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Short men

  • 29-07-2016 2:14pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 511 ✭✭✭


    I'm a shorter man, at 5'7. I'm usually one of the shorter males in the room, it took me awhile to come to terms with that but now I have.
    I started thinking about my height recently because I was at the races and 4 people assumed I was a jockey. (Most looking for tips) some men some women, some just asked "oh are you not on today?"..
    I don't have much of an issue with women. There's alway the ones who only want lads over 6'0, but they're not worth worrying about.

    For other shorter men. How's your dating life? Does or has your height affected your chances with women? I think, with the exception of the 6 footers only club your confidence in yourself and your stature is more of an issue for women.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭daveyeh


    I'm at eye line height with most womens hooters. No complaints here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,710 ✭✭✭Corvo


    I'm 5'8 and never had a problem with the opposite sex. Height isn't everything OP.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Musketeer4


    I'm 6'4" and I wish I was shorter. I actually find it to be a handicap around women as most are a fair amount shorter. I have a friend who is 5'9'' and I'd consider 5'9-10'' to be the ideal height because your body is very well proportioned (provided you're fitish) but you are still reasonably tall but not tall tall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭cantdecide


    I'm 6'4" and my height has been no advantage to me at all in terms of dating. It's been a disadvantage if anything. I can be a little socially awkward too and it's quite difficult to avoid standing out. I always feel that you need to have a big personality to go with a big body and some women have admitted that I was big and scary when we first met.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭kkhornet


    I'm about 5'6 or 5'7 but I wish I was a little bit taller,I wish I was a baller,
    I wish I had a girl who looked good, I would call her.
    I wish I had a rabbit in a hat with a bat
    And a six four Impala


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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    Musketeer4 wrote: »
    I'm 6'4" and I wish I was shorter. I actually find it to be a handicap around women as most are a fair amount shorter. I have a friend who is 5'9'' and I'd consider 5'9-10'' to be the ideal height because your body is very well proportioned (provided you're fitish) but you are still reasonably tall but not tall tall.
    Funny, I'm that height and I've often wished I was a few inches taller. A lot of my mates would be in the 6'2 to 6'4 range and I feel like that's sort of the ideal, at least in terms of the unconscious assumptions and thin-slicing we do.

    Though I'll admit I'd never considered how hard it must be to listen to conversations in pubs when you're way above everyone else. I find it hard enough as it is already!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    I think the height thing is what you make of it.

    If you've got the inter-personal skills to leverage whatever advantages you have that's the main thing.

    Two equal men who differ only in height will probably diverge along height lines with the taller being more successful, but given that height isn't something you can change and there are things you can change that have a much bigger impact, it's probably not much use focusing on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,803 ✭✭✭pappyodaniel


    Tall, dark, handsome.

    I have never, not even once met or heard a woman say, "You know what I really find attractive? Short men!"

    To be honest, I have a preference too. I much prefer shorter women, and I find women in high heels a turn off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    TheBiz wrote: »
    I'm a shorter man, at 5'7. I'm usually one of the shorter males in the room, it took me awhile to come to terms with that but now I have.
    I started thinking about my height recently because I was at the races and 4 people assumed I was a jockey. (Most looking for tips) some men some women, some just asked "oh are you not on today?"..
    I don't have much of an issue with women. There's alway the ones who only want lads over 6'0, but they're not worth worrying about.

    For other shorter men. How's your dating life? Does or has your height affected your chances with women? I think, with the exception of the 6 footers only club your confidence in yourself and your stature is more of an issue for women.

    Was this in Ireland? So all these 6 footers were at the races the same day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    I'm 6ft 4in. I'd rather be this height than "short", I think the pros far outweigh the cons.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭jackofalltrades


    TheBiz wrote: »
    For other shorter men. How's your dating life? Does or has your height affected your chances with women?
    I think, with the exception of the 6 footers only club your confidence in yourself and your stature is more of an issue for women.
    The thing is it's very hard to know what effect being short has on your dating life.
    I know from reading articles that it makes things more difficult when it comes to online dating.
    But unless you have women turning you down and stating that it's specifically because of your height then you'll never know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Saipanne wrote: »
    I'm 6ft 4in. I'd rather be this height than "short", I think the pros far outweigh the cons.

    How's your back?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    How's your back?

    Great. Life is great up here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,953 ✭✭✭aujopimur


    How big big is your knob?.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,519 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    aujopimur wrote: »
    How big big is your knob?.

    Please take these sorts of "jokes" elsewhere. Thanks.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭macchoille


    Well I'm just under 5'5. Did it affect my 'love' life ? It made it challenging to say the least. Being told by women that I was too short and were hardly 5 foot themselves was a real kick in the teeth. On the rare occasion getting pushed and shoved by 'hard lads' trying to prove some sort of point was a real treat and if I stood up for myself 'I've small man complex'.

