Octavia III - cruise control

testarossa40

Question about (standard, non-adaptive) cruise control on a new Octavia III: If I have it engaged, pressing the clutch does not disengage it as it would have on my last car - is this correct? Couldn't find a relevant setting in the setup menu after a brief search.

Terrontress

I think it should. What happens? Does the throttle stay open if you keep the clutch in? Or do the revs drop off and then kick up if, say, you were to go from 5th to 4th?

wonski

In my car cruise control is only cancelled when either brake pedal or cc off is used. This allows for gear change and makes sense really.

Does it bother you? I would prefer system where clutch does not disengage cruise control tbh.

Pretty sure someone with Octavia will answer your question soon, I hope you don't consider mine off topic

testarossa40

Hi Terrontress,

Should have clarified: it's "revs drop off and then kick up" when I let the clutch back up without changing gear - can happen if it looks like traffic ahead might be slowing down but doesn't or picks back up. I'd personally prefer it to knock off as if I'd touched the brakes.

testarossa40

Well, I'm querying this from 2 perspectives; (1) An admittedly personal preference based on what I was used to. I'm not a fan of the fiddly & awkward little cancel switch on the current Octavia/VAG controls, nor that it's located on the left-hand indicator stalk. On my last car (a BMW) it was a button on the right-hand side of the steering wheel and I could easily keep a finger on it while resting that arm on the windowsill & one-arm steering . And (2) I honestly believe it is a potential safety issue. I think when somebody presses the clutch it notifies an impending driving change, ie intention to either speed up or slow down. So I think it would be very prudent for CC to disengage automatically in that scenario until it is reset. Accelerating however can only speed the car up so no issue with that pedal cancelling it.

wonski

I do sometimes shift down to fifth gear when on a motorway and approach a hill and the engine struggles to keep the speed. Not having to switch the cruise control is good thing imo.

I understand you have your habits, but I doubt there is a safety issue with this.

Similarly I prefer the cruise control to return to set speed after acceleration, so I can speed up if needed, and then ease of accelerator and continue crusing along at set speed.

You will probably have to get used to it, unless there is an option to change its settings.

Also slowing down is indicated by braking, depressing a clutch pedal indicates a gear change in most cases.

MojoMaker

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GustavoFring

testarossa40 wrote: »

Question about (standard, non-adaptive) cruise control on a new Octavia III: If I have it engaged, pressing the clutch does not disengage it as it would have on my last car - is this correct? Couldn't find a relevant setting in the setup menu after a brief search.

That's the way it works, same on mine. On a previous Leon mk3 it didn't work like that originally but after a service where a software update was done it did as the Octavia does now. When I discovered that change was a bit of a brown pants moment if I'm honest...

testarossa40

Answered my own question by RTFMing . Posting the relevant extract for posterity on the off-chance somebody else wanted to ask the same question in the future but is put-off by some of the trolling & latent judgementalism that even just asking a simple question seems to attract...

! Warning:
After pressing the clutch pedal, no interrupted control occurs! For example, if a different gear is engaged and the clutch pedal is released, control is continued.

vectra

On my 3 octavias I had, the cruise would cut off once I press the clutch.
On my Passat it does not, It cuts off when I press the brake. They must have changed it for some reason.

kirving

There must be a reason behind it, maybe to do with how a person would get used to an adaptive system in the city? As in they can press the clutch and the system will still have a lock on the car in front, so the car will begin to move again and maintain distance? Maybe it's that kind of standardisation VW wanted across all variants of cruise control?

I still think though, that unless the car is auto, or has adaptive cruise, that the clutch should cut it off. Clutching is a significant driver input and it's reasonable to assume that a driver could hit the clutch instead of the brake in a panic.

mickdw

Kevin Irving wrote: »

There must be a reason behind it, maybe to do with how a person would get used to an adaptive system in the city? As in they can press the clutch and the system will still have a lock on the car in front, so the car will begin to move again and maintain distance? Maybe it's that kind of standardisation VW wanted across all variants of cruise control?

I still think though, that unless the car is auto, or has adaptive cruise, that the clutch should cut it off. Clutching is a significant driver input and it's reasonable to assume that a driver could hit the clutch instead of the brake in a panic.

My audi doesn't disengage when clutch is pressed. The revs drop allowing you to change gear and then it picks up the cruise again.

GustavoFring

What I think is the worst part of the set up is hitting the brake lights (and the usual messing behind you as a result) or taking your hand off the wheel a bit to knock it off manually. It knocking off when you clutch makes sense, it's rare that a car these days can't maintain a steady cruise in the appropriate gear.

fletch

Kevin Irving wrote: »

I still think though, that unless the car is auto, or has adaptive cruise, that the clutch should cut it off. Clutching is a significant driver input and it's reasonable to assume that a driver could hit the clutch instead of the brake in a panic.

Drive is still going to be lost though when the clutch is engaged though...I can see it being handy if you hit resume coming out of a town though so you can go up through the gears and the car will resume to it's preset speed? But yeh any cruise control I've used has disengaged as soon as the brake or clutch is touched.

mickdw

It's actually kind of cool in mine. You can select a speed of 20 mph when cruising at 70, the car will apply the brakes and brake lights while I change down all the while cruise bring active.

kirving

That's a cool feature, what car is it?