Court reports online?

jenny smith

If someone had pleaded guilty at Dublin Circuit Criminal Court to a sexual offence would there be a report of the case online?

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jenny smith

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have the paper very little detail.

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jenny smith

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But all are not online?

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IRAC War

jenny smith wrote: »

If someone had pleaded guilty at Dublin Circuit Criminal Court to a sexual offence would there be a report of the case online?

jenny smith wrote: »

But all are not online?

Circuit criminal court cases are not reported. Reporting normally takes the form of a Judgement; the things you'll see law students wading through and generally using to reduce the distance a pint has to travel from table to mouth in my particular case.

Generally when you're looking at a reported case you're looking at a number of pages on why a court had arrived at a decision. In criminal cases the Jury arrive at a decision on guilt and there is certainly no record of how or why they arrived at that decision. You may see an appeal reported on, fr example if during a technical legal phase of the trial the Judge erred in law but that would happen in the court of appeal where judgements are reported.

As for transcripts these aren't generally taken, one might be able to get access to the books of evidence if one was party to the case but the actual 'goings on in court' requires a bum on a seat. That bum usually take the form of a journalist, bum usually being the operative term given the level of court reporting.

Sexual cases are usually held in camera meaning that the public are excluded so that closes off that avenue also. This is for the protection of the identity of the victim.

I'd welcome any corrections to the above and any resources I might read up on as I was attempting to research this in a bit more detail and couldn't find anything on courts of record - I'm no doubt using phrases I've picked up watching too much TV.

What's the current state of digital recording - has that been pretty much popped on the back burner?

Pro Hoc Vice

IRAC War wrote: »

Circuit criminal court cases are not reported. Reporting normally takes the form of a Judgement; the things you'll see law students wading through and generally using to reduce the distance a pint has to travel from table to mouth in my particular case.

Generally when you're looking at a reported case you're looking at a number of pages on why a court had arrived at a decision. In criminal cases the Jury arrive at a decision on guilt and there is certainly no record of how or why they arrived at that decision. You may see an appeal reported on, fr example if during a technical legal phase of the trial the Judge erred in law but that would happen in the court of appeal where judgements are reported.

As for transcripts these aren't generally taken, one might be able to get access to the books of evidence if one was party to the case but the actual 'goings on in court' requires a bum on a seat. That bum usually take the form of a journalist, bum usually being the operative term given the level of court reporting.

Sexual cases are usually held in camera meaning that the public are excluded so that closes off that avenue also. This is for the protection of the identity of the victim.

I'd welcome any corrections to the above and any resources I might read up on as I was attempting to research this in a bit more detail and couldn't find anything on courts of record - I'm no doubt using phrases I've picked up watching too much TV.

What's the current state of digital recording - has that been pretty much popped on the back burner?

In all Criminal cases in Ireland a transcript is taken by the DAR. Only a party can request access to the transcript of the DArR In Circuit trials, the Transcript is released to the Defendant in the Event of an Appeal, that process is automatic once the Appeal is lodged.

IRAC War

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

In all Criminal cases in Ireland a transcript is taken by the DAR. Only a party can request access to the transcript of the DArR In Circuit trials, the Transcript is released to the Defendant in the Event of an Appeal, that process is automatic once the Appeal is lodged.

Many Thanks for your answer!

Is the DAR a speech recognition type affair or does it simply record audio?

While I completely understand the need to keep this sort of thing controlled in criminal cases, especially ones of a sexual nature it astounds me that cases Roe v Wade 410 U.S. 113 (1973) are available in their entirety. That's getting on for half a century ago at this stage.

I suppose that is one advantage of the time limits in the US Supreme Court or is that yet another myth I've picked up from Boston Legal?

Thank you again and I hope you folks don't mind the rather daft questions.

IRAC War

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

In all Criminal cases in Ireland a transcript is taken by the DAR. Only a party can request access to the transcript of the DArR In Circuit trials, the Transcript is released to the Defendant in the Event of an Appeal, that process is automatic once the Appeal is lodged.

Many Thanks for your answer!

Is the DAR a speech recognition type affair or does it simply record audio?

While I completely understand the need to keep this sort of thing controlled in criminal cases, especially ones of a sexual nature it astounds me that cases Roe v Wade 410 U.S. 113 (1973) are available in their entirety but our SC court proceedings are not. That's getting on for half a century ago at this stage.

I suppose that is one advantage of the time limits in the US Supreme Court or is that yet another myth I've picked up from Boston Legal?

Thank you again and I hope you folks don't mind the rather daft questions.

Pro Hoc Vice

IRAC War wrote: »

Many Thanks for your answer!

Is the DAR a speech recognition type affair or does it simply record audio?

While I completely understand the need to keep this sort of thing controlled in criminal cases, especially ones of a sexual nature it astounds me that cases Roe v Wade 410 U.S. 113 (1973) are available in their entirety. That's getting on for half a century ago at this stage.

I suppose that is one advantage of the time limits in the US Supreme Court or is that yet another myth I've picked up from Boston Legal?

Thank you again and I hope you folks don't mind the rather daft questions.

Roe v Wade was a SC decision in US, the X case is also available in reported form from both HC and SC in Ireland, and any important HC or SC judgement is readily available.

DAR is digital audio recording it is transcribed and released as needed the audio can also be released if needed.

http://www.supremecourt.ie/supremecourt/sclibrary3.nsf/pagecurrent/9FA0AA8E8D261FC48025765C0042F6B3?opendocument&l=en[URL][/url]

IRAC War

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

Roe v Wade was a SC decision in US, the X case is also available in reported form from both HC and SC in Ireland, and any important HC or SC judgement is readily available.

DAR is digital audio recording it is transcribed and released as needed the audio can also be released if needed.

Sorry My apologies for being unclear, I mean you can listen to the audio of the case, most interesting IMHO.

Pro Hoc Vice

IRAC War wrote: »

Sorry My apologies for being unclear, I mean you can listen to the audio of the case, most interesting IMHO.

The USA has had both Audio and video for broadcast of many courts for years. But for historic reasons Ireland does not allow that.