    Did I get lucky, yeah a bit but I had to make a serious effort, I even went out with a girl several inches taller than me.

    Where am I now ..... married with two kids ! All that happened is I stopped worrying about my height and met my wife and best friend on a night out when I wasn't actually even looking and got hitched 3 years later.

    Height is not a deal breaker for every woman out there although it certainly does help. You just have to find the ones who don't see it as important and just forget about the rest.

    In my eyes women looking for men based on height/build is no different to men looking for women based on their physical attributes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,971 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    macchoille wrote: »

    In my eyes women looking for men based on height/build is no different to men looking for women based on their physical attributes.

    I agree, if you get on with someone physical features tend to blur into being inconsequential. When I was younger, like 19ish, I'll admit I thought height was particularly important in a man. Then I met one around 1 inch taller than myself, I'd say he was 5ft6. We got on great, after the first few seconds of meeting him I never even saw his height again...like I never registered it again. I went out with him for a few years.
    Shallow, young, stupid people are just people who haven't met the right person yet I think in most cases.
    Also I know one guy who is considerably smaller than me,maybe under 5ft, and has the most enviable happy marriage in my orbit! He was never short of beautiful gfs and his wife is gorgeous. It's definitely not a massive for women once it comes to it.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    TheBiz wrote: »
    For other shorter men. How's your dating life? Does or has your height affected your chances with women?

    I would be generally the shortest person in a room too - and I can not say I ever felt bothered by it - or held back or affected by it - on any level except maybe when I was in school and our PE teacher went through a phase of wanting us to stop playing football and start playing indoor basketball. Though being honest with myself even then my height was not the real issue. My complete lack of depth perception and ball coordination was :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    5' 8" here.

    Pretty much Mr Average, height-wise and build-wise, which itself is a bonus because everything fits!! Even my golf clubs don't require significant adjustment!

    The only 'regret' I've ever had about my height is the impact the slight lack of it had when I played rugby.

    As for the love life, no issues. My wife is the taller of the two of us (6') and despite the assumptions of people who express opinion about it, I've no issue with her height or her wearing heels - it's quite amusing the number of people who express surprise / shock at the fact she wears them when we go out!

    Given the problems she has getting everything from clothes to bikes that fit, I'm quite happy being towards the middle of the curve :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,596 ✭✭✭hairyslug


    At 5'7 I'm the second smallest of my group of friends, I wouldn't blame my lack of a love life in teenage years down to my height. As I got older, I didn't thjnk about it and had no problems with relationships m I always knew I was small but it wasn't until recently I was with a group of friends and they all towered over me that I realised how small I was. Probably would like to be a about 3/4 inches taller but hey what can you do


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Charizard


    Im 5'10, Im not small but Ive always been regarded as small by most people as my best friends in life have all been 6'6.
    My brother is the same 6 foot but cause our friends were giants for years people said we were short, when in reality were a couple of inches taller than them.
    A few times girls have said comments to us calling us shorties, then again it could have been cause Im a bit arrogant and may have been asking for it :P
    Now that Im 30 it hasnt been said to me in years, my wife is 5'3 though so it could easily be because of the people Im mostly seen with :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,334 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    I'm 5'11/12" and would actually prefer to be taller, dunno why really.

    Generally, I've always gone for girls around 5'4", though my long-term GF is about 5'10" which is something I never thought would happen. Height isn't the big deal, it's the person.

    That said, one of my best friends is about 5'2" and really self-conscious about it. It definitely affects his confidence with women and a lot of girls we know have said they can't imagine how he'll ever find someone, which seems pretty shallow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    macchoille wrote: »
    Well I'm just under 5'5. Did it affect my 'love' life ? It made it challenging to say the least. Being told by women that I was too short and were hardly 5 foot themselves was a real kick in the teeth. On the rare occasion getting pushed and shoved by 'hard lads' trying to prove some sort of point was a real treat and if I stood up for myself 'I've small man complex'.

    Did I get lucky, yeah a bit but I had to make a serious effort, I even went out with a girl several inches taller than me.

    Where am I now ..... married with two kids ! All that happened is I stopped worrying about my height and met my wife and best friend on a night out when I wasn't actually even looking and got hitched 3 years later.

    Height is not a deal breaker for every woman out there although it certainly does help. You just have to find the ones who don't see it as important and just forget about the rest.

