Tax and Doe

Loujo

Hope someone can shed some light on this. Husband got stopped by Garda checkpoint yesterday, has 10 days to produce tax and Doe regardless of fail or not. Problem we have is money, can't afford to do both at present as we're christening our baby in two weeks. Does anyone know what happens or what's the fine/points of he doesn't produce both with the 10days?

Fred Swanson

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punisher5112

Test is €111.5 then tax 3 months.

Was it booked for test?

Was he driving to test?

It's like the nct points and fine

L1011

60 quid fine for no tax if its within 2 months, potential seizure of vehicle if over.

DOE though - court and a Class A fine is the potential there - 5 grand. Probably less, but it can be that high.

I would cut back on the christening glam a bit!

Sleeper12

Husband was lucky. Garda could have gotten the van toed away. Happened to a friend a few years ago. Toe truck cost him 120 plus the cost of taxing the van

RossieMan

Jesus Christ. People's priorities.

Have a few less pints and tax the damn thing.

Loujo

RossieMan wrote: »

Jesus Christ. People's priorities.

Have a few less pints and tax the damn thing.

Nothing to do with pints,neither if us drink. Our priest alone charges €200 for christening. He has only the van 3 weeks, ges already spent 300Euro replacing clutch etc hence why money is tight, unfortunately we aren't loaded!

Pro Hoc Vice

Loujo wrote: »

Nothing to do with pints,neither if us drink. Our priest alone charges €200 for christening. He has only the van 3 weeks, ges already spent 300Euro replacing clutch etc hence why money is tight, unfortunately we aren't loaded!

Are you serious €200 to the priest. What a rip off.

L1011

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

Are you serious €200 to the priest. What a rip off.

Its usually "voluntary". The "" being critically important there.

Fred Swanson

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hullaballoo

You can defer your child's Christening if you cannot afford it at present.

You cannot defer your compliance with the RTAs if you want to own and use a car. These expenses are mandatory. Your child's indoctrination is discretionary.

Loujo

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

Are you serious €200 to the priest. What a rip off.

Tell me about it!

Mrs OBumble

Try another priest?

Or postpone the baptism for six months, and go to church one a week in the meantime. If you do that, you might find the fee drops considerably.

IRAC War

Have you tried prayer?

Falcon L

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If you consider the figure too high you are entitled to say so, but without the offensive remark

Fred Swanson

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Mrs OBumble

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

Are you serious €200 to the priest. What a rip off.

As well as the priest, it usually covers a preparation session and use of the church for an hour or so (by the time you gather, and then have the chat / photos afterwards, it really does take that long).

200 is extremely high. But maybe it applied in some cases where the church feels that that family see it as purely a social rather than religious occasion, or has concerns about risks the church may face during the event.

Pat Mustard

We might move back on topic now, please.

BattleCorp

Loujo wrote: »

Hope someone can shed some light on this. Husband got stopped by Garda checkpoint yesterday, has 10 days to produce tax and Doe regardless of fail or not. Problem we have is money, can't afford to do both at present as we're christening our baby in two weeks. Does anyone know what happens or what's the fine/points of he doesn't produce both with the 10days?

As always I stand to be corrected but I doubt it matters if you don't produce both within 10 days. The facts are that your husband was stopped, didn't have the required tax and DoE so getting them now is pretty much after the fact. I doubt getting them now would stop prosecution/fines/points etc.

It might lessen the fines etc. but I doubt the Gardaí will ignore the fact that they weren't on the car at the time of the offence.

Claw Hammer

BattleCorp wrote: »

As always I stand to be corrected but I doubt it matters if you don't produce both within 10 days. The facts are that your husband was stopped, didn't have the required tax and DoE so getting them now is pretty much after the fact. I doubt getting them now would stop prosecution/fines/points etc.

It might lessen the fines etc. but I doubt the Gardaí will ignore the fact that they weren't on the car at the time of the offence.

Quite often the courts will dismiss the charge if the matter has been put right by the time of the hearing. If you can't afford to run a car don't buy one.

uck51js9zml2yt

Not having the money is no reason not to comply with the law. You have the money for the christening, postpone it.

