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Unclaimed Postal Packet

  • 03-08-2016 8:24am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2


    Dear all,

    I am writing you with a very specific and urgent question. A postal packet was sent to Ireland from abroad but was returned to the country of origin with a notice that it was 'unclaimed'. My question is whether the packet can still be considered delivered/received and on what grounds? If you cannot give me a concrete answer could you please indicate some legislation or case law that might provide an answer.
    Thank you very much in advance for your time and effort. I am lost in the depths of Irish law.

    Yours truly,
    Emil


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,170 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    "Unclaimed" would almost certainly mean it was undelivered with a notice left at the address and uncollected from the local delivery services unit within the time period - this is a number of days.

    It would not suffice as proof of delivery in Ireland, because it wasn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,718 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    It interesting because the packet would have made it to the address but through no fault of the postal system or sender the receipient wasn't there to receive it. They had ample opportunity to retrieve the packet from the post office.

    Would the problem not lie with the receipient who made no effort to retrieve it. ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭nuckeythompson


    It's a failed delivery. Not delivered


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭Story Bud?


    _Brian wrote: »
    It interesting because the packet would have made it to the address but through no fault of the postal system or sender the receipient wasn't there to receive it. They had ample opportunity to retrieve the packet from the post office.

    Would the problem not lie with the receipient who made no effort to retrieve it. ??

    There are many many examples on this forum of no attempt being made in any way to deliver parcels and instead only the advice slip being left at the house. Postmen admit that they don't always carry the parcels and instead leave these advice slips for recipients to collect themselves. There have been times when the postman has left the slip, and the recipient has opened the door to be told the parcel is not actually with the postman.

    There would be no concrete proof, that the advice slip was left for or received by the recipient.

    There is no proof of delivery here or even proof of attempted delivery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,377 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    _Brian wrote: »
    It interesting because the packet would have made it to the address but through no fault of the postal system or sender the receipient wasn't there to receive it. They had ample opportunity to retrieve the packet from the post office.

    Would the problem not lie with the receipient who made no effort to retrieve it. ??

    You could make an argument that the recipient never received the delivery notice though? I used work in Amazon a few years ago, you'd be surprised how often the courier would say they attempted delivery but when you check the details they had not left the note, or left it in wrong place/etc. The couriers at the time used take photos of the front door if they had to leave a note, and a lot of times it wasn't a door or wasn't the right house...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 e.rusinov94


    Thank you all for the amazingly quick response! :):):) The matter here is that a Court is asking for proof that an unclaimed package can be deemed "delivered" and I was looking through many many many legislative acts for something that proves this. Does any one know where should I look? I already looked through some postal services regulatory acts and things of the sort. In Bulgaria such matters are regulated by the Civil Code, but from what I see the Irish law system is totally different. Thank you once again!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,769 ✭✭✭nuac


    Mod
    Sorry, legal advice cannot be given on this thread
    Thread closed


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