    In my eyes women looking for men based on height/build is no different to men looking for women based on their physical attributes.
    True but slightly unfair that women have the ability to change almost every physical attribute and make themselves far mroe attractive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭cantdecide


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    True but slightly unfair that women have the ability to change almost every physical attribute and make themselves far mroe attractive

    True but men can fake it too. I always maintain that men assess women on traits and women assess men on performance. This might explain why 'successful' men are more attractive- it isn't necessarily the materialistic trappings, IMO it's the proof of performance; the ability to provide now and later. Not to mention the mystic power of the *'confidence' we're all supposed to be full of at all time as men. If you don't have it, you must learn to fake it.





    *a hollow trait in my opinion that tells you little about anyone- the PUA world exploit the obsession with confidence and many seem to lap it up unquestioningly. It brings out an emperors-new-clothes reaction in me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,904 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    5ft7" here, and yes my height has has been a factor in women not wanting to date me over the years but having said that I've still done ok.

    Having 2 small parents I was doomed from the start :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Seen a French comedy last night at the flicks about a guy who is short (4ft5"). Obviously it's mostly played for jokes but not entirely so, as there was quite a few serious angles on it also and overall it have to say it was a lot better than I had expected it to be. Not the greatest film in the world now, but certainly worth a look. It's on in Cineworld and the IMC in Dun Laoghaire if anyone wants to check it out.

    If you're currently trying to woo a tall chick, perfect film to take her to :P



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭Shint0


    TheBiz wrote: »
    Does or has your height affected your chances with women?
    I (woman) was in a relationship with someone who is about 5'6" and it seems he never had any problem finding women attracted to him and used get propositioned a lot in his job. We used have a great laugh about it.

    Best. R*de. Ever.

    Short Answer: No


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭Pac1Man


    Shint0 wrote: »
    Short Answer: No

    What answer?

    Come on!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,779 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    View from the female side:

    I prefer men to not be too tall - I like the slightly "boyish" look it gives them. Especially if the hair is longish. And a nice smile.
    Also, they're easier to hug when they are closer to my own height.
    I'm only 5 ft 3-and-a-half: if I meet a six-footer-plus I have to stand on tiptoes to talk to him!

    So there - I like the shorter man.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Shint0 wrote: »
    Best. R*de. Ever.

    I'm sure your current partner is delighted with this.. :D:D :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭Shint0


    Pac1Man wrote: »
    What answer?

    Come on!!
    Well obviously there has to be some attraction to physical attributes but chemistry doesn't necessarily hang on physicality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭Shint0


    smash wrote: »
    I'm sure your current partner is delighted with this.. :D:D :P
    No comment :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭Pac1Man


    Shint0 wrote: »
    Well obviously there has to be some attraction to physical attributes but chemistry doesn't necessarily hang on physicality.

    I was just making fun of your choice of words!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'm fairly short and it's easily the physical attibute I most dislike in myself. I don't feel like a "complete" human being some times due to it to be honest. Would dearly love to be 5'10. My solution has basically been to try and accept that I'll just never have as good a life as someone taller and that's just tough s'hit - it isn't preordained by the universe that any person should have an enjoyable life and most people who've ever lived have suffered in many ways.. if i was shorter it would be even worse or I could have been disfigured etc..


  • Posts: 21,679 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm fairly short and it's easily the physical attibute I most dislike in myself. I don't feel like a "complete" human being some times due to it to be honest. Would dearly love to be 5'10. My solution has basically been to try and accept that I'll just never have as good a life as someone taller and that's just tough s'hit - it isn't preordained by the universe that any person should have an enjoyable life and most people who've ever lived have suffered in many ways.. if i was shorter it would be even worse or I could have been disfigured etc..

    Your belief that having an enjoyable life is dependent upon height seems terribly defeatest to me. We are all given this one life. What we do with it, how we choose to view the challenges it throws us, is entirely up to us.

    It's not your height holding you back. It's your attitude.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,409 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Saipanne wrote: »
    I'm 6ft 4in. I'd rather be this height than "short", I think the pros far outweigh the cons.

    I'm 6'4 too. What cons?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    My solution has basically been to try and accept that I'll just never have as good a life as someone taller and that's just tough s'hit..

    Never accept such a thing. Even shorter than average people can find love out there in the big bad world.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    endacl wrote: »
    I'm 6'4 too. What cons?

    Emm, airplane seats? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    I'm fairly short and it's easily the physical attibute I most dislike in myself. I don't feel like a "complete" human being some times due to it to be honest. Would dearly love to be 5'10. My solution has basically been to try and accept that I'll just never have as good a life as someone taller and that's just tough s'hit - it isn't preordained by the universe that any person should have an enjoyable life and most people who've ever lived have suffered in many ways.. if i was shorter it would be even worse or I could have been disfigured etc..