I'm hearing stories like this every day of the week in work and a lot of cases of seized vehicles.

Postpone the christening, get it doe'd and get 3 months tax. You'll probably have arrears for July at this stage ( assuming you bought it in July)
If you couldn't afford to tax it you could have declared it off the road within 21 days of sale.

Marcusm

The sacrament of Baptism can be performed by any member of any Christian church using oil and water; it does not require a priest and the extraction of money to perform a sacrament (while conforming to the canons of the Catholic Church) is surely something which would bemuse Jesus Christ, should you be the sort of person who believes in Him.

ted1

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

As well as the priest, it usually covers a preparation session and use of the church for an hour or so (by the time you gather, and then have the chat / photos afterwards, it really does take that long).

200 is extremely high. But maybe it applied in some cases where the church feels that that family see it as purely a social rather than religious occasion, or has concerns about risks the church may face during the event.

We just got our youngest christened in June at no cost , I did make a donation but none was asked.
That was in Killiney parish, maybe the OP should shop around,

Fred Swanson

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myshirt

Is the Priest supposed to subside on fresh air is it?

€200.00 isn't too unreasonable guys, come on.

Fred Swanson

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Pro Hoc Vice

myshirt wrote: »

Is the Priest supposed to subside on fresh air is it?

€200.00 isn't too unreasonable guys, come on.

Parish priests get salary and rent free accommodation.

Marcusm

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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If the child is newly born, I doubt whether that will be an issue when it comes to school - the constitutional promises to cherish every child equally taken with the obligation as a result of the recent children's rights referendum likely make that unlawful for all schools which take government funds and this will proceed through the courts if not taken up quite quickly by Ms Zappone in any event.

Mrs OBumble

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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However a recent survey shows that rates vary widely throughout the country. ref http://irishcatholic.ie/article/widespread-variation-priests%E2%80%99-remuneration

And in some places, the fees from events like the one which is impoverishing the OP are deducted from the salary paid by the bishop.

Legally and practically, in the short term taxing the car is more important than baptising the child. Longer term, it may be different depending on the family's aims and beliefs.

Unless you are from that section of society which would see delaying a major family social event a embarrassing beyond belief.

ted1

Fred Swanson wrote: »

You need the auld cert if you want the child to go to a catholic school.

You seldom need to produce it

ted1

myshirt wrote: »

Is the Priest supposed to subside on fresh air is it?

€200.00 isn't too unreasonable guys, come on.

For some people it is 200 times more than they have left at the end of the month

sword1

myshirt wrote: »

Is the Priest supposed to subside on fresh air is it?

€200.00 isn't too unreasonable guys, come on.

He could easily have 10+ a week,add in the offerings and weddings etc and we should go back to the times when the people worked the land as slaves and any earnings were sent up the line to bishops,popes etc living as kings .Seriously though it is well done how people think they have to give a good share of their income to priests. The Mafia tried to copy the idea but could never do it as well as the church .

A child is a precious gift. Celebrating it's safe arrival is great. But, what example are ye setting by breaking the Law in order to pay for that celebration? Ye are obviously young, so please learn from this and learn to prioritise. Are ye practising your Religion? (I assume it's a Catholic Christening). If the answer is "No", then put the Ceremony off and get your affairs in order. A few weeks either way will make no difference.

Johnboy1951

Tell the priest you cannot afford to pay and let him make a decision about it.
If he insists on receiving it immediately then say no, and postpone or cancel the christening.
He might suggest €20 per week or so until paid ....... or he might just do it for something more reasonable such as NIL!

Pat Mustard

Pat Mustard wrote: »

We might move back on topic now, please.

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Discussion of religion, baptism, priests and their fees and/or religious donations have nothing to do with the query in the OP and are very much off topic.

Further off topic posts will be deleted, in addition to such other action as may be necessary.

Please move back on topic now.

IRAC War

Loujo wrote: »

Hope someone can shed some light on this. Husband got stopped by Garda checkpoint yesterday, has 10 days to produce tax and Doe regardless of fail or not. Problem we have is money, can't afford to do both <snip>

Do the one you can afford to lessen the fine and points. Hope for an extremely sympathetic guard - but don't hold your breath.