Massye 5455 rear wheel spin

amacca

Anyone any ideas why a massey 5455 (2005 model) might have problems climbing even gentle hills?

Problem first presented itself when reversing up approx 30 degree incline. One rear wheel spinning and the other not rotating. Then it had problems going uphill forward. Issue seemed to resolve itself for an hour or two afterwards but its back now. Tractor is not on particularly soft or slippy ground. Would have had no bother doing what it can't do now in the past......seems to even be problematic for it to reverse on the flat....

Its like there is only power/drive going to one rear wheel..........or one of them is only getting drive intermittently

asked this in the tractors forum as well but thought Id be as likely to get an answer here too.

orm0nd

Is it the same wheel that spins? or does it alternative

amacca

orm0nd wrote: »

Is it the same wheel that spins? or does it alternative

Not fully sure, in a bit of a panic here thinking about repair costs......Ill check it out suspect its the same one.

emaherx

amacca wrote: »

Not fully sure, in a bit of a panic here thinking about repair costs......Ill check it out suspect its the same one.

Don't panic, might be simple. Are the tyres in good condition and worn evenly?

When it happens is one half axle hotter than the other? It could well be break is binding on the side that is not spinning. That could be down to a sticking hand break cable or actuator.

mayota

amacca wrote: »

Anyone any ideas why a massey 5455 (2005 model) might have problems climbing even gentle hills?

Problem first presented itself when reversing up approx 30 degree incline. One rear wheel spinning and the other not rotating. Then it had problems going uphill forward. Issue seemed to resolve itself for an hour or two afterwards but its back now. Tractor is not on particularly soft or slippy ground. Would have had no bother doing what it can't do now in the past......seems to even be problematic for it to reverse on the flat....

Its like there is only power/drive going to one rear wheel..........or one of them is only getting drive intermittently

asked this in the tractors forum as well but thought Id be as likely to get an answer here too.

Drive to one wheel is normal, that's why diff locks are needed. Do you have a front loader fitted, if so this could leave it light at the back? Also as previous poster said check for brakes sticking.

amacca

Tks for replies- definitely just one wheel spinning/rotating/with drive going to it. That wheel is on the left hand side as you look at it from the rear. ...or passenger side if it was a car.

the other wheel stays still even you are just going up a gentle incline forwards or backwards or if any sort of resistance occurs i.e.: drop a bucket and try to drive against it even just gently.

I can't tell if this wheel is just free wheeling all the time or has some drive when you start off slow. Got a bid of a skid with one wheel on smooth tarmac going round a corner when I applied the brakes going the 500m or so home to take a better look at it.

Tis again for the responses, ill check what was suggested.


tyres are worn evenly both sides but only about 30% left on the rears --- its definitely not lack of traction in the field i was in though...happens on gentle slopes

yup it has a loader fitted and it should have a slightly smaller model imo so a bit front heavy but its been like that for years and hasn't caused this issue on much steeper hills

mythos110

amacca wrote: »

Tks for replies- definitely just one wheel spinning/rotating/with drive going to it. That wheel is on the left hand side as you look at it from the rear. ...or passenger side if it was a car.

the other wheel stays still even you are just going up a gentle incline forwards or backwards or if any sort of resistance occurs i.e.: drop a bucket and try to drive against it even just gently.

I can't tell if this wheel is just free wheeling all the time or has some drive when you start off slow. Got a bid of a skid with one wheel on smooth tarmac going round a corner when I applied the brakes going the 500m or so home to take a better look at it.

Tis again for the responses, ill check what was suggested.


tyres are worn evenly both sides but only about 30% left on the rears --- its definitely not lack of traction in the field i was in though...happens on gentle slopes

yup it has a loader fitted and it should have a slightly smaller model imo so a bit front heavy but its been like that for years and hasn't caused this issue on much steeper hills

Have you tried the diff lock? Could be something in the differential but as others mentioned, check the brakes. Even try splitting the brakes and braking on the side that's spinning to see if the power goes to the other wheel.

emaherx

mythos110 wrote: »

Have you tried the diff lock? Could be something in the differential but as others mentioned, check the brakes. Even try splitting the brakes and braking on the side that's spinning to see if the power goes to the other wheel.

Splitting the break pedals and testing one at a time is a good idea.

On my previous comment, I mentioned handbreak, it won't be this as your tractor I believe has a transmission break in the Central housing which wouldn't cause one wheel to lock up.

You mentioned skidding on one wheel also, this implies at the very least your breaks are imbalanced, but may also do this if one was binding.

larthehar

Split the brakes and just push down the pedals separately at the same time.. see which one goes down further.. my guess is the sticking one won't go very far.. this would indicate that brakes are stuck on or the adjustment is so badly off it is like having the brake pressed all the time.
Pressing the brake pedal with a few quick, short hops of your foot might get it to release if they are stuck..

emaherx

A 30 degree incline is a fair slope in fairness.

https://youtu.be/tEEgINoP2-o

amacca

Well I feel like a bit of a gob****e

After all that looks like my estimate of of how worn the back tyres are was optimistic...

after messing around with it and trying splitting the brakes ...both wheels had drive in forward and reverse in all gears and ranges

it seems at this stage to be just a combination of a slightly greasy surface and rear tyres having no grip (and possibly the 4wd not engaging which ill check tomorrow)

Thanks again for the help - I'm tempted to take a photo of the incline and overlay a protractor (with some proof of whats horizontal) but I'd probably have made a balls of estimating that too

raypallas

amacca wrote:

Well I feel like a bit of a gob****e

No harm no foul, only stupid question is the one you don't ask!

Sam Kade

A fwd tractor is really only a two wheel drive tractor or a three wheel drive with the diff pressed.

emaherx

Sam Kade wrote: »

A fwd tractor is really only a two wheel drive tractor or a three wheel drive with the diff pressed.

I'm pretty sure the 5455 has a front and rear diff-lock, which would make all four wheels work together.