    Depending on how you define "a better life", I guarantee you that taller men do not have it easier just because of height unless you are purely talking about playing basketball maybe or women (or men) who only seek tall men. Several shorter men have come on to this thread already saying their height has not posed a problem for them because they have self confidence. I think you are lacking self confidence rather than height because if you had the former, your height would be an insignificant concern. I'm 6'2" and while I'm pretty at ease with myself, I would still love to have more confidence in myself. However it's natural to have hang ups about physical attributes...even the supermodels have them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,214 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I'm fairly short for a guy, I'm under 5'4" in general I'm okay with my height.
    The only thing that bothers me is a sometimes it can be hard to get a pants that fits my short legs. Apart from that nothing really. When I read/hear comments from woman saying that I need a tall man over 6'0" to feel safe/protected. It makes me wonder about their upbring/where they live. I always feel safe and I don't think an extra foot will make me feel any safer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,075 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    6'3 well built with a bit of weight.

    Pro's: Women like the height.

    Cons: Terrible back pain, nothing fits, walk too fast for people, also slow walkers are a nightmare, small cars are a no no, **** at hide and seek.

    Wouldn't mind being around 6'0, as for ladies most of my mates who are under 5'9 have had the better luck with a lad who is 5'5 the luckiest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,409 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Saipanne wrote: »
    Emm, airplane seats? :D
    Row 15.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    endacl wrote: »
    Row 15.

    Struggling to think of more problems. Hard to get shoes that fit?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 511 ✭✭✭TheBiz


    I'm fairly short for a guy, I'm under 5'4" in general I'm okay with my height.
    The only thing that bothers me is a sometimes it can be hard to get a pants that fits my short legs. Apart from that nothing really. When I read/hear comments from woman saying that I need a tall man over 6'0" to feel safe/protected. It makes me wonder about their upbring/where they live. I always feel safe and I don't think an extra foot will make me feel any safer.

    I think an extra foot would probably scare women..

    But I have the same trouble with pants.
    For some reason every brand seems to think all short men are overweight. My 28 waist leaves me swimming in most trousers and jeans!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭jackofalltrades


    ongarboy wrote: »
    Depending on how you define "a better life", I guarantee you that taller men do not have it easier just because of height unless you are purely talking about playing basketball maybe or women (or men) who only seek tall men. Several shorter men have come on to this thread already saying their height has not posed a problem for them because they have self confidence. I think you are lacking self confidence rather than height because if you had the former, your height would be an insignificant concern. I'm 6'2" and while I'm pretty at ease with myself, I would still love to have more confidence in myself. However it's natural to have hang ups about physical attributes...even the supermodels have them!
    Yes but being taller as a man definitely helps you when it comes to dating women.
    So you would have it easier in that regards.
    That and I've read that taller men earn more money on average.

    Also and being able to see at concerts. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 788 ✭✭✭pillphil


    Saipanne wrote: »
    Struggling to think of more problems. Hard to get shoes that fit?

    Higher chance of getting cancer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭05eaftqbrs9jlh


    Saipanne wrote:
    Emm, airplane seats?
    Banging heads off things!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    I'd still rather be tall and handsome, thanks. :)


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,781 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    I'm only 5'6 and it was very challenging when I was younger. I was always self conscious about it as people don't feel bad about constantly saying it or making jokes etc. I was not just short I was skinny too, and looked younger. I was always 'the little guy with glasses' or the baby of the group etc. Not just your piers would say this but adults & parents, anyone! You definitely learn to take a joke and laugh along with it, but for me it was the kind of thing I was reminded of daily, and it definitely affects you. I think I'd be a very different person if I had been tall.

    There is a very clear double standard. Women like "Tall, dark and handsome" - its a very big thing for a lot of them and they don't feel bad for a second about telling you. I lost count of the amount of times women would pat your head and say aww what a cute little guy - but basically no thanks. This is a very good cartoon that shows the double standard. On dating sites all the time you'll see "Don't bother mailing me if you are under 6 foot" - but if a guy put "Only size 10 and below need apply" he'd be shot! Any overweight girl can lose weight through proper diet and exercise but there is nothing in the world bar drastic surgery that can make me taller...

    It took me well into my 20's to just get over it and focus on me and my own confidence levels, and ignore those types of girls. I got online, learned how to talk to women and learned to love myself for who I am. You still have to seek out the girls who its not a problem for - and they can be few and far between.

    In my later days I starter to do really well with women - in just a few years went from the guy who never got any girls to the guy with loads of girls. Right now I'm engaged to an extremely beautiful Brazilian girl who's at least 3" taller than me. We looks kind of hilarious when she's wearing heels as she towers over me. I don't mind in the slightest any more though as someone may mention the height thing but they'll always follow it up with "How the hell did you get a woman like that? Fair play"...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭wivy


    I'm 5'11' so obviously enough I find tall men extremely attractive (not to mention hard to come by)
    But I've yet to hear any woman say they don't like a tall man!


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