Owners).

    I dunno about that: your parking space, whether assigned or not is part your property deed. A couple of cranky residents have zero power to countermand such an instrument. ..

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,423 ✭✭✭✭josip


    galwaytt wrote: »
    I dunno about that: your parking space, whether assigned or not is part your property deed. A couple of cranky residents have zero power to countermand such an instrument. ..

    Usually it's leased rather than owned outright.
    And the lease would contain provision for decisions taken at AGM/EGM.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    galwaytt wrote: »
    I dunno about that: your parking space, whether assigned or not is part your property deed. A couple of cranky residents have zero power to countermand such an instrument. ..

    In a MUD the only thing you own is the air between the outside walls, everything else is owned by the OMC and they lease it to you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭BnB


    Get a bolt cutters and cut the clamp off.

    If they ask you who who cut it off, tell them you don't know.

    There is no way in hell they are going to take you to court for it. They know they haven't a legal leg to stand on.


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